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#287605 - 03/12/15 06:26 AM [User Showcase] Skipping
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https://soundcloud.com/lawrence-olivier/skipping

This is where my head was at musically back around 2000-2004. I wrote a few songs like this back then. Some of them have survived several computer crashes. And as I took this one from a back up file this February to dust off and remix my computer crashed!!!


So here it is finally. There are no BIAB tracks as the song has at least two meters in it and one of them is 7/8. It was a bear to mix and my (new) computer had trouble processing all of the data so there are some pops and clicks. The tracks were all written and played on my old Korg X3 then rendered with Sonar's Dimension synth.


I am very interested to know what musical influences you hear in this song.



Skipping

Will you be mine forevermore
We are souls like stones, skipping across the lakes of time
The hope we’ll find on distant shores
Roll your bones, funny how the days unwind

Past your prime, sharp decline
We are cliffs of stone sharing empty hearts of brine
You take yours, I’ll take mine
Let the pebbles dropped send ripples across the line

We are souls like stones
We are souls like stones

Be wary of the hearts you break
Ghost filled dreams will haunt you till the day you die
The souls you rend, the steps you take
Footfalls trace the path right back to your demon eyes

Past your prime, sharp decline
We are cliffs of stone sharing empty hearts of brine
You take yours, I’ll take mine
Let the pebbles dropped send ripples across the line

We are souls like stones
We are souls like stones
We are souls like stones
We are souls like stones

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#287609 - 03/12/15 06:40 AM [User Showcase] Re: Skipping [Re: gruverider]
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This is a nice piece of work. Excellent vocals all around on this one.

I'm sorry I can't provide any musical influences I hear because I didn't follow this genre in the past. I've been introduced to so many different genres since joining the BB forum that I would have never stopped on a radio station back in the day.

I like your song and performance.

Thanks for posting.


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#287620 - 03/12/15 07:39 AM [User Showcase] Re: Skipping [Re: gruverider]
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Hello Lawrence,

What a musical work!!!

I heard it on souncloud this morning, and I couldn't get an understanding on the meters. 7/8 I had discovered, but maybe a 6/8 at times? and/or a 4/4?

I listened several times to see a bit trough the song. Despite it's complexity it doesn't feel unnatural or forced. It shows your great musical capabilities and background. The mix is exellent!

Mmusical influences... I would say Genesis certainly, curious to what others are gonna add...

I enjoyed it thouroughly!

Fred


Edited by FredM (03/12/15 07:40 AM)

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#287639 - 03/12/15 10:03 AM [User Showcase] Re: Skipping [Re: gruverider]
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Whoa!!! Tripping for sure. I couldn't get a handle on the time signature at first, then I fell in the gruve. The vocals, mix and arrangement are first class. Influences- no clue. I have never heard anything like this before but i surely am going back for another listen. This must have taken considerable time to get it to this level. Outstanding work!!! I am a huge fan. Tom

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#287642 - 03/12/15 10:26 AM [User Showcase] Re: Skipping [Re: gruverider]
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Brilliant music!! I love it. Great arrangement. Love the sweeping synth texture, and different time signature. If I would change anything, I'd make the vocal a little wetter (possibly a touch louder), and a rounder (and maybe wetter) snare sound. To me, I hear a YES influence. Very, very cool stuff!! Take care. Greg

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#287645 - 03/12/15 10:33 AM [User Showcase] Re: Skipping [Re: gruverider]
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Hi Lawrence,

wow! What a groove. Really suits your nick.
Great lyrics and vocals.
I'm just listening a second time and it won't
be the last.

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#287668 - 03/12/15 02:12 PM [User Showcase] Re: Skipping [Re: gruverider]
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Super cool, Lawrence.

Awesome production. (I did not like the snare roll that popped up a number of times - but that's a very little thing - loved everything else). Excellent write.

Very original. You could have toured with this group. Sort of YES meets ELO meets CSNY meets Sting and some early Genesis... all mixed up together to create something new...

floyd

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#287697 - 03/12/15 05:53 PM [User Showcase] Re: Skipping [Re: floyd jane]
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Originally Posted By: c_fogle
This is a nice piece of work. Excellent vocals all around on this one.

I'm sorry I can't provide any musical influences I hear because I didn't follow this genre in the past. I've been introduced to so many different genres since joining the BB forum that I would have never stopped on a radio station back in the day.

I like your song and performance.

Thanks for posting.

Charlie

Thank you for stopping in for a listen.

Originally Posted By: FredM
Hello Lawrence,

What a musical work!!!

I heard it on souncloud this morning, and I couldn't get an understanding on the meters. 7/8 I had discovered, but maybe a 6/8 at times? and/or a 4/4?

I listened several times to see a bit trough the song. Despite it's complexity it doesn't feel unnatural or forced. It shows your great musical capabilities and background. The mix is exellent!

Mmusical influences... I would say Genesis certainly, curious to what others are gonna add...

I enjoyed it thouroughly!

Fred

Fred, It begins in 4/4 and the body is mostly 7/8 except for the "skipping" silent brakes most have 3 beats. Glad that you enjoyed it.

Originally Posted By: tommyad
Whoa!!! Tripping for sure. I couldn't get a handle on the time signature at first, then I fell in the gruve. The vocals, mix and arrangement are first class. Influences- no clue. I have never heard anything like this before but i surely am going back for another listen. This must have taken considerable time to get it to this level. Outstanding work!!! I am a huge fan. Tom

Thank you Tom. Glad that you enjoyed it.

Originally Posted By: Greg Johnson
Brilliant music!! I love it. Great arrangement. Love the sweeping synth texture, and different time signature. If I would change anything, I'd make the vocal a little wetter (possibly a touch louder), and a rounder (and maybe wetter) snare sound. To me, I hear a YES influence. Very, very cool stuff!! Take care. Greg

Thanks for taking a listen. I did listen to a whole lot of Yes! I will be revisiting it in time (as I learn more about mixing) but I'm ready to move on for now. : )

Originally Posted By: boehm
Hi Lawrence,

wow! What a groove. Really suits your nick.
Great lyrics and vocals.
I'm just listening a second time and it won't
be the last.

Guenter

It does fit my nick. Glad the you liked it.

Originally Posted By: floyd jane
Super cool, Lawrence.

Awesome production. (I did not like the snare roll that popped up a number of times - but that's a very little thing - loved everything else). Excellent write.

Very original. You could have toured with this group. Sort of YES meets ELO meets CSNY meets Sting and some early Genesis... all mixed up together to create something new...

floyd

Thanks for listening Floyd. Yes the snare roll was a bit of a trick to pull off. Multiple midi notes separated by milliseconds and adjusted velocities from low to high. I continue to search for odd meter drum loops I love writing in 7/8 and 5/4. That's one heck of a band there!

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#287703 - 03/12/15 06:24 PM [User Showcase] Re: Skipping [Re: gruverider]
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Very cool!
Totally different than what we've heard from you so far.
We detect (apart from the 70s and 80s influences) a little bit of Genesis and other symphonic rock acts from those days.

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#287704 - 03/12/15 06:52 PM [User Showcase] Re: Skipping [Re: gruverider]
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You did a great job on this.

I hear AOR (album oriented rock) like Moody Blues, Tull, Wakeman, and Yes.

Josie

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#287710 - 03/12/15 07:32 PM [User Showcase] Re: Skipping [Re: gruverider]
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Something quite out of left field.
Interesting polyrhythms, and definitely a bit technically challenging.
I could hear a bit of Jethro Tull in there somewhere(!)
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#287724 - 03/12/15 11:24 PM [User Showcase] Re: Skipping [Re: Sundance]
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Originally Posted By: R & AM
Very cool!
Totally different than what we've heard from you so far.
We detect (apart from the 70s and 80s influences) a little bit of Genesis and other symphonic rock acts from those days.

Rob & Anne-Marie
Thank you for listening. I listened to a lot of those bands - Yes, Rush, King Crimson ...

Originally Posted By: Sundance
You did a great job on this.

I hear AOR (album oriented rock) like Moody Blues, Tull, Wakeman, and Yes.

Josie
Thank you Josie. I think you hit the nail on the head.

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#287725 - 03/12/15 11:25 PM [User Showcase] Re: Skipping [Re: VideoTrack]
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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Something quite out of left field.
Interesting polyrhythms, and definitely a bit technically challenging.
I could hear a bit of Jethro Tull in there somewhere(!)
Thanks for stopping in for a listen.

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#287730 - 03/13/15 12:39 AM [User Showcase] Re: Skipping [Re: gruverider]
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I hear a lot of King Crimson. Maybe very early Pink Floyd.
Used to be my favorite night sailing music.
Maybe a touch of Rick Wakeman at the beginning.
The meters sound very comfortable.
Very well done nostalgic sound. Cheers.
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#287734 - 03/13/15 02:39 AM [User Showcase] Re: Skipping [Re: gruverider]
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Hi Lawrence.

I think this is brilliant!

I can see that it might have taken a bit of putting together and the mix must have been tricky, but the end product is first class.

Influences? Well, certainly the 80s and really you could just pick any of the New Romantics from that era. Loved every minute and it transported me back in time for a few minutes.

ROG.

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#287739 - 03/13/15 02:54 AM [User Showcase] Re: Skipping [Re: gruverider]
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Lawrence,

Excellent! I love hearing what you come up with next - great all around.

Bob
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#287747 - 03/13/15 03:31 AM [User Showcase] Re: Skipping [Re: gruverider]
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My goodness Lawrence, when this first started I had to check back to SC that I was listening to one of your songs. So very different. That swirling synth thingy is something else. I agree a touch of Moody Blues here. Great production.


Edited by JosieC (03/13/15 03:32 AM)

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#287814 - 03/13/15 11:13 AM [User Showcase] Re: Skipping [Re: gruverider]
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Even before I read Josie's spot on comment I heard Ian Anderson (Jethro Tull).
I've listened to similar genres over the years but I'm way too much of a musical rube
to make intelligent comments on the rhythmic structures and signatures. I will
say that we both found it fascinating and, wow, what a departure from your
Americana signature that we have become so used to.

Awesome.

J&B

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#287925 - 03/14/15 07:37 AM [User Showcase] Re: Skipping [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Originally Posted By: RichMac
I hear a lot of King Crimson. Maybe very early Pink Floyd.
Used to be my favorite night sailing music.
Maybe a touch of Rick Wakeman at the beginning.
The meters sound very comfortable.
Very well done nostalgic sound. Cheers.
I miss sailing! We use to sail lake Pontchartrain back in the early 2000's but Katrina took my buddies boat and then we both moved away. Thanks for listening.

Originally Posted By: ROG
Hi Lawrence.

I think this is brilliant!

I can see that it might have taken a bit of putting together and the mix must have been tricky, but the end product is first class.

Influences? Well, certainly the 80s and really you could just pick any of the New Romantics from that era. Loved every minute and it transported me back in time for a few minutes.

ROG.
Thanks Rog. It is a journey into the past.

Originally Posted By: rsdean
Lawrence,

Excellent! I love hearing what you come up with next - great all around.

Bob
Thank you Bob. I do like to try different genres.

Originally Posted By: JosieC
My goodness Lawrence, when this first started I had to check back to SC that I was listening to one of your songs. So very different. That swirling synth thingy is something else. I agree a touch of Moody Blues here. Great production.
Thank you. I was heavy into that prog rock for a long time.

Originally Posted By: Janice & Bud
Even before I read Josie's spot on comment I heard Ian Anderson (Jethro Tull).
I've listened to similar genres over the years but I'm way too much of a musical rube to make intelligent comments on the rhythmic structures and signatures. I will say that we both found it fascinating and, wow, what a departure from your
Americana signature that we have become so used to.

Awesome.

J&B
Thanks for listening. When I first moved to Texas in '06 I didn't know anything about Americana and it took me some time to "get it". I didn't like it at first and then I heard Townes. I was hooked.

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#287934 - 03/14/15 07:58 AM [User Showcase] Re: Skipping [Re: gruverider]
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Lawrence,


Ain't no pigeonhole for this one! It sounds like music from the Future. Loved it.



Regards,

Bob

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