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Noel,
They are closed... Oh well, bright eyed and bushy tailed tomorrow...
How are we supposed to sleep on this side of the date-line.
Me thinks there is a lot there..
Thanks from down under.
After the fact of reviewing... UserTracks are and will be part of the new
system. Was relieved to see/read this.
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"Countdown to 1, right?" - Clint Eastwood, Space Cowboys.
You will be very pleased with BIAB 2015.
BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
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Its here !!!!
I just pulled the trigger!
Early Christmas present for me ..
(Even if its only November here still!)
Now for the wait and the song and dance to get it trhough customs .....
I'm doing allright for Country Trash ....
I used to care, but things have changed (Bob Dylan)
BIAB 2022W + RB
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Epiphone Sheraton, Ibanez 12str, Washburn 6str, Cort 6Str Nylon
Yanagisawa Tenor Sax
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Ditto on the trigger Pull.
After a lot of years...their online system allowed me to get
my login corrected.
Ultra+pak and $49 bonus +HD ship.
I already have jbridge from another source.
May need update tho.
Just talked with my wife about 30 minutes ago.
She was still in bed.
She is very very weak about getting up.
Said "How about if we don't shop today?"
"Answer YA good idea". So methinks today is 2015 day....
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Frank, maybe you could arrange for her to become sick on call at this time every year. Gives you all day to play with BIAB. (kidding!)
BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
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Matt,
Its also a rainy day, and will be for next 5 or 6...
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I'm patiently but eagerly waiting for only ONE feature for the 2015 version of BIAB: 64-bit. That's it! Period. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge, say no mo'!  Yes indeed. I have to reply of course. I'm tired of all the comments that 32 bit software is all that is needed by most people. That simply is not the case. My opinion is that 64 bit is needed .... It isn't a NEW idea. It is long overdue and is the only logical progression for Band In A Box and Real Band. The reasons for going ahead far outweigh the excuses for not going ahead with this much needed improvement. Mal    I have been down the Jbridge route with Cubase. Its a decent app but its not the same as 64 bit, as usual PG has cobbled something together, and bloated the improvements "email songs as attachments". The program needs a rewrite. We are still in the dark ages. I have never got a lot of this program working. For instance the Notation is unuseable as the pages don't scroll properly. I know the notation is 'improved', but will it actually work? If I could buy the real tracks only I would and would not bother with this update. In fact I don't think I am going to buy it. 64 bit - simple. Z
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Why anyone would want to use a 64 bit piece of software in a 32 bit environment is beyond all reason. It simply does not make sense.
I have used jBridge for years, only to take advantage of a good vst that was still 32 bit and take advantage of it in a 64 bit environment.
If some of you want to use Sampletank 3 in BB using jBridge it will not work. I've tried and it does not work using jBridge.
No 64 bit Band In A Box this year either ....... makes me rather depressed again.
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Mal, I guess it's simply the number of folks who really care about it is pretty small so it's not worth it to spend the considerable resources for a complete rewrite. If and when it hits a tipping point (20-40% maybe?) then they'll do it.
Bob
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If some of you want to use Sampletank 3 in BB using jBridge it will not work. I've tried and it does not work using jBridge. I'm not saying this is true or not, but it's a bit early to judge PGMusic's implementation. "We’ve added direct support for 64-bit VST plugins (using jBridge available from us for only $10 during the special)" Note; 'direct support' .. gotta believe something has changed here.
Make your sound your own!
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Mal, you need to make sure you upgrade to jBridge 1.7b2 for it to work with BIAB. Version 1.6 won't work. I don't have ST3 yet, but it works with Kontakt 64-bit and Halion 64-bit.
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Make your sound your own!
.. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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jBridge 1.65c is the current version.
I know jBridge beta update ( 1.7 beta 3 ) is available, havn't tried it yet.
Are you saying the beta version of jBridge would enable Sampletank 64 bit as a 32 bit in BB? Even if it did, why would anyone want to?
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Sorry Bob ...... Totally disagree.
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jBridge 1.65c is the current version.
I know jBridge beta update ( 1.7 beta 3 ) is available, havn't tried it yet.
Are you saying the beta version of jBridge would enable Sampletank 64 bit as a 32 bit in BB? Even if it did, why would anyone want to? from JBridge - "Using inter-process communication mechanisms, it aims to make it possible to run 32bit plugins in 64bit hosts, 64bit plugins in 32bit hosts, or even bridging 32bit plugins to 32bit hosts, allowing to overcome the memory limitations of a single 32bit process, in this last case." I don't think it enables a 64 bit plugin to run AS a 32 bit, but rather allows bridging a 64 bit plugin to the 32bit app. I look forward to more reports. John said he can use 64 bit synths in BB. I trust his appraisal. I'm waiting for the official PGMusic JBridge release to get it from them so I know I have the version they now directly support.
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Yes, once I installed the beta version, BIAB loaded the 64-bit VSTi's (after first removing the corresponding 32-bit ones.
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Downloading problems? http://www.pgmusic.com/salesfaq1.htm#downloading_pcAlso from PG: If you opt to reinstall from downloads, you will first want to delete the corrupted files, clear your browser history and cashed internet files, and then download again from the links below.
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The point is ...... "For a 32-bit application launched in a 32-bit Windows, the total size of all the data types must not exceed 2 Gbytes. (Actually it is 1.75 Gbytes due to memory requirements of the operating system itself). A 32-bit program compiled with the switch /LARGEADDRESSAWARE:YES can allocate up to 3 Gbytes of memory if the 32-bit Windows is launched with the /3gb switch. The same 32-bit program launched in a 64-bit system can allocate about 4 Gbytes (actually about 3.5 Gbytes)." You will always be restricted in a 32 bit environment. I have 24 gig of installed physical memory and enjoy using it with as many vst's needed for a production. So even if 64 bit vst's are used in BB using a bridge, there will still be a memory limitation, therefore, a limitation on the amount of vst's being used. If my memory serves me well.  
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I have used J bridge since its very inception. Be aware that JBridge uses 'wrapper' technology, this means that you must have two versions of your Dll file, the original and the 'wrapped'. When I first set this up it meant that my plugin folder in Cubase showed two versions of each in the instrument track view, there are workarounds.
Cubase and other programs have all come a long way since then, the original Steinberg bridge was hopeless, but the recent one does a better job. JBridge does a better job of installing.
When I last tried I could hardly open any VST in BIAB, the few I had in 32 bit, simply bounced out of the virtual rack.
I find it worrying that PG will now depend on programming which is not under their control.
There are some nice things in this update, tweaks and some claims for 'new' when the old did it anyway. Geez, a banjo can even be called a banjo - how ground breaking is that! However, the RealTracks alone are worth the price, its so sad to see that PG is still not able to utilise 64 bit tech when its been with us for a long while - Windows became sixty four bit thirteen years ago.
I feel like I am afloat on a raft, some of the raft is composed of old bits of tyres and old machinery, most of the keel, then on the top deck are some cutting edge technologies that can be found nowhere else along with some old stuff covered in dust. Lots of things on the raft are cobbled together, and perform in odd ways, the raft kinda works, well enough to do some basics, and it even support some very fantastic functions, but is it 21 century?
Some of the things in the update are noteworthy the ability to play loops may bring in a new audience - hopefully, if they can live with the rest of the program.
what's it's future if it stays like this... lets say its X
And if it truly meets the challenge of real up to date 64 bit redesign, well I think that sales will go through the roof X+++.
Even so its good to get some really great real tracks - that for me is a big tempter
Z
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Like the analogy ZeroZero.
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Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
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Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
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