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#42554 - 11/13/09 09:19 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] BIAB Windows
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Loc: Perth, Western Australia
Paul Young Offline
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Registered: 11/11/09
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Greetings all,
I've been working on a CD project using BIAB with a vocalist by the name of Norma Kelly, a well known country singer here in Perth Western Australia.
We have completed four songs of a twelve song project and I thought I would put one of the songs out there for comment. All of the instruments were generated in BIAB and then imported into Steinberg Nuendo 3 where the vocal was added and various VST's utilised. I don't have a web site as yet so I have posted the song on You Tube and it can be accessed via the link provided below. There is a slight reduction in quality in the process of uploading to You Tube
however the sound is fairly close to the original file. The song is called "If I Could Only Fly" and is a cover of a Merle Haggard/Willie Nelson song.
I would appreciate any feedback you may have as we all know this sort of thing is a huge learning process.

Best regards,

Paul

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7uijgwBrfU

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#42555 - 11/13/09 09:45 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Windows [Re: Paul Young]
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Hi Paul,
Welcome to the forum. You've done an excellent job with this song; the backing is great and Norma has a beautiful voice. I'll leave it to others with better ears than me to make any technical comments.
BTW, it's better to post music on the "Off Topic" forum, as this forum is generally for issues related to the product itself.
Again, well done mate.
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#42556 - 11/13/09 09:48 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Windows [Re: Paul Young]
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Wow, all I can say is "very nice". That was a treat to listen to. Norma has a great country voice.
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#42557 - 11/13/09 09:53 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Windows [Re: Paul Young]
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Brallan Offline
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Hello, Paul:

This is very nice work, and a truly professional application of our beloved software. I would not fault the mix in any way, and it's a great song by a great vocalist -- you should sell some records.

I would suggest, however, some thought to dynamics. As you know, pro recordings (read: 'commercial') have, for a long time, relied on increasing volumes, complexity, accents, and modulations as the song progresses. This track is very nice all the way through, but that may be a problem -- it's pretty much the same, all the way through. It kind of lacks dynamics. Now maybe that's exactly what you are going for, being as this is a Willie tune, but if I were producing it (I emphasize that I am not a producer), I might consider a couple of things.

I was looking for a key modulation for the final verse, like so many pop and country ballads. Your singer is great, and it sounds like she had a much wider range than is being used here, and could crank up the pitch a half or a full step. This should be easy to do with BB.

Along with that, she seemed to be sort of laying back -- she sounds like the kind of singer that can really belt it out in a club, and some of that would have been nice as the songs builds toward a climax.

In the same vein, I was also looking for some increasing dynamics in the instrumentation -- some heavier pickup percussion -- tom toms, cymbals, whatever fits, and perhaps increasing drama or addition of other instruments as well.

Realize that these are thoughts about taste, and more than that, about what seems to sell, commercially. Take it with a grain of salt. All in all, this is really really nice.

By the way, Paul, are you the same Paul Young that made that great recording several years ago about the woman who habitually shoplifted at the butcher shop, "Every time you go away, you take a piece of meat with you."?

Best,
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#42558 - 11/13/09 10:14 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Windows [Re: Paul Young]
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Quote:


The song is called "If I Could Only Fly" and is a cover of a Merle Haggard/Willie Nelson song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7uijgwBrfU




Never heard this tune before, but could definitly hear Willie and Merle singing along. Great sound, thanks for sharing.
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#42559 - 11/14/09 08:54 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Windows [Re: MusicStudent]
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Paul Young Offline
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Thanks to all you guys for taking the time to comment ...it does the heart good to know I'm heading in the right direction thanks to
such a fantastic software package. It allows the average Joe to express their musical creativity and to share that with others around the world....AMAZING!!!!.
With the help of a friend I will soon have a simple web site up and running and I will post more songs on that site as the project progresses.
Once again thanks for your interest and support.

Regards

Paul

By the way, Paul, are you the same Paul Young that made that great recording several years ago about the woman who habitually shoplifted at the butcher shop, "Every time you go away, you take a piece of meat with you."?

PS.....Brad No that wasn't me and I think you've been watching too much Monty Python.........great line!!!!!

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#42560 - 11/15/09 03:07 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Windows [Re: Paul Young]
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PeterGannon Offline
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Hi Paul,
Welcome to the forum. Nice arrrangement and great singing by Norma!

I was in Perth last winter - wow, what a great city! Do you know a pedal steel player named Milton Quackenbush? If so, say hello to him from me.
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#42561 - 11/16/09 07:29 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Windows [Re: PeterGannon]
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Loc: Perth, Australia
tonymoloney Offline
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Loc: Perth, Australia
Hi Paul.
Great to see another BIAB user in Perth.
What suburb are you in? I live in the RAAFA retirement village at Merriwa.
Are you gigging anywhere?
Tony
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#42562 - 11/16/09 08:06 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Windows [Re: Paul Young]
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Danny C. Offline
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Paul,

Another welcome to the forum and more kudos on a job well done. This is great effort by all involved, starting with a great song well produced and mixed then topped off with Norma's wonderful interpretation.

A very easy listen.
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#42563 - 12/02/09 08:29 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Windows [Re: PeterGannon]
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Loc: Perth, Western Australia
Paul Young Offline
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Registered: 11/11/09
Posts: 19
Loc: Perth, Western Australia
Hi Peter,
Thanks for your comment it is much appreciated. Of course it all comes down to the great software you guys have been working on all these years.
It never ceases to amaze me how small the world has become.....Norma has been working with Milton off and on for two years or so, both live gigs and recording so she knows he and his family very well. Rest assured your message will be passed on!!
Keep up the great work at PG Music and I'm sure we can all look forward to great things in the future.

Best regards,

Paul

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#42564 - 12/02/09 08:36 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Windows [Re: tonymoloney]
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Paul Young Offline
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Registered: 11/11/09
Posts: 19
Loc: Perth, Western Australia
Hi Tony,
Thanks for the feedback and in answer to your question I live just a few minutes away in Wanneroo. If you would like to chew the BIAB fat Email me
at paulyoung@dodo.com.au

Regards,

Paul

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#42565 - 12/03/09 09:19 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Windows [Re: Paul Young]
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Loc: Hudson Valley & Lake George NY
Matt Finley Offline
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Hi Paul. Just a suggestion: go back and edit your post to spell out your email or otherwise disguise it from the spiders searching for spam targets. Example: paul young one word at ...

We also have PM capability here (private messages) on this forum. Good for sending email addresses.
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Notation Enhancements in Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows!

There are Notation Enhancements in the NEW Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows! These include:
•A new button in the Print Options dialog which lets you quickly print a "chords only" fake sheet. You can also access this from the right-click menu on the chord sheet.
•A new track type (Drums) is now available for The Melody and Soloist tracks.
•Clicking close to a stave line will put a note on the stave line instead of between stave lines. (Previously, you had to click extremely close to a stave line to insert a note on The line.)
•Double-clicking on the Standard mode Notation window (or on the time line in Editable or Staff Roll mode) plays the song from the current time location. Previously, it played the song from the beginning of the current bar.
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•You can now edit any track in the Event List Editor. When The dialog opens, it will show you the MIDI data in the current Notation track.
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We talk about these new features within our Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows®! New Features, RealTracks, and other content! video:
25:45 - New Features: Easy Entering of Notation with the 'N' Key
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37:15 - Easier Entry of Notes on Lines
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37:53 - Force Accidental from the Right-Click Menu
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