You need to be logged in to post
Options
Index
#242938 - 03/07/14 03:31 AM [User Showcase] Free Rider - Motorcycle Song
Registered: 05/23/10
Posts: 1651
Loc: New Zealand
RichMac Offline
Expert

Registered: 05/23/10
Posts: 1651
Loc: New Zealand
Got to revision no3. Backed off the vocal, cleaned up the beginning. I like it more now so thanks to all for the constructive comments.

Took the good advice offered by Herb, Floyd and Guenter and backed off on the effects.Thank you gentlemen. Yeah i got an old vinyl lp of Walter Brennan. Must find it and have another listen.

https://soundcloud.com/tuigorge/free-rider-2

https://soundcloud.com/tuigorge/free-rider

RD - Nashville classic waltz
Bass - RT 777
Guitars - RT 825, 823.
Midi trumpet

Free Rider

I dont want a harley or a honda
I dont want a chopper or trike
Just want some old wheels
and some takeaway meals
And the chance to move on with my life

It's a long time since I been on the road
Though I left you there so long a-go
It's time to start searchin
I cant say for certain
I think I'll just go with the flow

Got a ride and a bright starry sky over-head
I'm a long way from heaven and a long way from dead
I float through the night on this gun-metal steed
I cant see around corners but I can see all I need


I hear your soul calling me home
It's a long time since I left you a-lone
it cant be that far
to that bright shining star
And the place where I'll find you a-gain

I don't want to be a one percent outlaw
and I won't spend my time with the lost ninety nine
I Ride the wild highway seeking re-demption
In my own way and in my own time

Got a ride and a bright starry sky over-head
I'm a long way from heaven and a long way from dead
I float through the night on this gun-metal steed
I cant see around corners but I can see all I need
And I feel your sweet warmth in the night



Edited by RichMac (03/09/14 07:34 PM)
_________________________
https://soundcloud.com/tuigorge



Top
#242944 - 03/07/14 07:36 AM [User Showcase] Re: Free Rider - Motorcycle Song [Re: RichMac]
Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 6023
Guitarhacker Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 6023
Cool tune, kinda reminds me of some of the old country recordings by folks like Walter Brennen. I think he did some "talking" recordings.

On the sound effects.... generally when you use a sound effect, it is used sparingly. The motorcycle continued through the entire song. Unfortunately, an engine running at speed also has a pitch to it's sound and that "note" was droning in the background out of key to the song.

A better way to use the sound effect would be to have let it run by itself for 5 to 8 seconds as the bike cranks and gets going. Then start a fairly rapid fade as the song starts so that 3 seconds into the music the bike is gone on down the road. Now, the listeners are focused on the song. I found myself distracted by the sound of the bike all the way through..... then somewhere in the song, the bike cranks again....

Use sound effects in songs like salt. A pinch in the right place is all you need.

Cool tune that as a rider, I can relate to.
_________________________
You can find my music at:
www.herbhartley.com

Add nothing that adds nothing to the music

Top
#242960 - 03/07/14 08:43 AM [User Showcase] Re: Free Rider - Motorcycle Song [Re: RichMac]
Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 6479
Loc: Florida
floyd jane Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 6479
Loc: Florida
Richard,

A very well written piece. And well delivered. Good points from Herb, the effect is overdone. At the beginning and end would be enough - you might have it pop up between verses for a moment and then fade again.

Not sure how you might accomplish it, but it would be cool if you could have a group (choir-like) singing behind you on the last chorus.
It's the weekend - gather your friends - have 'em all bring a bottle - no telling where that might lead...

This is a very enjoyable listen.

floyd
_________________________
125+ BIAB Songs

Top
#242979 - 03/07/14 10:02 AM [User Showcase] Re: Free Rider - Motorcycle Song [Re: RichMac]
Registered: 06/22/12
Posts: 2868
Loc: Karlsruhe, Germany
boehm Offline
Veteran

Registered: 06/22/12
Posts: 2868
Loc: Karlsruhe, Germany
Hi Richard,

this could be a cool song if you take
the above advice. Then this would be
an enjoyable listen.
Neat lyrics.

Guenter
_________________________
http://www.21d.de/
Latest Song: What You Desire

Top
#243027 - 03/07/14 05:05 PM [User Showcase] Re: Free Rider - Motorcycle Song [Re: RichMac]
Registered: 02/11/05
Posts: 2646
Loc: Kentucky
PgFantastic Offline
Veteran

Registered: 02/11/05
Posts: 2646
Loc: Kentucky
like the line gun metal steed, Like the motorcycle sound effect at the end; thanks for sharing!
_________________________
My Tunes

Psalm 57:7 My heart, O God, is steadfast, my heart is steadfast; I will sing and make music.

Top
#243157 - 03/08/14 03:34 PM [User Showcase] Re: Free Rider - Motorcycle Song [Re: PgFantastic]
Registered: 05/23/10
Posts: 1651
Loc: New Zealand
RichMac Offline
Expert

Registered: 05/23/10
Posts: 1651
Loc: New Zealand
PGfantastic. Thanks for listening and the comment Robert. Cheers.
_________________________
https://soundcloud.com/tuigorge



Top
#243167 - 03/08/14 05:09 PM [User Showcase] Re: Free Rider - Motorcycle Song [Re: RichMac]
Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 6451
Loc: GA USA
Janice & Bud Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 6451
Loc: GA USA
"I float through the night on this gun-metal steed
I cant see around corners but I can see all I need"

That alone is worth the listen! You can spend way too much time trying to see around those corners. Cool idea and production. Enjoyed it.
_________________________
Never grow up...it's a trap.
Our 2018 album release
J&B YouTube Sampler
J&B Website

Top
#243201 - 03/09/14 04:11 AM [User Showcase] Re: Free Rider - Motorcycle Song [Re: RichMac]
Registered: 05/23/10
Posts: 1651
Loc: New Zealand
RichMac Offline
Expert

Registered: 05/23/10
Posts: 1651
Loc: New Zealand
Janice and Bud thanks for listening and for your great comment! Cheers.
_________________________
https://soundcloud.com/tuigorge



Top
#243211 - 03/09/14 09:23 AM [User Showcase] Re: Free Rider - Motorcycle Song [Re: RichMac]
Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 6023
Guitarhacker Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 6023
There you go... much better since it was edited.

One small suggestion remains. The vox seem to jump in very abruptly. It almost sounds like something was chopped off to my ears. I would add a short acoustic guitar chord turn around before the vox comes in to make it flow more naturally.

It sounds like you're saying "But I don't want a harley or a honda." at the very beginning. Edit/remove the "but" and that may work just fine.

this is just a suggestion, my 2 cents as it were....

The song is definitely getting better with the edits you have made.


Edited by Guitarhacker (03/09/14 09:23 AM)
_________________________
You can find my music at:
www.herbhartley.com

Add nothing that adds nothing to the music

Top
#243235 - 03/09/14 12:26 PM [User Showcase] Re: Free Rider - Motorcycle Song [Re: RichMac]
Registered: 12/27/03
Posts: 11618
Loc: Hamlin NY
MarioD Online   content
Veteran

Registered: 12/27/03
Posts: 11618
Loc: Hamlin NY
Much better!

I agree with Herb about the vocal. I also think that maybe the vocal is a tad too loud, but again that just could be me.
_________________________
Politicians, like diapers, occasionally need to be changed. Usually for the same reason!

64 bit Win 10 Pro - the latest BiaB and RB - Roland Octa-Capture audio interface - a ton of software and some hardware.

Top
#243264 - 03/09/14 04:38 PM [User Showcase] Re: Free Rider - Motorcycle Song [Re: RichMac]
Registered: 12/21/13
Posts: 4421
Loc: Davis, CA
Greg Johnson Online   content
Veteran

Registered: 12/21/13
Posts: 4421
Loc: Davis, CA
Got a ride and a bright starry sky over-head
I'm a long way from heaven and a long way from dead
I float through the night on this gun-metal steed
I cant see around corners but I can see all I need

Great verse!!! A very cool listen!! Keep it up. Take care. Greg

Top
#243461 - 03/10/14 08:00 PM [User Showcase] Re: Free Rider - Motorcycle Song [Re: RichMac]
Registered: 05/23/10
Posts: 1651
Loc: New Zealand
RichMac Offline
Expert

Registered: 05/23/10
Posts: 1651
Loc: New Zealand
Thanks Greg. This turned into quite a community effort. Have incorporated all the suggestions I could and am pleased with the result. Cheers.
_________________________
https://soundcloud.com/tuigorge



Top
#243508 - 03/11/14 08:13 AM [User Showcase] Re: Free Rider - Motorcycle Song [Re: RichMac]
Registered: 05/22/11
Posts: 2876
Loc: Florida
tommyad Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/22/11
Posts: 2876
Loc: Florida
Richard, I like the lyrics. The suggestions are definitely making it a better song. Thanks for posting and listening to some of the comments and then taking the time to make the changes. Well done. Tom

Top
#243509 - 03/11/14 08:17 AM [User Showcase] Re: Free Rider - Motorcycle Song [Re: RichMac]
Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 6023
Guitarhacker Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 6023
Yup... the beginning is better now.

It's amazing how a few simple fixes can improve the song so much.

Good job.
_________________________
You can find my music at:
www.herbhartley.com

Add nothing that adds nothing to the music

Top
#243618 - 03/12/14 04:16 AM [User Showcase] Re: Free Rider - Motorcycle Song [Re: RichMac]
Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 14134
Loc: Australia
Noel96 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 14134
Loc: Australia
Hey Richard,

This is absolutely terrific. It's inventive, incredibly involving and the uniqueness of the lyrics really make it stand out. Like Greg, the verse about the "gun metal steed" appealed to me.

If you ever you revisit the lyrics, one thing that I'd try is to put them into first person narrative. Change the "you" to "her" and "she". It would be interesting to hear how it sounds.

I'm heading back for another listen now. Great stuff!!!

All the best,
Noel
_________________________
LINKS TO MY BIAB/RB SONGS


Top
#243777 - 03/12/14 11:21 PM [User Showcase] Re: Free Rider - Motorcycle Song [Re: RichMac]
Registered: 05/23/10
Posts: 1651
Loc: New Zealand
RichMac Offline
Expert

Registered: 05/23/10
Posts: 1651
Loc: New Zealand
Thanks Noel your comments are appreciated. And anyone who took the time to listen and or comment. I have enjoyed the interaction. Cheers.
_________________________
https://soundcloud.com/tuigorge



Top
#243780 - 03/12/14 11:31 PM [User Showcase] Re: Free Rider - Motorcycle Song [Re: RichMac]
Registered: 12/29/12
Posts: 3573
Loc: Alabama, USA
Al-David Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/29/12
Posts: 3573
Loc: Alabama, USA
Hi Richard...

We're listening to this after all the edits. As is, sounds pretty danged good to us. We're not bikers, never were...but we really enjoyed the song!

We think it's fabulous when the community comes together to offer suggestions that might make a song even better...but it only works when the composer acts on the ideas he'she thinks would improve the song. It seems you have done just that. Congrats on a great song and a great attitude about the process. best to you.

Al & Di
_________________________
BIAB 2018 Ultra Plus-all StylePaks*Win10*8GB DDR4*I5-6th Gen*AT 2035 Mic*Peavey Nashville 112 Amp*Ibanez ART120 Electric/Washburn D200S Acoustic*Stromberg Monterey Jazz Guitar

Loops: https://aldavidmusic.wixsite.com/bestmusicloops


Top
#244226 - 03/16/14 09:03 AM [User Showcase] Re: Free Rider - Motorcycle Song [Re: Janice & Bud]
Registered: 12/13/13
Posts: 665
olemon Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 12/13/13
Posts: 665
Originally Posted By: Janice & Bud
"I float through the night on this gun-metal steed
I cant see around corners but I can see all I need"

That alone is worth the listen!



+1 on that, which is just one example of the golden lyrical nuggets in this song.

Top


PG Music News
Notation Enhancements in Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows!

There are Notation Enhancements in the NEW Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows! These include:
•A new button in the Print Options dialog which lets you quickly print a "chords only" fake sheet. You can also access this from the right-click menu on the chord sheet.
•A new track type (Drums) is now available for The Melody and Soloist tracks.
•Clicking close to a stave line will put a note on the stave line instead of between stave lines. (Previously, you had to click extremely close to a stave line to insert a note on The line.)
•Double-clicking on the Standard mode Notation window (or on the time line in Editable or Staff Roll mode) plays the song from the current time location. Previously, it played the song from the beginning of the current bar.
•Holding down the [Ctrl] key and pressing the zoom in/out buttons results in finest possible incremental adjustment in size.
•In The Notation Windows Options dialog, The clefs split point asterisk indicates that C5* is middle C.
•Pressing The space bar plays the song from the current time location, not the current bar.
•The clefs split point can be set by the spin controls.
•The right-click menu in the Editable or Staff Roll mode Notation window has an option to change the current beat resolution. Previously, the only way to do this was to right-click on the time line.
•There's a keystroke entry notation mode - the 'N' mode, which lets you enter a melody entirely using keystrokes. The keystrokes are N to enter a note, up/down cursor to change its pitch, and left/right cursor to move the time line.
•You can now edit any track in the Event List Editor. When The dialog opens, it will show you the MIDI data in the current Notation track.
•You can quickly enter forced accidentals from the right-click menu.

We talk about these new features within our Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows®! New Features, RealTracks, and other content! video:
25:45 - New Features: Easy Entering of Notation with the 'N' Key
36:48 - Change Beat Resolution From the Right-Click Menu
37:15 - Easier Entry of Notes on Lines
37:42 - Asterisk to Indicate Middle C on & Spin Controls
37:53 - Force Accidental from the Right-Click Menu
38:01 - Edit Any Track in the Event List
38:09 - Keystroke Note Entry Mode 'N' for Faster Note Entry
38:28 - Print Chords Only Fake Sheet
38:32 - More Control of Notation Size

Rather read about it?
-Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows® Upgrade Manual
-New Feature Summary - Notation Enhancements

The New Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows SongPicker!

With Band-in-a-Box® 2019, the SongPicker has been redesigned!
-The completely redesigned window shows information for up to 50,000 songs.
-The song list build is much faster. Approximately 150 songs get added per second.
-A progress bar will appear if the song list build takes longer than 3 seconds.
-You can see the chord progression for the selected song in the list. You can copy and paste it to a text file.
-Many filters are available. You can filter the list by subfolders, genre, feel, time signature, style, songs with melody, soloist, lyrics, key signature, tempo range, and the year of file dates.
-You can search songs that have similar chord progressions and/or melody fragments.
-Hotkey! ss+enter opens the SongPicker, ss2+enter opens the Recently Played Songs, etc.

Learn more about the updates with our New Features Video - we've made it easy to find the section you'll need:
2:55 - New Feature: Redesigned SongPicker
21:58 - New Features: SongPicker Enhancements
41:10 - Now Over 10,600 Titles in SongPicker

You can also read all about the new SongPicker within our Online Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows® Upgrade Manual.

RealBand 2019 Online and PDF Manuals Available!

Visit our Online Manuals support page for access to the latest RealBand 2019 for Windows program manuals!

RealBand 2019 for Windows User's Guide: Online Manual | PDF Download
RealBand 2019 for Windows New Features Guide: Online Manual | PDF Download

RealBand 2019 is included in every purchase of Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows! We're having a SALE on Band-in-a-Box® 2019 Upgrade purchases until December 31, 2018 - save over 40% when you purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows Upgrade! Check out our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available

Band-in-a-Box® 2019 Online and PDF Manuals Available!

Visit our Online Manuals support page for access to the latest Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows program manuals!

Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows User's Guide: Online Manual | PDF Download
Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows Upgrade Manual: Online Manual | PDF Download

Don't forget.... We're having a SALE on Band-in-a-Box® 2019 Upgrade purchases until December 31, 2018 - save over 40% when you purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows Upgrade! Check out our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available

Band-in-a-Box® 2019 on a USB 3.0 Hard Drive - Speed Thrills!

We're excited to say that all Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows UltraPAK and UltraPAK+ orders now ship on a USB 3.0 hard drive!

What does this mean? Faster hard drive transfer rates will enhance the program operations (faster time to generate tracks, reduced audio artifacts) and offer faster transfer speeds (typically up to 3x faster)!

It's a great time to order your UltraPAK or UltraPAK+ Upgrade... they're ON SALE until December 31st!

Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows® New Features!

Our "Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows®! New Features, RealTracks, and other content!" video is now ready! Get to know all about the newest features in Band-in-a-Box® 2019: Click here to watch...

We have listed a table of contents for this video, you'll see it within the YouTube video description, or by visiting this forum post.

RealBand 2019 - A New Look!

Have you opened up your RealBand 2019 yet? You may notice that we've given it a fresh new look! In fact, there are now 3 different looks to RealBand.

See for yourself! Within the program, visit Options | Icon Set and choose from: Classic, Modern 1, or Modern 2.

Forum Stats
28456 Members
58 Forums
55313 Topics
460820 Posts

Max Online: 2434 @ 11/14/17 12:37 AM
Newest Members
nobby, jeM, Masaladosa, jonny1, rikkyj

28455 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
Matt Finley 384
Pipeline 346
Noel96 274
jford 261
VideoTrack 241
PeterGannon 208
Al-David 173
fiddler2007 138
Jim Fogle 125
dcuny 119
Today's Birthdays
dreadmon, Jazzer_Phil, SteelScott