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Tech support has confirmed that the file I sent them does what I describe below but while I am waiting for their solution I wonder if anyone else has had this problem.
It only started with 2017 and I am using all the latest patches.
When a song has at least 5 RT's I sometimes find that BIAB locks up when I freeze the song and hit play.
Any song with more than 5 RT's is even worse and nearly always locks up when frozen.
It NEVER happens if the song is not frozen and I can toggle between lockup/no lockup by freezing/unfreezing.
It happens on two different computers with ample resources even if I enable the "slow machine" options for RT's
I am running as administrator and have reset to factory defaults.
Perhaps someone could try to re-produce this problem - try with a song with 7 RT's to make it more likely.
Thanks
Tony
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Just playing a tune with 5 RTs. I froze all and no problem.....
Two things no one wants to hear:
1) Hit the return-to-factory settings button
2) Your file is corrupt
Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper
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Hey Tony,
I've had a similar problem with BIAB 2017. My computer will freeze up if I try and play any file with frozen Real Tracks. I've spoken with several folks at PG support and sent them a file that also freezes when they try and play it. I'm waiting for a response.
I've been using BIAB for 15+- years and have loved it. However, I've had more unexplained issues with 2017 than with any other release to date. Computer freezing, access violations, etc. Each new update patch seems to help, but all is still not running smoothly. Hoping things will get fixed!
P.S. I also always run "as administrator".
Good luck with your issues.
Frank
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Hey Tony,
I've had a similar problem with BIAB 2017. My computer will freeze up if I try and play any file with frozen Real Tracks. I've spoken with several folks at PG support and sent them a file that also freezes when they try and play it. I'm waiting for a response.
Frank Thanks for the response, it confirms that there is definitely an issue. Please, could someone else try playing a frozen song with 7 RT's and see if it locks up. I suggest 7 RT's because not every song locks up but it seems that the more RT's, the more likely to lock up. Thanks Tony
Last edited by Tony Wright; 01/28/17 08:57 AM.
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Tony, I just played a song many time with 7 frozen RTs and it played each time, i.e. no crashes. However I am using BiaB 2017 build 456. I have not had time to install build 457. What build are you guys using? Maybe I'll just stay where I am if the problem is with build 457.
Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up.
Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.
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Tony, I just played a song many time with 7 frozen RTs and it played each time, i.e. no crashes. However I am using BiaB 2017 build 456. I have not had time to install build 457. What build are you guys using? Maybe I'll just stay where I am if the problem is with build 457. I also played a song with 7 frozen RTs without issue. I'm on Windows 7 platform and 2017 BIAB build 457. I also experimented with 6 RTs and a loop, 7 RTs and an audio track without issue. That just means it does work without issue on some 2017.457 versions and is no help defining where others issues are coming from. Charlie
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I am using BiaB 2017 build 456. I have not had time to install build 457. What build are you guys using? Maybe I'll just stay where I am if the problem is with build 457. Charlie I had no freezes with Win10 and build 457, and 5 frozen, however, when I shut down it through several errors. I too have seen 2017 to be bit fit more finicky.
Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper
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I first reported the problem on 2nd January so I was using 456 at that time. It was the same with 457 and now with 458.
Another way to make it happen is to press "Generate and Play" with a frozen song.
Tony
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Tony,
Are any of the frozen RTs or Realdrums set to halftime, doubletime, tripletime?
Regards,
Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2024
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Not released yet, a pre-release test version only.
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Tony,
Are any of the frozen RTs or Realdrums set to halftime, doubletime, tripletime?
Regards,
Noel No, everything is single time Tony
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I'm having problems with multistyles in a song, maybe that's related.
Sometimes the styles are messed up, rarely it freezes the program.
Sergino
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