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Here we go again.

https://soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel/here-we-go-again

Here We Go Again
By David Snyder

V1

This world will teach you how to love
It will teach you how to cry
And it will teach you how to live
It will not teach you how to die
We come into this place alone
Not prepared for what is here
We drag around these broken hearts
And drink away our deepest fears

CH

And here we go again
And here we go again

V2

This world will make you fight for peace
While it steals all that you have
In constant motion you go running
To find your better half
We have such longing in our heart
We think we might just catch on fire
I wish they hadn’t made us so
To live as victims of desire

CH

But here we go again
Here we go again

Bridge:

Passion is all I to give
Though it’s crazy, I know, yeah I know
But it’s the only way to live, or forgive
Never say I didn’t tell you so

V3

You say you’ll teach me to endure
I say I’ll teach you to get by
You’ll say you’ll open up my heart
I say go ahead and try
You say that love’s the only test
Where the rules forever change
I say as long as we are here
We might as well just play the game

Ch:

And here we go again
Even if it’s just pretend
And here we go again
Even if it’s just pretend

All words and music copyright 2017 by David Snyder/ASCAP/Day of Faith Records

David Snyder, Lead and Backing Vocals, Electric Guitars, Piano, Strings, Synthesizers, Drum Machine.

Produced, Arranged, Mixed and Engineered by David Snyder


****** Song Summary *************

Title: Here We Go Again
Key=C , Tempo 90, Length (m:s)=3:59
Style is _DUBSRCK.STY (Alt Dubstep and Rock)

RealTracks in style: 2298:Bass, Synth, DanceRockBuzzBass Ev 120
RealTracks in style: 1742:Synth, Rhythm ModernDancePopRaveStringsHeld Ev 120
RealTracks in style: 1527:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PopPowerBrightClean Ev 120
Loop in Style: HipHop\Old School - gangstar_beat_95b ev16 quiet.wav
RealDrums in style: TechnoElectro^GH-a:HatSnap, b:Snap


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you do some interesting stuff, David!

You caught my attention right away with your intro.. that sort of thing is very common in some circles, but it doesn't show up here on the showcase very often... maybe because BIAB styles don't do that, so composers have to come up with their own way to create that sort of intro.

I found myself wishing for slightly longer sustain/reverb tails on the instruments in the intro... maybe because I was hearing as a dream sequence more than as a musical introduction.

I like the constant droning strings against which the other instruments voice their own chord changes....

I like the line "We drag around these broken hearts
And drink away our deepest fears", but all of the lyrics are interesting with their open-ended obscurity and untenable suggestion of profound meaning.

I also like the drum beat you picked for the presentation of this mood... for me it works very well. It is highly listenable, and it replays well too.

I haven't got my head wrapped around your style yet David, so I don't want to make comments that frame the wonderful Dylanesque organic quality you've achieved in a critical light... but to my sensibilities, it sounds like the key put the melody right at the critical point of your singing range. Having said that, I think singing at the edge of one's range can introduce an urgency to the presentation that simply does not happen when the range is easier to hit. Given the line about "Passion is all I to give
Though it’s crazy, I know, yeah I know" driving the key up to the critical point may have been a stroke of genius.

I like this song.

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David, this is fantastic. Great intro with a surprising verse and chorus rhythms, excellent job with that. Super vocal and outstanding lyrics.


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What a tune, David! The intro part of this song is incredible - when it drops in at 45 seconds, it captured my attention immediately. You can literally feel the emotion in this tune, I love it smile I especially like the mix, and how you chose a slightly unconventional type of drums for the song. It is not the drums I would have thought to choose for something like this, but the way it came through I don't think anything else would have fit better.

Thanks for sharing, you deserve to be proud of this one!


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Hey Thanks Pat,

Your comments are always so insightful. Some feedback:

1. Style. I don't know what my style is either. I am still working on that. All I know is I don't want to sound like anyone else. smile

2. BIAB as a tool kit. I know this does not sound like a pre-packaged BIAB piece given the weird psychedelic intro and all, but I merely see BIAB and Real Tracks as tools in a larger toolbox--albeit the most useful addition to the recording studio since the invention of the mixing board. My goal is to see how far I can take it.

3. Vocals and arrangement. Every sound here is intentional and planned. I did in fact push the envelope on the vox because I wanted them to be on the edge. You were right about that.

Other than that, I am really all about experimentation and emotion. Those are the two things that fascinate me.

Thanks for the feedback!!!

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Thanks Mario!!! I am really glad you liked it!! Great to hear from you man, Been a while!!! Hope you are great brother.

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Hey thanks Deryk,

I am really glad you liked it!! Yeah, those drums were a lot of fun.

smile

Still feel like I am only scratching the surface with BIAB and Real Tracks, but boy, what an adventure, eh??

Thanks for the kind words!!

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Great lyrics!

love them

Great sound!

wow, unique, original, awesome

such a cool song

Kenny

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Hi David,

Really good lyrics (with depth in them).
Although the electric guitar kind of dominates the song, it works very well.
Another one in a log row of very original compositions.

Rob and Anne-Marie


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This is definitely my favorite among your songs. Great intro and then the lead to the song with the loop rhythm gives kind of U2 feeling. The mood created with the instruments is really mesmerizing. But the best part: lyrics are fantastic, I think I have never heard anything so touching to tackle the question why we are here. "You say that love’s the only test Where the rules forever change I say as long we are here That we might as well just play the game", absolutely ingenious work smile This cries out for a video.

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David,

What I like, and professionally respect, about your music is your slightly off the beaten path originality. You're not afraid to throw a monkey wrench into the pool of traditional composition and dare someone to throw it back. This might sound odd because I don't know a better way to say it ... but your music is courageous.

Love the intro! And the lyric is the icing on this musical cake. Great lines and thought provoking.

Great stuff, David. I never know what to expect when I click onto one of your songs I;ve not previously heard ... and I like the element of surprise. It's kinda like Christmas - can't wait to open the package and see what's inside. Great stuff!

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Man! Your music always sounds so original, not something you can put a specific label on. And that's good!
Nice one, David, enjoyed the listen!

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David,

Excellent! Thought provoking and heartfelt... Great vocal and mix - love the rhythm and feel on this.

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"We drag around these broken hearts
And drink away our deepest fears"

What great lines. (reading back, I see that Pat noted them, as well)

"You’ll say you’ll open up my heart
I say go ahead and try"

Nice.

Terrific opening. Excellent arrangement. A production that is interesting throughout. Good mix. The vocal is "intense" - as the lyric suggest it should be.

This is a great listen.

I am loving your journey.

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Originally Posted By: David Snyder
Hey Thanks Pat,

you are quite welcome, my friend! One of these days I hope to venture into your part of NC so we can meet. It's kind of ironic that I've managed to meet lots of forum members in other states without meeting all the folks that live right here in NC!

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Your comments are always so insightful. Some feedback:

1. Style. I don't know what my style is either. I am still working on that. All I know is I don't want to sound like anyone else. smile


well then congratulations! Mission accomplished! I think you have done a masterful job of creating a signature sound


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2. BIAB as a tool kit. I know this does not sound like a pre-packaged BIAB piece given the weird psychedelic intro and all, but I merely see BIAB and Real Tracks as tools in a larger toolbox--albeit the most useful addition to the recording studio since the invention of the mixing board. My goal is to see how far I can take it.

I strongly agree with your view of BIAB as a tool in your toolbox... I hope my comment did not come across as a criticism, because it wasn't at all. My goal here is to listen and then make an honest effort to understand what you were trying to accomplish with any given song. Especially when a song writer steps outside the realm of what we expect from a song, that can lead to hard questions, probing for answers that relieve my cognitive dissonance. I hope that you and others who post here can read my comments with the assurance that no criticism is intended. I only want to understand you, and that sometimes requires me to tell you what I hear so you have a chance to clarify your intentions.


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3. Vocals and arrangement. Every sound here is intentional and planned. I did in fact push the envelope on the vox because I wanted them to be on the edge. You were right about that.


I think this is the mark of a seasoned song writer. Newbs tend to throw spaghetti against the wall to see what sticks... but more experienced song writers have a plan, and everything they add to the mix is part of that plan. When everything has been removed that isn't part of the plan, then the song is done. Trying to figure out the song writers plan is part of the fun. You (and others) put a lot of work into a song, and it's almost dismissive to write a short review (damnation by brevity).


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Other than that, I am really all about experimentation and emotion. Those are the two things that fascinate me.

Thanks for the feedback!!!

smile

I'd add that a love of experimentation is evident in your productions. That can be risky... not all experiments succeed. But I think yours consistently delve into new areas, and as a result, your songs don't fit into any cookie cutter bin. IMO, that is quite an accomplishment.

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Hey Pat,

You're good!! smile No offense taken at all and not seen as criticism at all. I always appreciate the great time and care you put into your thoughts.

Only one more comment. I think they mis-titled the product. They should call it "Band-Out-of-the Box."

What the program does for me is open up a constant stream of new ideas for reshaping all of the concepts I once had about what music or songs "should be." I now hear everything in terms of what "could be" and I am really only interested in the frontier. BIAB is kind of like my own personal little jetpack in that regard.

Now, I fully explained myself. All mysteries solved!!!


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Thanks Kenny!!

I am really glad you liked it. I have been loving your new stuff as well!!

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Thanks Rob and Anne-Marie! I really enjoyed your last one as well!

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Thanks Janne! That was very kind of you to say.

That REALLY made my day.

Maybe I will work on a video then!

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David, that was some great stuff!! That section starting at about 2:40 was very moving and inspiring to me! I appreciate your work and that's a fact!! Thanks, Torrey




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