Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
You need to be logged in to post
Options
Index
#424662 - 08/05/17 01:31 PM [User Showcase] BRIEF
Registered: 05/02/14
Posts: 3988
Loc: The Netherlands
RnAM Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/02/14
Posts: 3988
Loc: The Netherlands
BRIEF

With our upcoming Christmas gig in a couple months we were looking for a suitable melody and arrangement. The performance will take place in an elderly home.
We are both very big fans of Lawrence Oliver's Love Again. A gentle romantic song with a mood that is similar to what we were looking for.

Lawrence (Gruverider) gave us very kind permission to use his song in any way we'd see fit.
And we did ;-) Since we will be playing in front of a Dutch audience we wrote some Dutch lyrics for this. Next, we trimmed the song to about 3 minutes (original length 3.45) and changed the structure slightly.
Finally we added several harmony vocals.

Hope y'all like it and another big thanks to Lawrence!
For those looking for his original version, here it is.

Rob & Anne-Marie

ps, we don't have the working file, maybe Lawrence will post the RT's grin

Lyrics

Brief / Letter

Je schrijft, je schrijft me waar je nu bent, You’re writing me where you are now
Zo weinig mensen die je nog kent, There’s few people you still know
Dit is niet wat je voor je zag, This is not what you anticipated
of wat je had gewenst, or what you wished for
Buiten schreeuwt de storm, Outside the wind is howling
maar van binnen is het stil, but on the inside things are silent
De tijd die verstreek is vervreemdend soms, The time that went by, seems surreal at times
't Is iets dat niet meer went, Something you’ll never get used to
In deze tijd van 't jaar, This time of year
zijn and're mensen bij elkaar, other people are together
maar voor jou lijkt dat een eeuwigheid weg, to you that seems like a different world
zo anders dan vandaag, so different from today

Geen kinderen in de straat, No children in the streets
geen speelgeluiden meer, No more sounds of playing
Ach je weet het wel, maar 't is zo snel gegaan, Although you know, still it went so fast
die wereld van weleer, that world you used to know

Hij, hij was er altijd bij, He, he was always there
en de dingen die die zei, and the things he said
Ik laat je nooit meer gaan, I’ll never let you go
ik kan de wereld aan, I’m on top of the world
als je er voor me bent, as long as you’re there

En alle vrienden om jullie heen, And the friends that surrounded you
soms wel druk maar nooit alleen, crowded at times but never alone
En wat je'm nog graag zeggen wou, And what you still wanted him to know
M'n lief waar moet ik heen, My love where am I to go
Hier alleen, All alone

Ik schrijf, ik schrijf je 'n brief vandaag, I’m writing you a letter today
als antwoord op je vraag, to answer your question
Omdat ik weet dat jij er bent, Because I know you’re there
Zo weinig mensen die ik ken, There’s few people I still know
_________________________
We are Rob Meulman and Anne-Marie Bovenkamp from The Netherlands.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1gsdNLE7_Gy8qavoOplQow/videos
http://rnam.net/



Top
#424673 - 08/05/17 02:14 PM [User Showcase] Re: BRIEF [Re: RnAM]
Registered: 06/19/17
Posts: 2933
Loc: Victoria, BC
Ember - PG Music Offline
PG Music Staff

Registered: 06/19/17
Posts: 2933
Loc: Victoria, BC
This song is sooo beautiful! Would you then consider this a collaberation with Lawrence, then, seeing as it was their working file? I love the way Dutch sounds when spoken. <3 Amazing job, all of you.
_________________________
Cheers,
Ember

Top
#424688 - 08/05/17 03:31 PM [User Showcase] Re: BRIEF [Re: RnAM]
Registered: 06/28/06
Posts: 7176
Loc: Scottish Highlands
furry Offline
Veteran

Registered: 06/28/06
Posts: 7176
Loc: Scottish Highlands
Beautiful, would you consider doing an English version if it's possible ?

Top
#424694 - 08/05/17 03:54 PM [User Showcase] Re: BRIEF [Re: RnAM]
Registered: 12/06/03
Posts: 5145
Loc: Sydney Australia
PeterF Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/06/03
Posts: 5145
Loc: Sydney Australia
Rob & Ann-Marie

Lovely work on a great song - beautifully sung and wonderful harmonies.

Peter

Top
#424705 - 08/05/17 04:54 PM [User Showcase] Re: BRIEF [Re: RnAM]
Registered: 06/09/16
Posts: 3338
Robertkc Offline
Veteran

Registered: 06/09/16
Posts: 3338
Rob & Anne-Marie,

Tender lyrics supported by a lovely melody-the feeling translates
beautifully.
Its very interesting to hear you sing in Dutch (love the sound of those consonants!).
Excellent harmonies (as we`d expect) and the cello is perfect.
I`m thinking your Christmas audience is going to want more like this!

Robert

Top
#424730 - 08/05/17 08:58 PM [User Showcase] Re: BRIEF [Re: RnAM]
Registered: 12/10/09
Posts: 1193
Loc: Washington State
bluage Offline
Expert

Registered: 12/10/09
Posts: 1193
Loc: Washington State
Dear Mr. Meulman and Ms. Bovenkamp...

The lyrics for "Gruverider's" song seem rather melancholy in mood, but the musical arrangement almost dispels the sadness with a sound that is as pacific and quietly inspirational as an extended hand being grasped with silent gratefulness by someone in need.

On my first hearing of the song I did not bother to consult the translated lyrics because the words that form the countless languages spoken by the citizens of so many cultures in this world have their own emotional "codes" that can be unlocked by listening to the way they are expressed as well as by learning/knowing their literal meaning.

With that in mind, each of your alternately sung vocals and combined vocal harmonies convey enough feeling to leave no doubt in the listener's heart as to what the lyrics might be communicating to the mind. It's the sound of stillness, of the recollection of pain, and the hope of reconciliation.

"Brief" is a gorgeous, tentatively romantic song that seems to have been born in that space between light and darkness that all of us move into and out of at certain times in our lives, and that makes it something to re-visit no matter which side of that divide we happen to be standing on.

I'm not always comfortable using the word "art" because its meaning is as variable as the people who speak it, but if I was compelled to search for an example of it, I would certainly select the song, "Brief".

Sincerely,

LOREN


Edited by bluage (08/05/17 09:09 PM)
_________________________
"Music is what feelings sound like."-- borrowed from a Cakewalk Music Creator forum member, "Mamabear".

Top
#424762 - 08/06/17 06:46 AM [User Showcase] Re: BRIEF [Re: Ember - PG Music]
Registered: 05/02/14
Posts: 3988
Loc: The Netherlands
RnAM Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/02/14
Posts: 3988
Loc: The Netherlands
Thank you Ember,
Although not in the strict sense of the word this is a collaboration.
I can imagine how 'strange' the Dutch language must sound to people with an English language.
Since we usually write English lyrics (which I personally find easier to do), this took some work. The Dutch language has quite a lot of 'harsh' sounding words. We tried to avoid those wherever possible.

Thanks again!

Rob
_________________________
We are Rob Meulman and Anne-Marie Bovenkamp from The Netherlands.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1gsdNLE7_Gy8qavoOplQow/videos
http://rnam.net/



Top
#424770 - 08/06/17 06:58 AM [User Showcase] Re: BRIEF [Re: RnAM]
Registered: 08/29/14
Posts: 6892
Loc: North Carolina
David Snyder Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/29/14
Posts: 6892
Loc: North Carolina

Hey Rob and Anne-Marie!

This is really great. I am so glad to hear that Christmas will be here in October.

I always get sad when my wife forces me to take down the tree at Easter and can't wait to put it back up the day after Thanksgiving. Does this mean I can start getting the Christmas 2017 decorations out of the attic now??

smile

Love the lyrics and side by side translation!!

Top
#424811 - 08/06/17 12:03 PM [User Showcase] Re: BRIEF [Re: RnAM]
Registered: 07/15/12
Posts: 1831
gruverider Offline
Expert

Registered: 07/15/12
Posts: 1831
When I heard Rob and Ann-Marie's version, something happened that took me right back to the summer of 2007. Me and the woman I wrote the song about were looking for a house and shopping for rings, then suddenly the relationship fell apart. And although ten years have all but erased the pain, listening to Rob and Anne-Marie - their beautiful voices singing in Dutch- all of the emotions of that time came flooding back. And I sat there listening in tears. There is a magic in the emotion of language that transcends words.

I consider it a wonderful gift from them. For what are we if not our strengths and weaknesses, our joy and our pain.

Thank you Rob and Ann-Marie.

Here are the RealTracks:

891 piano, 1543 synth pad, 1856 Cello, 366 Bass, 380 Acu Gtr, 1761 Acu Gtr, 1038 Acu Gtr

RealDrums: NashvilleEven 8

Top
#424833 - 08/06/17 02:36 PM [User Showcase] Re: BRIEF [Re: RnAM]
Registered: 12/08/11
Posts: 7085
Loc: Edmonton, Ab, Canada
Scott C Online   content
Veteran

Registered: 12/08/11
Posts: 7085
Loc: Edmonton, Ab, Canada
Beautiful interpretation of Lawrence's song Vocal and lyrics were excellent. Just loved this song. Loved listening the lyrics even though I did not understand them To me it is so true what Dave said The emotions that n the music and the heartfelt delivery tells the story

Top
#424837 - 08/06/17 03:03 PM [User Showcase] Re: BRIEF [Re: RnAM]
Registered: 01/28/12
Posts: 3590
Loc: Murgon Queensland Australia
Rob4580 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 01/28/12
Posts: 3590
Loc: Murgon Queensland Australia
Perfect vocals and a wonderful melody.
Outstanding.
Rob

Top
#424866 - 08/06/17 06:52 PM [User Showcase] Re: BRIEF [Re: RnAM]
Registered: 07/11/15
Posts: 4836
Loc: United States
Torrey Bliss Offline
Veteran

Registered: 07/11/15
Posts: 4836
Loc: United States
Rob/Anne Marie, Everything you bring us is great and this is no exception! Beautiful on every level! Thanks, Torrey
_________________________


Top
#424899 - 08/07/17 01:09 AM [User Showcase] Re: BRIEF [Re: Torrey Bliss]
Registered: 12/29/12
Posts: 6370
Loc: Originally Missouri ... Now Al...
Al-David Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/29/12
Posts: 6370
Loc: Originally Missouri ... Now Al...
Originally Posted By: Torrey Bliss
Rob/Anne Marie, Everything you bring us is great and this is no exception! Beautiful on every level! Thanks, Torrey


I couldn't have said it better than Torrey did. Everything you pst is excellent in every way. This was such a joy to listen to.

As you know, I also speak German and the vague similarities in the languages allowed me to understand some of it without the translation.

This is just so pretty!

And lawrence was so gracious by allowing you to rework his song for your need. A tip of the hat to him for that.

Simply beautiful!

Alan
_________________________
BIAB 2022 Ultra Plus-all StylePaks*Win10*8GB DDR4*I5-6th Gen*AT 2035 Mic*Peavey Nashville 112 Amp*Ibanez ART120 Electric/Washburn D200S Acoustic*Stromberg Monterey Jazz Guitar

Loops: https://aldavidmusic.wixsite.com/bestmusicloops


Top
#424922 - 08/07/17 05:13 AM [User Showcase] Re: BRIEF [Re: furry]
Registered: 05/02/14
Posts: 3988
Loc: The Netherlands
RnAM Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/02/14
Posts: 3988
Loc: The Netherlands
Thank you Graham,

We could do an English version but we already compose the majority of our music in English. So singing in Dutch was a nice change.
Did you already listen to Lawrence's original version? You can find it in our post. It's truly beautiful!

Rob
_________________________
We are Rob Meulman and Anne-Marie Bovenkamp from The Netherlands.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1gsdNLE7_Gy8qavoOplQow/videos
http://rnam.net/



Top
#424939 - 08/07/17 07:46 AM [User Showcase] Re: BRIEF [Re: RnAM]
Registered: 11/19/12
Posts: 2360
Loc: Middletown, PA.
44kfl Offline
Veteran

Registered: 11/19/12
Posts: 2360
Loc: Middletown, PA.
Gorgeous song, super vocals

love the arrangement

thanks Lawrence for sharing your comments

and this great song

Kenny

Top
#424965 - 08/07/17 10:59 AM [User Showcase] Re: BRIEF [Re: RnAM]
Registered: 12/12/11
Posts: 3301
Loc: York, England
ROG Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/12/11
Posts: 3301
Loc: York, England
Hi Rob and Anne-Marie.

What a fabulous power ballad, but gentle and romantic at the same time.

My knowledge of Dutch is strictly limited (ha) but it didn't alter my enjoyment of this super track.

You're showing your versatility once again with one.

Great backing, great vocals, great mix.

Cheers, ROG.

Top
#425000 - 08/07/17 01:35 PM [User Showcase] Re: BRIEF [Re: RnAM]
Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 10773
Loc: Florida
floyd jane Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 10773
Loc: Florida
Rob & Anne-Marie,

Absolutely gorgeous.

Listening was a true joy.

floyd

Top
#425110 - 08/08/17 05:05 AM [User Showcase] Re: BRIEF [Re: PeterF]
Registered: 05/02/14
Posts: 3988
Loc: The Netherlands
RnAM Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/02/14
Posts: 3988
Loc: The Netherlands
Originally Posted By: PeterF
Rob & Ann-Marie

Lovely work on a great song - beautifully sung and wonderful harmonies.

Peter


Thank you Peter, appreciated!
_________________________
We are Rob Meulman and Anne-Marie Bovenkamp from The Netherlands.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1gsdNLE7_Gy8qavoOplQow/videos
http://rnam.net/



Top
#425112 - 08/08/17 05:47 AM [User Showcase] Re: BRIEF [Re: RnAM]
Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 12734
Loc: GA USA
Janice & Bud Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 12734
Loc: GA USA
Outstanding...RnAM interpreting a Gruverider song. Couldn't get much better.

floyd said it all: "Absolutely gorgeous. Listening was a true joy"

We also had the privilege of interpreting one of his tunes a couple of years ago. As Janice says his tunes are "so singable."

Great work!!

J&B
_________________________
J&B Videos
J&B Soundcloud
J&B Website

Top
#425116 - 08/08/17 06:23 AM [User Showcase] Re: BRIEF [Re: RnAM]
Registered: 02/15/17
Posts: 3414
Deryk - PG Music Offline
PG Music Staff

Registered: 02/15/17
Posts: 3414
Wow, RnAM - this is absolutely breathtaking! As others have said - it's a beautiful song. The vocal delivery and melodies are flawless.

Thanks so much for sharing!
_________________________
Cheers,
Deryk

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >


PG Music News
Band-in-a-Box® 2023 Italian for Windows is Here!

Abbiamo lavorato tanto e abbiamo aggiunto oltre 70 nuove funzionalità e una straordinaria raccolta di nuovi contenuti, tra cui MIDI SuperTracks, Studi strumentali, Performance di artisti "Brani con Voci", Xtra Styles PAK 14 e 15, RealTracks Set 2 riproducibili, RealDrums Set 1 riproducibili & 2, nuovi set di "Steli RealDrums" e altro! E altro ancora!

Tutti Pacchetti | Nuove Caratteristiche

Band-in-a-Box® 2023 French for Windows is Here!

Band-in-a-Box® 2023 c'est plus de 70 fonctionnalités nouvelles et des contenus inédits à savoir : des SuperTracks MIDI, des Etudes Instrument, des Prestations Artiste "avec voix", les Xtra Styles PAK 14 & 15, le Set 2 RealTracks Jouables, les Sets 1 & 2 RealDrums Jouables, de nouveaux Sets "Stems RealDrums" et bien plus encore...!

Tous Packages | Nouvelles Fonctionnalités

Band-in-a-Box® 2023 German for Windows is Here!

Wir waren fleißig und haben über 70 neue Funktionen und eine erstaunliche Sammlung neuer Inhalte hinzugefügt, darunter MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studien, Künstler Performances, "Song mit Vocals", Xtra Styles PAK 14 & 15, Wiedergebbare RealTracks Set 2, Wiedergebbare RealDrums Set 1 & 2, neue Sets von "RealDrums Stems" und mehr!

Paket | Was ist neu

User Tip - FL Studio VST in Band-in-a-Box®

If you haven't checked out our Forums yet, you definitely should! It's packed with enthusiastic program users, BETA testers, members of the PG Team, new Users, songwriters, and more!

And they're all happy to share their projects and program knowledge! Like the recent "musocity" post, FL Studio VST in BiaB, where they share how they render their projects using this setup - they even added a video!

PowerTracks Pro® Audio 2023 is Here!

There are over 20 new features added to PowerTracks, including MIDI Vocoder and Fix Tuning modes for Audio Harmonies, MicroChords (up to 4 chords per beat), Reverse Audio Effects, easy Tab key navigation on the Chords Window, smoother mouse wheel operation on the Tracks Window, and much more!

PowerTracks Pro® Audio can be yours for as little as $49! Already own an older version of PowerTracks? PowerTracks Pro® Audio 2023 upgrades start at just $29! Review the purchase options and order now.

Band-in-a-Box® 2023 for Windows is Better Than Ever!

If you're using Band-in-a-Box® 2023 for Windows, make sure you download the latest free update, which includes new and improved RealTracks and other Add-on content, adds the latest DAW Plugin version 5.1.25, updates the help files and PDF program manual, and applies a variety of feature updates based on program user feedback!

Learn more about everything included in this free update.

Update to Band-in-a-Box® 2022 Build 611 for Mac Today!

Are you using Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Mac? Download the latest update patch for added Ventura compatibility, updated dialogs, resolutions to user-reported program concerns, a fresh program manual, and more!

Learn more & download now.

Forum Stats
37292 Members
66 Forums
77709 Topics
690175 Posts

Max Online: 2537 @ 01/19/20 07:09 AM
Newest Members
DanGylez73, takashis, Hetu1234, aceofs, jazznutz

37292 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
MarioD 152
Jim Fogle 146
Rustyspoon# 138
musocity 123
Matt Finley 116
Janice & Bud 110
rayc 109
PeterGannon 104
David Snyder 99
justanoldmuso 90
Today's Birthdays
bassonjason