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Hello

I've installed BB on new machine with 1.6Ghz processor, 8Gb RAM.
But I've noticed audio stutter after playing a few songs. It happens randomly.
Even used external Audio Interface, shut down all unnecessary processes, but still has the problem.

So just asking if it could perhaps be Harddrive access?
Realdrums & Realtracks are on my C: drive

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What are you remaining specs? 1.6GHz what kind of processor? 8 GB RAM won't be your problem. Do you know what speed your hard drive is?

Does it stutter every time you play or just the first time? If just the first time, it could be the hard drive as BIAB continues to generate the remainder of the song as it starts to play. The second time through, the song has already been generated (assuming no changes were made), so no background generation occurs in that case.


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Short answer is yes, absolutely.

Lots of reasons.

As John said, tell us more. 1.6 is rather low nowdays, so I'm thinking laptop?

Several things to try, but start by addressing John's questions. Also download and run the free utility, Geekbench, and report the single-core score.

There is a setting in Options, Preferences, RealTracks to address the problem John cited. And there are other related settings, all without touching the operating system. But we need to know more.


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A few years ago, I had quite a lot of audio stuttering and it turned out that the culprit was a highly fragmented hard drive.

I ran Windows defrag over night and the next time I worked with audio, all the stuttering was gone.

I've also had an antivirus program cause stuttering. Because the av program was constantly checking, when working with audio, the computer was multitasking beyond its ability. When I excluded my audio-related and BIAB/RB-related folders from being checked by the av program, the stuttering stopped.





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Good idea. But since this is a new computer, it may have an SSD drive (which of course should not be defragged). We need more info.


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This might help, too...

Right-click on the chord sheet, select "Song Settings", and then activate the option that disables fast generation of Realtracks (see image below).

This forces all the backing to be generated before BIAB starts playing. It will take 30 seconds or so longer to generate a song but it could stop the stuttering.

Fast RT generation is a background process and uses significant computer resources. If the song you are playing is a fairly fast tempo, it might be that the tast generation cannot work quickly enough to stay ahead.

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By the way, the Belarc Advisor is a nice tool to find out exactly what the configuration of your computer is, as well as tell you its security posture. It's free to use and generates more than you'll ever want to know about your computer. It queries a lot of your system and comes back with a pretty detailed picture of processor, memory, hard drives, peripherals, video, audio, etc.


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Originally Posted By: jford
By the way, the Belarc Advisor is a nice tool to find out exactly what the configuration of your computer is, as well as tell you its security posture. It's free to use and generates more than you'll ever want to know about your computer. It queries a lot of your system and comes back with a pretty detailed picture of processor, memory, hard drives, peripherals, video, audio, etc.


Thanx for this John. I had never heard of it before and it looks like a good tool to have.


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HI everyone

thanks for the info:
My info:
Yes its a mini laptop &-inch Tablet PC
OS: Win10 Home
HDD: SSD drive 128Gb capacity
Processor: Intel Atom x7-Z8750 @ 1.6GHz
RAM: 8Gb
System: x64bit
Audio: Realtek

PC website: http://www.geekbuying.com/item/GPD-Pocket-7-Inch-Tablet-PC-Intel-Atom-X7-Z8750-8GB-128GB-375711.html


The song generation is all fine and plays well even with 4 realtracks loaded.

It just unexpectedly (during a gig) starts this "heart-beat" type audio stutter

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Yep second Belarc!


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Another thing is:

I ran another test with all system drivers loaded, firefox browser running, and put BIAB in Jukebox Mode, looping about 100 songs (each time new song generation)...no problem...but then at other times, unexpectedly, it does the audio stutter thing after just a few songs

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Below is some Belarc test Results:

Main Circuit Board b Board: AMI Corporation Default string Default string
Serial Number: Default string
Bus Clock: 80 megahertz
UEFI: American Megatrends Inc. 5.11 05/26/2017

Processor a 1.60 gigahertz Intel Atom x7-Z8750
224 kilobyte primary memory cache
2048 kilobyte secondary memory cache
64-bit ready
Multi-core (4 total)
Not hyper-threaded

Drives 124.11 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
9.57 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

Samsung DJNB4R [Hard drive] (125.07 GB) -- drive 0, s/n 7923fe24

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IMHO the tablet OS is the most likely issue.
Maybe the way it handles HDD or other resources but I'm guessing "Intel Atom" is part of the issue.

Mysterious problems like this are the most difficult to troubleshoot, but your posts do give some clues.
You're not working in a normal Windows environment compared to most users from what I can tell.

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OK, now we're talking real facts with the PC specs.

You don't even have a "harddrive" as in the post title. You have a solid state drive. This is great, the best thing about that PC by far! I suspect the problem lies elsewhere.

The Geekbench single-core score will reveal if the Atom CPU is adequate for BIAB.

In the meantime, go into Options, Preferences, Realtracks and find several checkboxes related to "slow PCs" and make those adjustments.

Did it come with a whole bunch of software preloaded? Blowing that away might help a lot.


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Just a few unnecessary programs...

Here is the Geekbench Score:

Single-Core Performance
Single-Core Score 634
Crypto Score 276
Integer Score 688
Floating Point Score 412
Memory Score 938

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Biab just plays from RAM, have you tried ASIO4All on the Realtek.

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That doesn't matter, Biab won't run well on an Atom processor. 634? That's barely half of the minimum needed. 10 year old Core Duo's still score in the 1100 range and that's about as low as you can go.

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RAM ... found with a lot of software that you need sufficient RAM, i went for 32 GB now, maybe an overkill, but (let alone for occasional windows issues itself) my win10 64bit PC runs smoothly with a lot of programs loaded at times. Also found this with a laptop some years ago. - F

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Yes, its a strange score...I have another tablet with same processor with a score of 1300..so this score of 634 seems strange..

And I found this info online from: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Atom+x7-Z8700+%40+1.60GHz

Intel Atom x7-Z8700 @ 1.60GHz
Average CPU Mark
Socket: BGA1380
Clockspeed: 1.6 GHz
Turbo Speed: 2.4 GHz
No of Cores: 4
Typical TDP: 4 W

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Could it also perhaps be related to the soundcard sample rate?

BB is at 44100 Samples..
My soundcard is set at 48000, and cannot be changed

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