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#368160 - 10/01/16 01:50 PM [User Showcase] Re: Stoplight On North Main Street [Re: Greg Johnson]
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I am late to the party but extremely glad that I came. This is your best to date. I couldn't say it better than what Greg said:

Originally Posted By: Greg Johnson
It is amazing what this program can do in the hands of someone who knows how to use it, and Floyd knows how!! Of all the wonderful arrangements I've heard on this forum, this is my all time favorite. The interplay between instruments is magical. The ONLY thing I like better than the arrangement/production is the song itself. SO BEAUTIFUL!!! This is a lovely bittersweet reflective song about the past we miss and long for, and the only thing more emotionally powerful than that period of young innocence is the intensity of the emotion with which we long for it. This is so wonderfully written, it would make Jimmy Webb jealous. If I ever get a record deal (don't hold your breath), this song is going on my first album, maybe as the title track. Absolutely WONDERFUL Floyd!!! Take care. Greg


This is a keeper.
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#368299 - 10/02/16 01:28 PM [User Showcase] Re: Stoplight On North Main Street [Re: Skyline]
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Originally Posted By: Sergio Guarneri

Very melodic Floyd.
These real tracks are really great.

Sergio


Thanks, Sergio.



Originally Posted By: gibson
floyd
stopped by for another listen as this is a great song!
and to say that re:
Quote:
I'm pretty sure a gibsonated "There's a traffic light on Prince of Wales drive" is a masterpiece just waiting to happen.
The only wait now will be for my other songs to get off page 1 as it's finito!! cool

Mr Diamond isn't going to be copying my style laugh

Alyn


Cool! I am truly looking forward to that!!...


Originally Posted By: Skyline
Wow. It doesn't come much better than this.
A beautiful setting for a beautiful song, vocal delivered perfectly.
Another wow.

John


Thank you, John. Appreciate you stopping by... I hope this means you have one about to be posted??

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#368396 - 10/03/16 07:17 AM [User Showcase] Re: Stoplight On North Main Street [Re: receder]
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Originally Posted By: dani48
Hi, Floyd !


This is one of your best
but then again, everything
you do is top notch !
I enjoyed listening to this
beautiful music truly very
much and that goes for all
of your music !

Cheers
Dani


smile Thanks, Dani - you are most kind - as always...


Originally Posted By: receder
Hi Floyd,

Not a lot left to say that hasn't already been said.

Definitely one for your Greatest Hits album!

Rec


Thanks, Rec. I hope you will continue to post to the Showcase now that the styles contest is over...your music shows a whole different side to BIAB (which is what the showcase is all about)...

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#368507 - 10/04/16 03:40 AM [User Showcase] Re: Stoplight On North Main Street [Re: floyd jane]
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Originally Posted By: floyd jane


Originally Posted By: receder
Hi Floyd,

Not a lot left to say that hasn't already been said.

Definitely one for your Greatest Hits album!

Rec


Thanks, Rec. I hope you will continue to post to the Showcase now that the styles contest is over...your music shows a whole different side to BIAB (which is what the showcase is all about)...



Thanks Floyd. Yes I hope to continue posting and listening to all the wonderful songs and tips posted by others. Apart from an album, I am working on a song for my child's school to help raise funds which I might post here for feedback.

All the best,
Rec
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#368667 - 10/05/16 06:06 AM [User Showcase] Re: Stoplight On North Main Street [Re: receder]
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Originally Posted By: MarioD
I am late to the party but extremely glad that I came. This is your best to date. I couldn't say it better than what Greg said:

Originally Posted By: Greg Johnson
It is amazing what this program can do in the hands of someone who knows how to use it, and Floyd knows how!! Of all the wonderful arrangements I've heard on this forum, this is my all time favorite. The interplay between instruments is magical. The ONLY thing I like better than the arrangement/production is the song itself. SO BEAUTIFUL!!! This is a lovely bittersweet reflective song about the past we miss and long for, and the only thing more emotionally powerful than that period of young innocence is the intensity of the emotion with which we long for it. This is so wonderfully written, it would make Jimmy Webb jealous. If I ever get a record deal (don't hold your breath), this song is going on my first album, maybe as the title track. Absolutely WONDERFUL Floyd!!! Take care. Greg


This is a keeper.


Thanks for dropping in, Mario. Could not ask for nicer review than that.


Originally Posted By: receder
Originally Posted By: floyd jane


Originally Posted By: receder
Hi Floyd,

Not a lot left to say that hasn't already been said.

Definitely one for your Greatest Hits album!

Rec


Thanks, Rec. I hope you will continue to post to the Showcase now that the styles contest is over...your music shows a whole different side to BIAB (which is what the showcase is all about)...



Thanks Floyd. Yes I hope to continue posting and listening to all the wonderful songs and tips posted by others. Apart from an album, I am working on a song for my child's school to help raise funds which I might post here for feedback.

All the best,
Rec


Good to hear, Rec...




Thanks, again to all who listened and commented. I do appreciate it...

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#371925 - 10/28/16 03:48 AM [User Showcase] Re: Stoplight On North Main Street [Re: floyd jane]
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floyd,

This morning, I noticed that "The Right Track" with Janice and Bud, is up to 999 views. That made me realise that I'm incredibly late to the party with commenting on "Stoplight On North Main Street". Believe it or not, I started writing about "Stoplight" quite a while ago. I think it's time to complete those notes.

"Stoplight" is such a great song. Like all your works that've come before it, everything thing sits together neatly and precisely and showcases both the individual and the whole. From your writing through to your arranging, mixing and performing, I can't imagine how any aspect of this song could be improved to strengthen it. It's a terrific listen.

Even though it's taken me a while to finish this post, after listening to this song, shortly after you posted it, I went on yet another journey of lyric discovery.

I guess I'd better follow Julie Andrews' advice in The Sound Of Music and “Start at the very beginning”...

When I first heard 'Stoplight', the first thought that occurred was, “That's really very clever how floyd has used personification of the stoplight to capture the angst of young love.” As a consequence, I reached for The Songwriters Idea Book by Shiela Davis and had a read through the chapter on personification (page 95, to be exact).

Davis talks about about personification as a sub-category of Metaphor and mentions three ways in which personification can be used.

One
The first technique is to use verbs, and other attributes, that are related to human qualities and apply them to the inanimate object. These are usually simple phrases that are often only a line or maybe two lines longs long.

Quote:
By taking an inanimate object (or maybe even an animal) and giving it human characteristics, the visual power of a phrase is enhanced. Depth of meaning is also increased.

For example, consider the phrase “the fire burnt the log”. If I use some personification, maybe I could say something like “The log screamed as it sizzled; flames snarling and biting into her flesh” - to my mind, that's much more sense-based even though it's still only talking about the log. Also, because the the phrase has become more abstract, it's well suited to verse development.

Two
This approach applies personification to the entire lyric. Davis refers to “Blue Moon” as being a classic example of this application. It's a more advanced lyric writing technique.

Three
This third technique raises the bar even higher and the singer becomes the personified object. “I Write The Songs” is an example of this approach.

So, armed with the above, let's head back to 'Stoplight'...

By the end of line 2 of verse 1, the stoplight is “shouting” commands up Main Street... personification has begun! Because this occurs right at the start of the song, it now colours all lyrics that follow. What a fantastic way of setting the scene! By the end of this second line, the stoplight is an established character within the lyric in just the same way that the moon is a character in “Blue Moon”. Great writing smile

As I'm sitting here thinking about the closing lines of the chorus...

Quote:

there's a stoplight on north main street
that keeps changing it's mind

… it seems to me that these serve three purposes.

1. They provide an effective long-distance relationship with the opening lines and help unify the lyrics.

2. Considering verse 1 and the first chorus together as a single song section, these last two lines of the chorus are the most powerful in the entire section. In this regard, these lines provide very effective lyric development.

3. The third purpose of these last two lines of the chorus is that they move the stoplight from being a purely personified object to a symbol that represents the ambivalence, joy, frustration of young love. Using metonymy in this way and taking an attribute of the (personified) inanimate stoplight and using that attribute to show the relationship between the two young lovers is a stroke of genius! Again, what great lyric writing!

My attempts at using personification seem to stop at the first technique. I've got a long way to go! You've inspired me to apply myself a little more enthusiastically to developing my ability in this area. Thank you for that!

I really enjoyed this song, floyd, and I greatly appreciate the lessons contained within it.

All the best,
Noel
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