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#234178 - 01/10/14 03:41 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: "CLICK" at end of song. [Re: blackemmons]
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That may yield a clue, Ray.

Those experiencing the click might test it by changing to only Visual Countin and then see if the click is still there or not.


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#234208 - 01/10/14 09:54 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: "CLICK" at end of song. [Re: blackemmons]
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I haven't experienced it in BiaB, yet my instinct says 'buffer unload'.
Likely induced by driver/system combinations and hard to isolate. But that's just a guess.
Most likely my fault. wink

Buffer dump has been the issue the few times I *have* experienced this with RB. I've never seen it in BiaB though. Then again I spend much more time in RB than BiaB.
In RB I've seen it both at the end of songs and when I stop a song (before the end) and restart it right away. However, in these instances, I can usually track it back to an isolated FX plugin being used. The plugin gets stopped with it's buffer still holding data, and empties it suddenly. This may be another clue.

/Not isolated to a single plugin; seems to be a plugin/system combination event
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#234217 - 01/10/14 11:11 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: "CLICK" at end of song. [Re: Mac]
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Just tried a file with audible count-in. No extra click on C., C.., or C... Last measure works as it's supposed to. Later, Ray
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#234219 - 01/10/14 11:25 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: "CLICK" at end of song. [Re: blackemmons]
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Bob, it takes a big man to accept the blame even when you don't use the program much! I think we can let you off the hook on this one.

Question: if it is a buffer emptying, wouldn't that cause more randomly timed problems that what we hear, which for many is always at the same place: the first beat of what could be a count-in to the next chorus?
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#234220 - 01/10/14 11:27 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: "CLICK" at end of song. [Re: raymb1]
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I don't think it's at all related to shots or holds in the chord structure.

I find it doesn't do it predictably. It may not do it for several songs, and then it just starts doing it at the end of a song. Go back and play a previous one that played fine, and it does it on that now too.

It's related to the BiaB "Session" rather than the particular song. Shutdown Biab and restart, it may not do it again (for a while).
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#234226 - 01/10/14 11:55 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: "CLICK" at end of song. [Re: blackemmons]
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Trevor, that's an interesting hypothesis. Whenever I start BIAB, it stays on for hours. Next time I hear a click/bang, I will restart.
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#234442 - 01/12/14 05:17 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: "CLICK" at end of song. [Re: blackemmons]
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From what I can see, this issue is way out of my league and not unique to me. I just use the basics with BIAB. I will just set back and wait for more input and see if anything works. I'm old and not techy.

Most all the songs I do end with a one or two bar hold and then the off chord thing with a single dot. That's when it happens. Haven't tried any other ending.

I did seem to cure some of the slowness of loading and I think(hope) some of the workings slowness. I did as someone suggested. That being, telling my antivirus program to ignore the C:\bb folder.

Both of these problems were not an issue with my BIAB 2009 for some reason.

I really do appriciate the help.

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#234461 - 01/12/14 08:39 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: "CLICK" at end of song. [Re: blackemmons]
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After I read a whole bunch of related threads, I tried a couple of the suggestion and here are the results.

If I turn off the "Audible Lead-In" and just do a visual lead-in .............. no "click".

If I turn the "Audible Lead-In" back on and change the "Lead-In Type", I get whatever I change it to. For example, if I change it to "A Pattern Then Fill", I get the first beat of that pattern for the last "click/noise".

I guess that boils it down to a problem with the "Count-in/Met??

JimE

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