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#108114 - 03/09/11 05:49 PM [User Showcase] Im So Glad You'Re Leaving
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Hi many moons ago ,myself like many others went through the trawmores of divorce ,and what a sad specium i was ,so guitar in hand i composed what i started out as a love song ,but i had a change of heart ,and half way thro thought to myself why not write a song that said ,im so glad your leaving ,even tho i was falling apart and very much still in love ,and guitar in hand tears in the eyes ,this is what i came up with
Im So Glad Youre Leaving ,here is the link ,for anyone feeling sad http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_7636944


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#108115 - 03/09/11 06:27 PM [User Showcase] Re: Im So Glad You'Re Leaving [Re: Brian Scarratt]
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Brian, very nice. Good lyrics, melody and vocal - I enjoyed this.

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#108116 - 03/09/11 06:44 PM [User Showcase] Re: Im So Glad You'Re Leaving [Re: rsdean]
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Brian, very nice. Good lyrics, melody and vocal - I enjoyed this.

Bob


Hi Bob thank you for listening in ,best wishes Brian.

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#108117 - 03/10/11 01:45 PM [User Showcase] Re: Im So Glad You'Re Leaving [Re: Brian Scarratt]
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Nice song - very catchy! I really enjoyed listening to it.

But you might want to have another go at the mix. The vocals sound like they're clipping, and there are points where you can hear noise from the vocal mike. The sax stays the same volume throughout the song, which sounds odd when you get to the solo. The instruments sound like they're all in different spaces, instead of being part of the same song.

In the grand scheme of things, those aren't really important - it's still a nice song. Thanks for posting it!
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#108118 - 03/11/11 06:33 AM [User Showcase] Re: Im So Glad You'Re Leaving [Re: dcuny]
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Brian, I second all what dcuny mentioned. It's a very catchy tune and I like it. One more important rule of thumb is to leave the lead vocals in the center. Don't pan it. The same applies (in most cases) to bass too - in mono. Always check your mixes in mono too! I sincerely hope you don't mind me giving you some advice, especially since I'm quite new at this game too. Cheers, Daniel


Edited by deltagolf (03/11/11 06:34 AM)
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#108119 - 03/11/11 06:47 AM [User Showcase] Re: Im So Glad You'Re Leaving [Re: deltagolf]
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Nice vocal style and sung with feeling.
Nice
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#108120 - 03/11/11 10:02 AM [User Showcase] Re: Im So Glad You'Re Leaving [Re: dcuny]
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Hi and thank you very much for your help ,and please dont be afraid or think i will be offended in anyway ,by any help which is given ,i need to learn ,and it would be no use anyone giving me a pat on the back and saying all is fine when indeed it is not ,so thanks to all of you ,and keep the advise coming please,my very best wishes to you all Brian.

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#108121 - 03/15/11 03:29 PM [User Showcase] Re: Im So Glad You'Re Leaving [Re: Brian Scarratt]
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Hi and thank you very much for your help ,and please dont be afraid or think i will be offended in anyway ,by any help which is given ,i need to learn ,and it would be no use anyone giving me a pat on the back and saying all is fine when indeed it is not ,so thanks to all of you ,and keep the advise coming please,my very best wishes to you all Brian.



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#108122 - 03/16/11 05:59 AM [User Showcase] Re: Im So Glad You'Re Leaving [Re: Brian Scarratt]
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Brian, you have a fabulous pop/rock voice, great timbre, delivery and perfect intonation: I'm jealous! The song is very impressive in terms of lyrics and arrangement, and you have an instinct for where instruments need to appear and drop out, and where to apply hooks and 'ear candy'. There's some good comments in the posts above which I'm sure will help if you're trying to build your recording skills (as we all are...)
Here's a nit pick, but it did catch my ear: the middle eight is very effective indeed, but I think the rhythm guitar chord at 1:52-ish could be wrong, or not the exact one for the turnaround? As I said, a nit pick in the context of a very enjoyable song indeed. Excellent work.

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#108123 - 03/17/11 09:40 AM [User Showcase] Re: Im So Glad You'Re Leaving [Re: Brian Scarratt]
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Hi Brian. I really like this song. My favorite rhythm too. Since I'm a country rocker this song fits right into my style of music as well.

The mix is interesting in that even tho' the music volumes never change, they still work. Everything came out very clear. The vocal mix, however, needs some work. It's too hot and on the edge of thwack. (digital distortion) But that was mentioned earlier.

When it's time for the sax lead I think I would try to center it a little more. That would make it stand out a little more. If not then try adding more compression during the solo. It wouldn't get louder so much as thicker sounding.

Always check your VU meter on each track to be sure they aren't up too loud. The total meter reading should never go over "0". I've found that -2 or -3 should be tops. Bouncing into the red for a second or two usually doesn't hurt but it's pushing the line.

I fully agree with Skyline's statement. You have an excellent voice. So good on ya Mate. You did good. Keep 'em coming.
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#108124 - 03/17/11 10:32 PM [User Showcase] Re: Im So Glad You'Re Leaving [Re: Russell DeMussel]
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Hi Brian- nice track! Maybe you're like me somewhat- when I'm feeling like utter crap I can write up a storm! When I'm happy, well adjusted, and everything seems to be going my way in life, I get writers block like a brick wall! LOL! Happy song writing can be more of a challenge for sure. Why? Well, happy is BORING mostly! So I understand when the songs fall right out in the middle of misery. I hope you're doing well these days. But, you got a nice song out of it! Since others are making mix suggestions, I'll make my suggestion about song structure. You have decent chords doing some interesting things- taking some turns to make it interesting. But at 3 1/2 minutes it feels long, like it's one repetative musical idea. This track could use a modulation to break it up and kick it up another notch. A modulation is the one very important decision that should be made at the very beginning of the structural phase. Not every song needs it, by any means. But it's a good idea to consider that every song you write will need a modulation and then in the end, decide if it doesn't. Modulations are that important. And they are a real challenge to place properly, never mind getting biab and rt's to handle what you want there. So sometimes it's tempting to let it go. That's always a mistake. Write your modulation, listen to your song objectively, and see if it works or is needed. If not, you don't need one. But eight out of ten times, it usually helps a bunch.

That's my thought for the day! LOL! Nice tune, and I like your voice too!

Dan
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#108125 - 03/18/11 03:04 PM [User Showcase] Re: Im So Glad You'Re Leaving [Re: Shockwave199]
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Hi Brian- nice track! Maybe you're like me somewhat- when I'm feeling like utter crap I can write up a storm! When I'm happy, well adjusted, and everything seems to be going my way in life, I get writers block like a brick wall! LOL! Happy song writing can be more of a challenge for sure. Why? Well, happy is BORING mostly! So I understand when the songs fall right out in the middle of misery. I hope you're doing well these days. But, you got a nice song out of it! Since others are making mix suggestions, I'll make my suggestion about song structure. You have decent chords doing some interesting things- taking some turns to make it interesting. But at 3 1/2 minutes it feels long, like it's one repetitive musical idea. This track could use a modulation to break it up and kick it up another notch. A modulation is the one very important decision that should be made at the very beginning of the structural phase. Not every song needs it, by any means. But it's a good idea to consider that every song you write will need a modulation and then in the end, decide if it doesn't. Modulations are that important. And they are a real challenge to place properly, never mind getting biab and it's to handle what you want there. So sometimes it's tempting to let it go. That's always a mistake. Write your modulation, listen to your song objectively, and see if it works or is needed. If not, you don't need one. But eight out of ten times, it usually helps a bunch.

That's my thought for the day! LOL! Nice tune, and I like your voice too!

Dan



Hi Dan thank you so much for taking the time to listen,now you just have to explain what modulation is lol because i am not sure as i am bit of a novice at song writing ,but very keen to learn and this sounds interesting ,and yes its funny how one has to have a whole load of heartache before a good tune can be wrote lol but thank you i am fine now ,very best wishes Brian.


Edited by BRIAN SCARRATT (03/18/11 03:05 PM)

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#108126 - 03/18/11 03:11 PM [User Showcase] Re: I'm So Glad You're Leaving [Re: Russell DeMussel]
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Hi Brian. I really like this song. My favorite rhythm too. Since I'm a country rocker this song fits right into my style of music as well.

The mix is interesting in that even tho' the music volumes never change, they still work. Everything came out very clear. The vocal mix, however, needs some work. It's too hot and on the edge of thwack. (digital distortion) But that was mentioned earlier.

When it's time for the sax lead I think I would try to center it a little more. That would make it stand out a little more. If not then try adding more compression during the solo. It wouldn't get louder so much as thicker sounding.

Always check your VU meter on each track to be sure they aren't up too loud. The total meter reading should never go over "0". I've found that -2 or -3 should be tops. Bouncing into the red for a second or two usually doesn't hurt but it's pushing the line.

I fully agree with Skyline's statement. You have an excellent voice. So good on ya Mate. You did good. Keep 'em coming.



Hi Russ thank you ever so much for your ideas and help,i am very keen to learn and will eagerly try any suggestions on how to improve my work, thank you once again ,very best wishes Brian.

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#108127 - 03/18/11 04:16 PM [User Showcase] Re: I'm So Glad You're Leaving [Re: Brian Scarratt]
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Brian- a modulation is a key change, usually upwards. Your song is in the key of G. Modulating to the key of A somewhere near the half way point or towards the end could help add some interest and lift.

Dan
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#108128 - 03/21/11 07:42 PM [User Showcase] Re: I'm So Glad You're Leaving [Re: Shockwave199]
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Brian, this is one good song. Following the suggestions that have been presented should give you the perfect mix.

Good luck on the remix.
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#108129 - 03/27/11 10:21 AM [User Showcase] Re: I'm So Glad You're Leaving [Re: Brian Scarratt]
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Hi
just a big thank you to everyone for listing in and all the help and encouragement .it has been great fun for me and i have really enjoyed hearing all the fab songs the talented folk on this wonderful forum have produced ,my very best wishes Brian.

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#108130 - 03/27/11 08:34 PM [User Showcase] Re: I'm So Glad You're Leaving [Re: MarioD]
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Brian, this is one good song. Following the suggestions that have been presented should give you the perfect mix.

Good luck on the remix.




+1

Very nice Brian.

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#108131 - 03/29/11 05:18 AM [User Showcase] Re: I'm So Glad You're Leaving [Re: Muzic Trax]
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Hi Brian,
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Nice song - very catchy! I really enjoyed listening to it.



Yep! I totally agree. You've got a magnificent quality to your voice and it was perfectly framed by the backing instruments chosen.

Best regards,
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#108132 - 03/30/11 05:00 PM [User Showcase] Re: I'm So Glad You're Leaving [Re: Noel96]
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Thanks Noel i really appreciate your comments ,im still not very good at mixing and get even more confused when there seems to be a norm that the base should be in the middle with the drums and vocal also in yet when i listen to some of the Beatle songs that have been remixed with the voices on the left and the music on the right they sound awesome ,i think i will give it a go ,best wishes Brian,


Edited by BRIAN SCARRATT (03/30/11 05:05 PM)

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#108133 - 03/31/11 02:47 AM [User Showcase] Re: I'm So Glad You're Leaving [Re: Brian Scarratt]
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Hi Brian,

From what I've read, when stereo was young, most people didn't really use it to its full potential. It was standard practice to place the vocals on one channel and the backing on the other. Since most people listened to radio and records in mono, this placement really didn't matter. Later on, people started being more discerning and stereo considerations became important.

In my mixing, I sometimes move the bass to one side by about 5% and drums to the other side by about 5%. I've found that this sometimes helps the vocals sound cleaner but still keeps the drums and bass pretty well centered. I always have vocals and solo instruments centered. To my mind, skilled use of the stereo field is important to mixing. It can really make music sound 3-dimensional. (I'm still working on this skill. Lot's of room for improvement, yet!)

All the best,
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