Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >
You need to be logged in to post
Options
Index
#282608 - 01/30/15 06:53 AM [User Showcase] This Town Ain't Big Enough
Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 6479
Loc: Florida
floyd jane Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 6479
Loc: Florida
Sometimes a heartache is too big to hide from...


THIS TOWN AIN'T BIG ENOUGH

i hear montana is pretty this time of year
i ain't been to vegas for a while, so i might head there
the south of france or katmandu
if there's no chance i'll run into you

   this town ain't big enough, baby
   big enough for you and me
   all this small talk's driving me crazy
   i can't hide from what we used to be
   around every corner, in ev'ry face i meet
   in ev'ry cobblestone of every street
   this town's overcrowded with memories
   so, this town ain't big enough for you and me

it ain't easy watching you run around town
i know it's over, my heart needs to break some new ground
just when i think i'm strong
you walk by and you prove me wrong

   this town ain't big enough, baby
   big enough for you and me
   all this small talk's driving me crazy
   i can't hide from what we used to be
   around every corner, in ev'ry face i meet
   in ev'ry cobblestone of every street
   this town's overcrowded with memories
   so, this town ain't big enough for you and me

if we could cut it down the middle, divide it with a fence
maybe my heart would stand half a chance...

   this town ain't big enough, baby
   big enough for you and me
   all this small talk's driving me crazy
   i can't hide from what we used to be
   around every corner, in ev'ry face i meet
   in ev'ry cobblestone of every street
   this town's overcrowded with memories
   so, this town ain't big enough for you and me


Here is the Band...

Style is _MANPMGA.STY (PopCountry Ballad Mandolin[75RS])

RealTracks in style: 1827:Bass, Electric, PopModernGrooveA-B Ev16 075
RealTracks in style: 1839:Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm PopModernGrooveA-B Ev16 075
RealTracks in style: 1596:Guitar, Acoustic, Strumming Pop16ths Ev16 065
RealTracks in style: 1947:Mandolin, Rhythm PopModernGrooveAndy Ev16 075
RealTracks in song: 1705:Guitar, Electric, Soloist CountryBrent Ev 085
RealTracks in song: 1829:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PopModernGrooveBrightArp Ev16 075
RealTracks in song: 1762:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm Pop16thsArp Ev16 085
RealTracks in song: 861:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm HardRockWaltzSustainHeld Ev 140
RealDrums in style: PopModernGrooveSync16 (fills only)


Hope you enjoy it. But, either way, comments encouraged..
Thanks for listening.
Band-In-A-Box.... the true modern miracle...

floyd
_________________________
125+ BIAB Songs

Top
#282610 - 01/30/15 07:09 AM [User Showcase] Re: This Town Ain't Big Enough [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 6023
Guitarhacker Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 6023
Another good-un...

Good imagery in the lyrics... Well done on the musical front as well.

No major nits that I could hear on a first listen.... a few...I would have produced this or that differently but nothing that detracts from the production you did...


Real pretty the way you started it.


Excellent song.
_________________________
You can find my music at:
www.herbhartley.com

Add nothing that adds nothing to the music

Top
#282625 - 01/30/15 11:30 AM [User Showcase] Re: This Town Ain't Big Enough [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 12/21/13
Posts: 4421
Loc: Davis, CA
Greg Johnson Online   content
Veteran

Registered: 12/21/13
Posts: 4421
Loc: Davis, CA
if we could cut it down the middle, divide it with a fence
maybe my heart would stand half a chance...


As much as I loved the song through and through (AND I DID), this is one of the best bridges I've ever heard....short, concise, great alternative angle on the theme...Brilliant!
The rest of the song is excellent as well. We've all experienced that painful reality of having to be around someone who still turns your world upside down in a town, a team, a class, a workplace, whatever. This song perfectly taps into that painful emotion. Beautifully crafted lyric and flawless use of "the band" to bring the song to life. Another home run Floyd!! Take care. Greg

Top
#282627 - 01/30/15 11:32 AM [User Showcase] Re: This Town Ain't Big Enough [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 02/11/10
Posts: 534
Loc: Grand Junction, Colorado USA
Achordocaster Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 02/11/10
Posts: 534
Loc: Grand Junction, Colorado USA
Floyd,

Another excellent job! Your a machine man.

A good song, good vocals, good production. The drums are happenin'! (great snare sound)... and I'm good with that, but maybe a little more reverb on them wouldn't hurt. I'd say just on the snare, but I know that's not an option. Just my $.02 grin

Greg

Top
#282631 - 01/30/15 12:57 PM [User Showcase] Re: This Town Ain't Big Enough [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 04/07/13
Posts: 4720
Loc: South Carolina
Charlie Fogle Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/07/13
Posts: 4720
Loc: South Carolina
Excellent song, excellent writing, great selection of real tracks - the mandolin worked quite well in your mixture of instruments. Your production was crisp.

Another good song.

Musically, "i know it's over, my heart needs to break some new ground" the phrasing of 'neeeeeeeeeeeeew'seemed a bit awkward in relation to the rest of the lyrics. Having a nit over the phrasing of a single word is really saying, there aren't really any nits to fret over.

Good job and I enjoyed the listen.

Charlie


Edited by c_fogle (01/30/15 12:57 PM)
_________________________
BiaB Ultra Pak 2019:RB 2019 Build 2. Windows-7, 64 bit, Home Premium Version with an AMD Athlon II X2 215 Dual-Core Processor and 4GB DDR3 Memory.

Top
#282634 - 01/30/15 01:03 PM [User Showcase] Re: This Town Ain't Big Enough [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 05/02/14
Posts: 3156
Loc: The Netherlands
RnAM Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/02/14
Posts: 3156
Loc: The Netherlands
Great song Floyd!!!
Music, vocals, everything.
Fascinating from the beginning to the end.

Rob and Anne-Marie
_________________________
We are Rob Meulman and Anne-Marie Bovenkamp from The Netherlands.

RnAM Homepage (completely restyled)
YouTube Channel

Top
#282635 - 01/30/15 01:09 PM [User Showcase] Re: This Town Ain't Big Enough [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 12/08/09
Posts: 213
Loc: California
Carolyne Offline
Apprentice

Registered: 12/08/09
Posts: 213
Loc: California
Great tune. Absolutely love the lyric!
-Carolyne

Top
#282639 - 01/30/15 01:27 PM [User Showcase] Re: This Town Ain't Big Enough [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 05/23/10
Posts: 1651
Loc: New Zealand
RichMac Offline
Expert

Registered: 05/23/10
Posts: 1651
Loc: New Zealand
Hey Floyd.
Usual top notch production.
Really liked the vocal phrasing, the bridge and key change.
The last couple of bars sound very harsh to me.
Is that deliberate?
Cheers.
_________________________
https://soundcloud.com/tuigorge



Top
#282667 - 01/30/15 04:24 PM [User Showcase] Re: This Town Ain't Big Enough [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 12/12/11
Posts: 2619
Loc: York, England
ROG Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/12/11
Posts: 2619
Loc: York, England
Hi Floyd.

I really do like it when a bit of "Rock" gets mixed into your songs and there's absolutely nothing in this which I didn't like. Everything is up to your usual high standard of professionalism.

Maybe a solo would have been nice? It's such a good track to solo over, I found myself desperately wanting to put one in!

Still a great track though.

ROG.


Top
#282672 - 01/30/15 05:20 PM [User Showcase] Re: This Town Ain't Big Enough [Re: ROG]
Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 6023
Guitarhacker Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 6023
Originally Posted By: ROG


Maybe a solo would have been nice? It's such a good track to solo over, I found myself desperately wanting to put one in!



Yup.... my thoughts exactly.... coulda laid one down for you bro.....
_________________________
You can find my music at:
www.herbhartley.com

Add nothing that adds nothing to the music

Top
#282675 - 01/30/15 05:29 PM [User Showcase] Re: This Town Ain't Big Enough [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 14134
Loc: Australia
Noel96 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 14134
Loc: Australia
Hi floyd,

This sounds as professional as anything I've heard that's come out of demo studios in Nashville. It's radio material through and through – brilliant writing, brilliant singing, brilliant production.

There's nothing quite like the discreet use of hyperbole to raise the bar of emotional intensity in lyrics.

  • According to here on Wikipedia, hyperbole is defined as "the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech. It may be used to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, but is not meant to be taken literally.”

An example that springs to mind (where exaggeration has been used to boost lyric intensity) is Fred Ebb's B-section for “New York, New York”.

Originally Posted By: ”Fred Ebb”
I want to wake up in a city
That doesn't sleep
And find I'm king of the hill
Top of the heap

Being "King of the hill" and "Top of the heap" strikes me as hyperbole. Fred then revisits this and gives it a vitamin shot by (a) repeating it and (b) exaggerating it even further saying …

Originally Posted By: ”Fred Ebb”
New York, New York
I want to wake up in a city
That never sleeps
And find I'm "A" number one
Top of the list
King of the hill
"A" number one

Liza Minnellli shows the nuclear power of hyperbole when she performs Ebb's words at this concert. She also uses the repetition and further exaggeration to set up a megaton performance explosion into what can only be described as a Mt Everest of finishes.

Personally, I find hyperbole a powerful songwriting tool and I always keep it in mind as a lyric development device. For this reason, I tend to use it later in a song's lyrics: often verse 2 or the bridge.

You've employed it way up front in the chorus! It's never occurred to me to do that. To my ears, your use of it was very effective. I thought that using the exaggeration of...

  • around every corner, on ev'ry face i meet
    on ev'ry cobblestone of every street

...was a very skilful way of showing us just how much this woman was inside the head of this guy and how this has trapped him in a web of misery that's pretty much impossible for him to escape from. It set-up the phrase "over-crowded memories" perfectly! The lyric sequence worked for me smile

Really, really terrific songwriting.

More please!
Noel

P.S. Great key change!

P.P.S. I've just seen that David Cuny also talks about "cobblestones" from a different perspective. It's good to have multiple views on things!
_________________________
LINKS TO MY BIAB/RB SONGS


Top
#282699 - 01/30/15 08:57 PM [User Showcase] Re: This Town Ain't Big Enough [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 2544
Loc: Sacramento, California
dcuny Offline
Veteran

Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 2544
Loc: Sacramento, California
Hi, floyd!

First of all, great execution (as usual). Great singing, production, clever lyrics...

My only issue is the song is a bit too clever in spots. I can overlook "small talk", but "cobblestones" breaks the fourth wall completely.

That said, I particularly like:

if we could cut it down the middle, divide it with a fence
maybe my heart would stand half a chance...


smile
_________________________
-- David Cuny
My virtual singer development blog

Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?

Top
#282742 - 01/31/15 06:26 AM [User Showcase] Re: This Town Ain't Big Enough [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 06/22/12
Posts: 2868
Loc: Karlsruhe, Germany
boehm Offline
Veteran

Registered: 06/22/12
Posts: 2868
Loc: Karlsruhe, Germany
Hi Floyd,

great song again!
Lyrics, music, vocals, everything the usual high standard.
Have I already mentioned that I'm a fan?

Guenter
_________________________
http://www.21d.de/
Latest Song: What You Desire

Top
#282744 - 01/31/15 06:36 AM [User Showcase] Re: This Town Ain't Big Enough [Re: Greg Johnson]
Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 6479
Loc: Florida
floyd jane Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 6479
Loc: Florida
Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker
Another good-un...

Good imagery in the lyrics... Well done on the musical front as well.

No major nits that I could hear on a first listen.... a few...I would have produced this or that differently but nothing that detracts from the production you did...

Real pretty the way you started it.

Excellent song.

Thanks for the listen, Herb.


Originally Posted By: Greg Johnson
if we could cut it down the middle, divide it with a fence
maybe my heart would stand half a chance...


As much as I loved the song through and through (AND I DID), this is one of the best bridges I've ever heard....short, concise, great alternative angle on the theme...Brilliant!
The rest of the song is excellent as well. We've all experienced that painful reality of having to be around someone who still turns your world upside down in a town, a team, a class, a workplace, whatever. This song perfectly taps into that painful emotion. Beautifully crafted lyric and flawless use of "the band" to bring the song to life. Another home run Floyd!! Take care. Greg

Greg - I know you are a real student of songwriting - so coming from you, that is especially nice to hear... (really looking forward to your next..)
_________________________
125+ BIAB Songs

Top
#282747 - 01/31/15 06:46 AM [User Showcase] Re: This Town Ain't Big Enough [Re: Achordocaster]
Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 6479
Loc: Florida
floyd jane Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 6479
Loc: Florida
Originally Posted By: Achordocaster
Floyd,

Another excellent job! Your a machine man.

A good song, good vocals, good production. The drums are happenin'! (great snare sound)... and I'm good with that, but maybe a little more reverb on them wouldn't hurt. I'd say just on the snare, but I know that's not an option. Just my $.02 grin

Greg

Thanks, Greg... In fact, adding reverb to just the snare, in this case, actually IS an option. I built the drum tracks on this - the snare is a separate track (as is the kick). If you listen closely, you should notice there is no hi-hat in this - that is how I wanted this to sound... if you look back at the RealDrum listed in the Band, I used only the fills from it.

As I'm sure you are aware, snare sounds are all over the map in country and pop. And it depends on the song what you might want for that sound. I'm very partial to a leathery snare - though for this one, I did apply some reverb to it.. if I have another go at this, I will try some adjustment to it to check that out..

Thanks for the listen.
_________________________
125+ BIAB Songs

Top
#282791 - 01/31/15 01:50 PM [User Showcase] Re: This Town Ain't Big Enough [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 04/20/10
Posts: 4794
Loc: Florida
90 dB Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/20/10
Posts: 4794
Loc: Florida
I like everything about this one. Once again, great use of BIAB.

"katmandu" - I loved that one!


Regards,

Bob
_________________________
Dyslectics Untie!


https://90dbband.bandcamp.com/

https://soundcloud.com/90-db



Top
#282793 - 01/31/15 02:03 PM [User Showcase] Re: This Town Ain't Big Enough [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 12/27/03
Posts: 11618
Loc: Hamlin NY
MarioD Online   content
Veteran

Registered: 12/27/03
Posts: 11618
Loc: Hamlin NY
I am also in the "I like everything about this song" crowd.

Not only are you an outstanding lyricist you are also an outstanding producer, singer, guitarist, mix engineer etc!.

This was perfect!
_________________________
Politicians, like diapers, occasionally need to be changed. Usually for the same reason!

64 bit Win 10 Pro - the latest BiaB and RB - Roland Octa-Capture audio interface - a ton of software and some hardware.

Top
#282857 - 01/31/15 10:45 PM [User Showcase] Re: This Town Ain't Big Enough [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 01/28/12
Posts: 2471
Loc: Murgon Queensland Australia
Rob4580 Online   content
Veteran

Registered: 01/28/12
Posts: 2471
Loc: Murgon Queensland Australia
A quintessential country song,
Perfect vocals love the chorus.

I can see this easily making airplay.
You also have a touch of Nickle back going on as well.

Id love to be able to write like this,
Spot On.
Rob

Top
#282883 - 02/01/15 02:24 AM [User Showcase] Re: This Town Ain't Big Enough [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 06/05/12
Posts: 8711
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
VideoTrack Online   content
Veteran

Registered: 06/05/12
Posts: 8711
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
Floyd

Another Masterpiece!

Sensational Lyrics
Sensational Melody
Sensational Build
Sensational Vocals
Sensational Mix

You've been working overtime on this, you must have.
Yes, you should put it up for air-play
This is another one of those 'really stand-out' songs on the User Showcase.

Great job Floyd.

Trevor
_________________________
BIAB&RB2019(Audiophile),Win-10Pro, SonarPlatinum, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, KorgX3R, RodeNGT2, AM802mixer, NS40M StudioMonitors, Pioneer Act. Mons, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Top
#282889 - 02/01/15 03:23 AM [User Showcase] Re: This Town Ain't Big Enough [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 01/26/05
Posts: 197
Loc: Denmark
stratos Offline
Apprentice

Registered: 01/26/05
Posts: 197
Loc: Denmark
Great voice. Thanks for sharing!

Top
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >


PG Music News
Notation Enhancements in Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows!

There are Notation Enhancements in the NEW Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows! These include:
•A new button in the Print Options dialog which lets you quickly print a "chords only" fake sheet. You can also access this from the right-click menu on the chord sheet.
•A new track type (Drums) is now available for The Melody and Soloist tracks.
•Clicking close to a stave line will put a note on the stave line instead of between stave lines. (Previously, you had to click extremely close to a stave line to insert a note on The line.)
•Double-clicking on the Standard mode Notation window (or on the time line in Editable or Staff Roll mode) plays the song from the current time location. Previously, it played the song from the beginning of the current bar.
•Holding down the [Ctrl] key and pressing the zoom in/out buttons results in finest possible incremental adjustment in size.
•In The Notation Windows Options dialog, The clefs split point asterisk indicates that C5* is middle C.
•Pressing The space bar plays the song from the current time location, not the current bar.
•The clefs split point can be set by the spin controls.
•The right-click menu in the Editable or Staff Roll mode Notation window has an option to change the current beat resolution. Previously, the only way to do this was to right-click on the time line.
•There's a keystroke entry notation mode - the 'N' mode, which lets you enter a melody entirely using keystrokes. The keystrokes are N to enter a note, up/down cursor to change its pitch, and left/right cursor to move the time line.
•You can now edit any track in the Event List Editor. When The dialog opens, it will show you the MIDI data in the current Notation track.
•You can quickly enter forced accidentals from the right-click menu.

We talk about these new features within our Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows®! New Features, RealTracks, and other content! video:
25:45 - New Features: Easy Entering of Notation with the 'N' Key
36:48 - Change Beat Resolution From the Right-Click Menu
37:15 - Easier Entry of Notes on Lines
37:42 - Asterisk to Indicate Middle C on & Spin Controls
37:53 - Force Accidental from the Right-Click Menu
38:01 - Edit Any Track in the Event List
38:09 - Keystroke Note Entry Mode 'N' for Faster Note Entry
38:28 - Print Chords Only Fake Sheet
38:32 - More Control of Notation Size

Rather read about it?
-Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows® Upgrade Manual
-New Feature Summary - Notation Enhancements

The New Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows SongPicker!

With Band-in-a-Box® 2019, the SongPicker has been redesigned!
-The completely redesigned window shows information for up to 50,000 songs.
-The song list build is much faster. Approximately 150 songs get added per second.
-A progress bar will appear if the song list build takes longer than 3 seconds.
-You can see the chord progression for the selected song in the list. You can copy and paste it to a text file.
-Many filters are available. You can filter the list by subfolders, genre, feel, time signature, style, songs with melody, soloist, lyrics, key signature, tempo range, and the year of file dates.
-You can search songs that have similar chord progressions and/or melody fragments.
-Hotkey! ss+enter opens the SongPicker, ss2+enter opens the Recently Played Songs, etc.

Learn more about the updates with our New Features Video - we've made it easy to find the section you'll need:
2:55 - New Feature: Redesigned SongPicker
21:58 - New Features: SongPicker Enhancements
41:10 - Now Over 10,600 Titles in SongPicker

You can also read all about the new SongPicker within our Online Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows® Upgrade Manual.

RealBand 2019 Online and PDF Manuals Available!

Visit our Online Manuals support page for access to the latest RealBand 2019 for Windows program manuals!

RealBand 2019 for Windows User's Guide: Online Manual | PDF Download
RealBand 2019 for Windows New Features Guide: Online Manual | PDF Download

RealBand 2019 is included in every purchase of Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows! We're having a SALE on Band-in-a-Box® 2019 Upgrade purchases until December 31, 2018 - save over 40% when you purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows Upgrade! Check out our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available

Band-in-a-Box® 2019 Online and PDF Manuals Available!

Visit our Online Manuals support page for access to the latest Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows program manuals!

Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows User's Guide: Online Manual | PDF Download
Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows Upgrade Manual: Online Manual | PDF Download

Don't forget.... We're having a SALE on Band-in-a-Box® 2019 Upgrade purchases until December 31, 2018 - save over 40% when you purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows Upgrade! Check out our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available

Band-in-a-Box® 2019 on a USB 3.0 Hard Drive - Speed Thrills!

We're excited to say that all Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows UltraPAK and UltraPAK+ orders now ship on a USB 3.0 hard drive!

What does this mean? Faster hard drive transfer rates will enhance the program operations (faster time to generate tracks, reduced audio artifacts) and offer faster transfer speeds (typically up to 3x faster)!

It's a great time to order your UltraPAK or UltraPAK+ Upgrade... they're ON SALE until December 31st!

Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows® New Features!

Our "Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows®! New Features, RealTracks, and other content!" video is now ready! Get to know all about the newest features in Band-in-a-Box® 2019: Click here to watch...

We have listed a table of contents for this video, you'll see it within the YouTube video description, or by visiting this forum post.

RealBand 2019 - A New Look!

Have you opened up your RealBand 2019 yet? You may notice that we've given it a fresh new look! In fact, there are now 3 different looks to RealBand.

See for yourself! Within the program, visit Options | Icon Set and choose from: Classic, Modern 1, or Modern 2.

Forum Stats
28456 Members
58 Forums
55313 Topics
460816 Posts

Max Online: 2434 @ 11/14/17 12:37 AM
Newest Members
nobby, jeM, Masaladosa, jonny1, rikkyj

28455 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
Matt Finley 382
Pipeline 346
Noel96 273
jford 261
VideoTrack 241
PeterGannon 208
Al-David 171
fiddler2007 138
Jim Fogle 125
dcuny 119
Today's Birthdays
dreadmon, Jazzer_Phil, SteelScott