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At any measure in a song, I can use F5 to get to the "Edit Settings for the Current Bar" pop-up. In that pop-up, under volume changes, I see that you can change the volume of a particular instrument within a range of -127 to 127.
My question is: is this absolute or relative to the volume the instrument is set at in the main mixer window? That is, if the main mixer window has the piano set at 90 and I set the "Edit current bar" setting to 115, is this the same as setting the mixer to CC7 115?
If this is absolute, what happens when I set the "Edit current measure" setting to "0" is that the same as CC7 "0"....no sound
What are the negative numbers for? CC7 can't be negative right?
If the settings are relative to the original setting of 90, how do I judge the impact of setting it somewhere in the -127 - 127 range?
I guess I don't understand what the range (-127 - 127) is allowing me to do.
Any help is appreciated.
Jeff
Last edited by MountainSide; 01/20/17 08:44 AM.
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My interpretation is that -127 == +127 works the same as a fader on a mixer with -0- being unity gain.
That means the -0- setting neither increases gain nor reduces gain. If you open that dialog and enter -0-, nothing happens. The volume remains the same.
Entering a positive number greater than -0- and the volume of that track increases proportionally relative to the size of the input number. Doing the same with a negative number decreases the volume proportionally the same. Change the gain from the normal setting by -127 fades to zero.
Last edited by Charlie Fogle; 01/21/17 03:04 AM.
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OK, Charlie, I think I understand where you're going with this.
So if I'm working with the piano track and the mixer window is showing an initial volume of 90 and I enter a -64 for the volume change using "Edit Settings for Current Bar" at a particular bar does that effectively drop the output volume to 45 from there forward?
Thanks for your help Charlie.
Jeff
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OK, Charlie, I think I understand where you're going with this.
So if I'm working with the piano track and the mixer window is showing an initial volume of 90 and I enter a -64 for the volume change using "Edit Settings for Current Bar" at a particular bar does that effectively drop the output volume to 45 from there forward?
Thanks for your help Charlie.
Jeff That's not what I found to be the case in testing. I soloed an acoustic strumming RealTrack with a mixer level of 90. Opening Bar settings, I generated the track with all settings normal so that Change By -0- = mixer setting of 90. After two bars at that setting, I used the Change By setting to -64 and the sound nearly disappeared. Returning to the mixer on the main screen, I changed the volume setting to 127. I regenerated the track at the setting of 127 and when the regenerated track go to the measure where I used Change By with the setting of -64. The sound nearly disappeared the same as with the main screen mixer setting of 90. This indicates to me that the bar setting Change By feature does not correlate to corresponding midi CC values. I use this setting to make changes in the volume of the track relative to the overall volume of the song. I change the volume by ear and adjust until the volume is at the relative volume in relation where I want that particular instrument to be placed in volume with the other tracks of the entire song. For instance, I may raise a guitar up in volume when it plays a solo and is considered the main focus of the song. At the end of the solo, I lower the volume back to it's original setting so at that point, the lead vocal as it comes back in, becomes the prominent sound in the mix. Charlie
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Right, that's what I'm finding too Charlie. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it...at least nothing consistent and predictive. Kinda a hit or miss kinda thing that you just have to play with. I'm OK with that too, just thought that there might be something behind the scenes that I was missing that would allow me to better dial in a track prior to regen.
Do appreciate your help and support here Charlie.
Jeff
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