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I hope this has a simple answer, as I've not been able to find a solution. I imported a simple, single instrument midi track into BIAB2014. I made the original midi using musescore and assigned the instrument as 'tenor sax'. As expected, BIAB imported the midi track into the MELODY and plays it correctly as a tenor sax voice. However, I cannot change the voice using the mixer or any other way I would normally change a midi patch.
What's the solution?
Thanks for the help and Happy New Year,
Bob
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Bob, if this is a MIDI file not from BIAB but from elsewhere, then it must have the patch number embedded into it. I think RealBand can show and remove those, not sure. Can you post the file and let us play with it?
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Bob -
Go into "Notation View" in BIAB. Once there, select the melody track (it will be labeled with the first letter of the instrument shown in the mixer). You'll see the notes for the melody, so you can tell you got the right one.
Then, click on the "#" sign to the right of the instrument buttons. This brings up the MIDI event list.
Scroll to the top of the event list, and you'll see the following MIDI events (which came in from your import):
0:1:000 121 Reset All Controllers Data = 0, Channel 1
0:1:000 Patch Change 67 Tenor Sax Channel 1
0:1:000 7 Volume Data=100 Ch 1
0:1:000 10 Panning Data=64 Ch 1
0:1:000 91 External Effects Depth Data=0 Ch 1
0:1:000 93 Chorus Depth 3 Data=0 Ch 1
Highlight each of these (and only these entries) and in turn click the Delete button until all are gone. Click on the Close button
That will get rid of the hard coded MIDI information from your imported file.
Now, click on the Sequencer button and select "Sequencer on Melody Track".
In the window that pops up, just click OK. Since there will only be one channel in the Sequencer, BIAB will ask if you want to set it back to single channel. Answer "Yes".
Now, you can change instruments to your heart's content via the mixer for the melody channel.
Hope that helped.
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Thank you John. Despite using BIAB since the 90's, I don't think I would have ever figured out your solution. Wonderful! (One of the many reasons I read this forum on a daily basis.)
Best,
Bob
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Agreed. This is one of those "got ya" items that come up every so often and I can never remember where to fix it. Thanks for the reminder.
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Hello,
in Biab, the imported Midi files are set on the melody or soloist line.
(you can check this by muting all instruments, one after the other until you reach (in the case of your file) the piano (melody) part). Then you do not hear anything more.
If you now (of course after you cancel the mute button) click on the icon "sequencer" (green circle) you get all available midi instruments of the song. In your case, the sax.
If you now click on the drop menu, you can easily change the instrument, like I did with your file and set it to a clarinet or anything else you like! Get it?
Have fun!
Bernard
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Agreed. This is one of those "got ya" items that come up every so often and I can never remember where to fix it. Thanks for the reminder. Candidate for the Tips and Tricks Forum?
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You can use the sequencer feature to change just the instrument patch, but the MIDI file also contained panning, volume, effects, and chorus commands. By deleting them in the event list editor, you regain control over those parameters as well. That's why I didn't just go straight to the sequencer.
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I agree with the suggestion to add this to the Tips and Tricks. Over to you John?
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