|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,243
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,243 |
I KNOW I should know, but I can't remember the fix for this.
When I use the Chord Builder icon to "test" out a chord it is Silent.
If I accept the chord anyway into my SGU, it plays fine but thats not the point - how do I get Chord Builder to make some noise please!
Ian
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,864
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,864 |
Hi Ian, I know of two locations where BIAB allows a user to hear the sound of a chord (there could be more). These are (a) the "Play" button in Chord Builder and (b) "Play Current Chord" from the 'right-click on chordsheet' menu. Both these choices use the Bass and Piano track (using the static names) for the chord voices. These tracks are the top two in the mixer and may be called something different if you have variable track names active. (The image below shows the tracks using the static names. This identifies the tracks I mean.)  With the above in mind, make sure that the Bass and Piano tracks have the volume turned up and are not muted. Hopefully this will help, Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2024
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,243
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,243 |
Hi Noel
BOTH of these options are Silent!
I have used the "Play" on Chord Builder before and it has worked. And now it doesnt!
I didnt know about the alternative, thank you Noel, but it also is silent.
Baffled!
Ian
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,864
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,864 |
Ian,
Are you Bass and Piano tracks active? That is, are they not coloured grey and are the volumes turned up?
To test this, try loading the demo for a different style and see what happens. If the option still does not work, it would be worth trying "Return to factory settings" under the Opt menu (Use the upper of the two options as it won't affect your sound driver settings).
Regards,
Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2024
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,243
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,243 |
Hi Noel
Bass and Piano tracks active for either midi styles or RT styles and volumes at 90. In neither case is there any sound.
I returned to factory settings, excluding drivers and still the same.
Regards
ian
Last edited by sixchannel; 03/14/16 01:01 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,864
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,864 |
Ian,
Sometimes songs get saved with something that corrupts the normal set up. It's rare, but I've had this happen.
To double-check whether or not this is the case, can you try the following...
1. Select "New" from the file menu to create a new, blank chord sheet. (This will also load all default values associated with the chord sheet.)
2. Select any style from within stylemaker.
Do either of the chord previews work now?
Another thought...
Are the Bass and Piano tracks muted with bar settings anywhere in the song?
Regards,
Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2024
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,122
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,122 |
Look at your midi options as they may have changed. BiaB and RB can use audio, a midi soft synth or hardware driven synth. When you're playing a file you're hearing audio or (typically) a soft synth. When you're using Play A Chord or Chordbuilder you're using the hardware driven synth.
In midi options there is a checkbox for use DXi soft synth. In your case it is checked but there is nothing selected to play if it is not checked. You need to take the unchecked setting to midi mapper or another operating system midi sound source.
Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1111) RB (5) Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,243
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,243 |
Hi Jim Thanks for the info. I'm not "aware" I changed anything but it has been a while since I tried Chord Builder. I'm pretty clueless when it comes to the computer tech of all this but these are the settings I have in midi options so that I can use my Forte fonts when using midi styles. I do not want to lose that capability. Please could you look and see if this is where the issue might lie? -  Regards Ian
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,753
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,753 |
Last edited by Tobias; 03/14/16 06:05 PM.
Does the noise in your head bother me ?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,864
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,864 |
Thanks for reminding me about that thread, Tobias. It had slipped my mind. This is what Jim Fogle was referring to in his above post.
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2024
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 18,352
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 18,352 |
Ah-haaa, yes, just maybe yes this is the culprit. Ian, let us know eh?
Trev
BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,243
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,243 |
Hi guys
Sadly none of the three options of Midi output driver (see pic above) makes any difference - still silence.
cheers
ian
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 265
Apprentice
|
|
Apprentice
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 265 |
Hi, Ian,
Did you click on the link in Tobias's message? That thread explains that the chord builder won't work (at least not normally) IF you are using a DXi Synth. His message in that thread does go on to offer a workaround. Here is what he said:
Spoke with Joe at PG tech support. He informed me that the Chord Builder does not/ will not/ can not play through the DXi Synth. So, even though my song set up is playing through the DXi Synth properly here's how the get sound from the Chord Builder.
Chose a different "Midi Output Driver". But leave the VSTi/DXi setting so they are working with the song. Ignore the warning that you wont get sound output due to the "Use DXi..." being selected.
Both my Microsoft GS Wave Table Synth and my hardware synths (SD-20 or Juno) produce sound for the Chord Builder while the song plays through the DXi Synth with out the need to switch back and forth.
This works fine for the. The only downside is I don't hear the chord with the actual/exact tone as what my song will be playing. ex: Cotote Forte 90 Pad Warm Slow sound quite different from the Microsoft Wave Table Synth. Non-the-less I do get a close rendition of what the chord will sound like before I enter the chord into the song.
Hope that helps.
Jim
Psalm 33:3 Sing unto him a new song; play skillfully with a loud noise.
BIAB 2018 build 519; Dell Inspiron N4110, Windows 10 64 bit, Intel Core i3-2350m running at 2.29 GHz, Memory: 6 GB DDR3, SDRAM 1MHz
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,753
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,753 |
Oh but, I also remember that If I have an external Audio Interface [Focusrite 2i4] connected there is no way to get the Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth to output sound through the audio side of the interface. Metronome and Chord Builder only generate sound through a hardware synth or the Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth (which will only play through the computers built in sound card.) So, if all your audio (and DXi audio) is coming out the computers sound card then the method in that thread works. Otherwise, if your real tracks are playing through an outboard audio interface and your only midi synth is a DXi playing through the outboard audio interface also you will need a separate set of speakers or headphones connected to the sound card jack on your computer to hear the metronome or chord builder. It will give you an idea of what the chord will sound like but it won't be your DXi. It will be the sound of Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth. Aaargh! That is, unless your outboard audio driver is also a midi driver set up and connected to a hardware synth. Perhaps a wishlist item would be to allow metronome and chord builder to output through DXi Synth.
BTW, I can't find anything in the Help files that explains this limitation.
Last edited by Tobias; 03/16/16 06:43 PM.
Does the noise in your head bother me ?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,243
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,243 |
Well, as you can see from my screen grab in earlier post, I have only three options in midi output driver. NONE of them make any difference.
Ian
PS - I have no external input or output devices.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,122
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,122 |
Sixchannel,
Man your computer just doesn't want you to make music, does it?
I'm out of suggestions but do have some thoughts/observations.
Let's look at the possible midi output driver choices one by one and see if we're all on the same page about what should happen. That way we know everyone is thinking the same.
None. There shouldn't be any sound output when a midi track is played. Normally no reason to select this choice.
Midi mapper. Midi commands go through this choice and can be changed depending how the mapper is programmed. Typically not the best choice unless you have multiple midi devices and need to divide tracks between devices. Not a good choice in this instance.
Creative synth. Your computer has a Creative Labs (Soundblaster) sound card installed inside the computer or plugged into a usb port. This hardware choice CAN supply midi sound patches but has not been selected.
GS wavetable. Midi sound patches embedded in your computer's operating system. Can provide midi sound patches when selected and is the highlighted selection.
external midi. Computer's usb or five pin midi out port. No sound unless a midi sound module is connected, turned on and amplified.
Forte DXi plug-in. When selected the software sound module BiaB should use to play midi tracks.
The chordbuilder doesn't use the Forte DXi, instead it uses the computer's default midi sound module which could be either the Creative synth or GS wavetable.
Now, the question in my mind, do you have any program like a game or media player that can play a midi file using either the Creative synth or GS wavetable as the sound module?
Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1111) RB (5) Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,864
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,864 |
Ian,
Did you try my suggestion a few posts back about creating a new blank file using the "New" option under the File menu?
This is worth trying as it will ascertain whether the problem is BIAB or simply some form of file corruption that has saved with a song file.
Regards,
Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2024
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,243
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,243 |
Ian,
Did you try my suggestion a few posts back about creating a new blank file using the "New" option under the File menu?
This is worth trying as it will ascertain whether the problem is BIAB or simply some form of file corruption that has saved with a song file.
Regards,
Noel Hi Noel Sorry, i should have said, but forgot!  All tests have been done by clicking New and using a midi style (just in case). Any midi files i play (very seldom) run through WMP. HTH cos I'm baffled. I guess in the scheme of things is not massive issue - i can always try a chord in situ and re-gen - but thats slow compared to "whats Am7b5 sound like here? Click." If it had NEVER worked i could understand that it was some kind of mess up with my settings. Ian PS - the Creative Audigy Soundblaster soundcard is NOT listed in the right hand column.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 18,352
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 18,352 |
Hi Ian
Is there an opportunity that you could call Support and get them to remotely log in to your computer (Teamviewer or similar) to diagnose and (hopefully) resolve. I hear they're pretty good.
Trev
BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,243
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,243 |
Hi Ian
Is there an opportunity that you could call Support and get them to remotely log in to your computer (Teamviewer or similar) to diagnose and (hopefully) resolve. I hear they're pretty good.
Trev Hi Trev I'll certainly drop a line to Support first. We are 7 hrs ahead of them so will try and fix a time when we both have our eyes open.  Never tried remote access before. Hope it works with Win XP Pro. Ian
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums66
Topics81,581
Posts734,680
Members38,499
| |
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean