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#178664 - 11/10/12 07:12 PM [User Showcase] "Random Trails"
Registered: 12/06/05
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Loc: 80 Mi North of Sacramento CA
seeker Offline

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Posts: 4047
Loc: 80 Mi North of Sacramento CA
Searching for 12-8 style for Danny to use I ran across this
great style. Added a solo to it.

Also created a new Melodist for it.

After some number of passes Brent and John came thru for me
once again.

Comments are encouraged.....

****** Song Summary *************
Title: RandomTrails

Key=D , Tempo 75, Length (m:s)=3:50
4 bar intro, 32 bar chorus, from bar 5 to bar 36. Repeat x2 choruses

Song is saved with Volume, Pan, Reverb, Chorus, Bank0,
Song is saved with bar changes for Volume Changes,
Style is _CT128BR.STY (Country12-8BrentElGuitSolo[65RS])

RealTracks in style: 533:Bass, Electric, 12-8 Crystal Sw 065
RealDrums in style: Nashville128^01-a:SideStick, b:Ride
RealTracks in style: ~526:Guitar, Acoustic, Fingerpicking Hank Sw 065
RealTracks in style: ~529:Guitar, Acoustic, Strumming Hank Sw 065

RealTracks in style: 1703:Guitar, Electric, Soloist Country12-8Brent Sw 065

RealTracks in song: 1884:Piano, Acoustic, Soloist Country12-8John Sw 065 (Bluesy)


Again used BIAB F5 for mute/activating parts, very happy with that function.

Rendered all tracks using BIAB.

Dragged file names from PC window into RB.
Did some amount of gain changes and cleanup there.
Been doing all fadein/outs on parts using RB.
Only using Audacity to convert to MP3 and also add meta data

PG Dynamics gain 3, default rest.
Sonitus Multiband using Medium Master preset.
Used Stereo expander with full presets.
Also used K-meter for final mix levels along with RB output meter.
Used RB mixer for bit of reduction in level for master output.

Sorta sad music....

Edited by seeker (11/10/12 07:14 PM)

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#178665 - 11/11/12 04:31 AM [User Showcase] Re: "Random Trails" WIP Video link. [Re: seeker]
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I downloaded a screen capture Demo from SnapIt.
Video finalized 11-11-2012.
If you click the 720p will be best for viewing.

BUT real reason was a response that puffed me up......
then the last line......ROFLMAO... sales gimmick I guess.

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Edited by seeker (11/11/12 02:27 PM)

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#178666 - 11/11/12 12:10 PM [User Showcase] Re: "Random Trails" WIP Video link. [Re: seeker]
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Antwort auf:

Sorta sad music....

It's November. That fits.
Nice mix.
Don't bother about the video comment.
Of course it's a sales gimmick.


#178667 - 11/11/12 04:14 PM [User Showcase] Re: "Random Trails" WIP Video link. [Re: boehm]
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Here are my thoughts listening through it for the first time:

With headphones on, the first thing I noticed was the stereo separation. Not a bad thing, just a bit of surprise. Perhaps a touch loud.

Once the song started, it was smooth sailing. Nice.

Without peeking, I'd guess the leads were live rather than RealTracks. (Peeking shows me wrong, so kudos for being freaking awesome).

When the guitar came in after the piano, it sounded a bit quiet in comparison.

Piano in the second time - yep, it's louder than comparison. A bit too loud in headphones for me.

Not much change on the drums for the last guitar entrance?

The end sort of tails off rather than finishes.

Other than the volume difference between the leads and the ending, it's all good.

Well done!
-- David Cuny
My virtual singer development blog

Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?

#178668 - 11/11/12 06:06 PM [User Showcase] Re: "Random Trails" WIP Video link. [Re: dcuny]
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Frank - nice! Great feel to this one. I kept waiting for Patsy Cline to start singing along. Any chance of that happening?

#178669 - 11/11/12 06:27 PM [User Showcase] Re: "Random Trails" WIP Video link. [Re: dcuny]
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seeker Offline

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I took the "sales" pitch to be what it was.
Thanks for compliments.


I do my mix with Audio Technica ATH-M40fs headphones primarily.
Then follow up with Monitor speakers, to make sure there is a
balance from phones to speakers.

I've been concentrating on making music interesting with the changes
in the instruments. In this process, apparently I've neglected
the overall entire track levels thru the entire song. Good points to make.

The Realtracks are awesome, glad you approved of their realistic sounds.
The Style itself is awesome. Had to do bit of research to help me
understand 12-8 timing. Its not a casual thing, but with PG tools,
helps a great deal.

Have been doing a lot of gain modifications to the Jazz pieces recently for
their changes. Did a lot of gain modifications on this, but did not pick up
on the on the neglected levels.

Will have to work more with drums for the changes. This is a bit
foreign to me. Know about the bar changes for sub-groups, but drum

Yes on the endings. Coda's are real enhancers there, used on couple
of songs, then got confused again.

BTW, I just bookmarked this thread, will call it up for next new work.

Appreciate your comments, I take them as a learning, or oh rats, should have
noticed that. You really had to listen closely to pick up on these.

Again thanks to you both!

Edited by seeker (11/11/12 06:33 PM)

#178670 - 11/13/12 06:43 PM [User Showcase] Re: "Random Trails" [Re: seeker]
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F.M.M. Offline

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hi seeker nice guitar sound and riffs i like the changes in the arrangement great job piano is a tad lounder then the rest of the song small potatoes though enjoyed very much thanks eric
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