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Originally Posted By: Don Gaynor
Herb,

You missed something of value: I am both mute and paralyzed! Oh what I've give to have the liberties you take for granted!

My only open option is to trust the ears of those I love, admire, and respect. That's why I came here!

Donny


Now that you pointed that out... Yup, that would present a few minor challenges.

I knew a few things about you but not that. I'm sorry to hear that about anyone but most especially my internet musician friends.

I thought that avatar of yours, the dancing chicken, was in fact, you in disguise.


You can find my music at:
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Add nothing that adds nothing to the music.
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No serious harm done. I still find great joy in living. It certainly beats the alternative.

Peter Gannon gave me back my music that I thought lost forever. That keeps me active in heart and mind. Add to that the wonderful, loving friends who travel, at great expense, to visit me and entertain at my nursing home FREE. They make facing the unknown each day full of joy and wide-eyed wonder. "My cup runeth over!"

Dr. Gannon keeps me involved "back stage" likely more for my benefit than his. It adds purpose to my life that every living organism needs to sustain life.

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Hope this is not high jacking the thread but I need some advice about the importance of impedance with headphones. I have used Grado 60's for 10+ years. They are great but are an open design and I am looking for something as good but more enclosed to keep out background noise. The Grados have an impedance of 32 ohms. I once bought some Sennheiser phones (cannot remember which ones) with a higher impedance and couldn't get anything like the same volume from my Yamaha piano so I took them back. Also I don't really want noise cancellation phones that take batteries.

Any comments on impedance and choice of phones, up to say $200?

Thanks
Tony

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Hope this is not high jacking the thread but I need some advice about the importance of impedance with headphones. I have used Grado 60's for 10+ years. They are great but are an open design and I am looking for something as good but more enclosed to keep out background noise. The Grados have an impedance of 32 ohms. I once bought some Sennheiser phones (cannot remember which ones) with a higher impedance and couldn't get anything like the same volume from my Yamaha piano so I took them back. Also I don't really want noise cancellation phones that take batteries.

Any comments on impedance and choice of phones, up to say $200?

Thanks
Tony




Impedance is also dependent on your source source. What is the output impedance of your piano?

Here is a set of phones that were made for digital pianos (32 ohms), and man, are they cheap!


http://www.amazon.com/Samson-Technologies-HP10-Stereo-Headphones/dp/B003MV0U5E



My personal preference are these:


http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/HD280Pro




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Bob

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Originally Posted By: Don Gaynor

Nice frequency response, if relatively flat (+/- 10%) however, my room configuration demands 9' cable, absolute minimum. I don't like extension cables. They tend to pull apart or add more problems, in my experience. K.I.S.S.. You'd wonder how I accomplish anything under these space constraints. lol

Thanks for jumping in though.

Don

PS: Those that don't give a freq response, I dismiss out of hand.


Don, don't worry about extension cables. I have using this technique for years now:

1-loosely put a zip tie (#1) around the headphone cable
2-loosely put a zip tie (#2) around the extension cable
3-loosely put a zip tie (#3) into the zip ties #1 & #2 loops
4-securly tighten zip ties #1 & #2 onto the cables
5- tighten zip tie #3

I know that you will have to have someone do this for you but your cables will not come unplugged if someone trips on them.

I hope this helps good buddy.



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Originally Posted By: Don Gaynor

Nice frequency response, if relatively flat (+/- 10%) however, my room configuration demands 9' cable, absolute minimum. I don't like extension cables. They tend to pull apart or add more problems, in my experience. K.I.S.S.. You'd wonder how I accomplish anything under these space constraints. lol

Thanks for jumping in though.

Don

PS: Those that don't give a freq response, I dismiss out of hand.


Don, don't worry about extension cables. I have using this technique for years now:

1-loosely put a zip tie (#1) around the headphone cable
2-loosely put a zip tie (#2) around the extension cable
3-loosely put a zip tie (#3) into the zip ties #1 & #2 loops
4-securly tighten zip ties #1 & #2 onto the cables
5- tighten zip tie #3

I know that you will have to have someone do this for you but your cables will not come unplugged if someone trips on them.

I hope this helps good buddy.




Dear friend, Mario,

The flip side - if made too trip-proof, they topple, speakers, big-screen/monitor, desk, everything (twice). If it don't breakaway, I'll be in expensive and deep doo-doo!

It looks like the J-Buds are going to be a reasonable temporary solution. Don't know if I'll ever get accustomed to something inside my ears and very little low-end. Night/Day difference from the beautiful "thud" of my Berrys. That may actually be my Pacemaker and coaxing me wee Oyrish 'art into just one more beat.

I always respect your input, my friend.

Donny

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I use these in my studio. I have about a dozen of them, some for several years and they're still going strong. They have cupped ear, open back, come with a 9' 8" straight cord and a plug and play adapter -mini to standard- "These will not slip off your ears and they've never made me sweat". I hope this helps.

Here's the pertinent info and here's the link where you can buy them: http://www.amazon.com/JVC-HAG101-Headphones-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B00008DHSN/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1455762284&sr=8-2&keywords=jvc+ha-g101+headphones

JVC HA-G101

Specifications:
Driver Unit 1.57" (40mm)
Frequency Response 16-22,000Hz
Nominal Impedance 32ohms
Sensitivity 98dB/1mW
Max. Input Capability 50mW
Cord Length 9.84ft (3m)
Weight (without cord) 5.99oz (170g)
Plug Nickel Plated
Accessory Plug Adapter

Features:
super bass sound system
Nominal impedance: 32 ohms
Sensitivity:103 dB/mW
Frequency response,8-20,000Hz
40 mm diameter diaphragm
Cord length:3.0m (9.8ft)
plug & plug adapter mini to standard
Maximum input capability: 50mW

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Thanks, KJ. The response looks great!

The leatherette cushion pads are not ideal for me. They eventually slide down around my neck and Aide must re-position them often.

Thanks though.

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Originally Posted By: 90 dB

Impedance is also dependent on your source source. What is the output impedance of your piano?
Here is a set of phones that were made for digital pianos (32 ohms), and man, are they cheap!
http://www.amazon.com/Samson-Technologies-HP10-Stereo-Headphones/dp/B003MV0U5E

My personal preference are these:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/HD280Pro

Regards,
Bob


I was really looking to understand what single phone impedance I should consider for all possible uses - keyboard, mixer, computer, iPhone etc. I assume that lower is better than higher so perhaps 32 ohm is the best choice?

I was actually also considering the HD280 Pro and based on your additional recommendation I went out and bought a pair. I tried them on my piano and knew immediately they were not what I want. I am very picky about my piano sound and they are very "boomy" By comparison my Grado 60's are clear and crisp and reproduce the stereo piano sound superbly. I assume this is the difference between closed and open designs. I think I will stick with Grado and forget about closed design phones.

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Tony

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