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#430212 - 09/18/17 11:06 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Band-in-a-Box® - Save as a Video!
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A feature added with our Band-in-a-Box® 2015 release was the option to Save as Video. This feature is easy to use! When you're ready to save your song within Band-in-a-Box®, choose "Save as Video..." and adjut the settings if you'd like, then choose [OK - Render Video]. Once it's rendered, you can select the [Upload to YouTube], or take a look at your video first when you choose [Show Video File]. You can also choose to open this video file up in a different video program - it's your video file!

What does the video show? The chordsheet within Band-in-a-Box® just as you'd see it when the song is playing - don't worry though, the rendering of the song to video is MUCH FASTER than the duration of the song!

To see this in action, visit THIS LINK for our Support video.

Have you made your own video using this feature? Share it here!
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#430381 - 09/19/17 08:05 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Save as a Video! [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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This is a great feature, and I'd love to see it extended to notation.
I'm a sax player, and it would be great to be able to read transposed dots while the backing is playing. I posted this on the wishlist a while back.
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#430387 - 09/20/17 01:13 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Save as a Video! [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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I have never quite understood what this feature is good for? Why would I upload a video like this to YouTube? The only thing I can think of is to use as a visual guide for playing along...kind of a musical karaoke for several players to follow along with. Is there some other benefit to this that I have not figured out?

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#430417 - 09/20/17 08:08 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Save as a Video! [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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J3, I think you answered your own question.

It can also be used for folks to concurrently see and hear what's going on in a song chord-progression-wise.
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#430468 - 09/20/17 06:56 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Save as a Video! [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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The feature also allows you to upload a song to YouTube without having to personally create a video.
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#430476 - 09/20/17 09:30 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Save as a Video! [Re: Mike Laatz]
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Originally Posted By: Mike Laatz
This is a great feature, and I'd love to see it extended to notation....


+1 and Big Lyrics/chord window.

There's a free avi to mp4 converter here to convert the very large avi to smaller mp4 video:

Biab Songs On iPad/Tablets
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#431097 - 09/25/17 04:18 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Save as a Video! [Re: Pipeline]
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What a great feature. And what a wonderful job of explaining the applications,
not the least of which is the collaborative, especially the part about muting tracks for the instruments and distributing copies to the band members, and as a learning and teaching tool.
I have been using screen recordings of Baib for a few years, now, and have found them very useful in on-line instruction. This new Baib feature sends that application into the stratosphere, as, now, the interface can be posted and distributed like never before.
You might think I'd have something to add; but, no, you guys have it covered, and more. Great future for Baib, to augment its illustrious past!
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#431325 - 09/26/17 03:08 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Save as a Video! [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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I'm glad Callie brought this up.
I wanted to see if anyone else is having problems with it.

I'm running BIAB 2017 (467) on a Windows 10 Home machine.
The problem I'm having (and have had for the past couple of versions of BIAB)
is that if I just want to create a video, and not post it on Youtube,
it doesn't seem to co-operate.

Here's my test:

1. In a new instance of BIAB, go to File > Open and navigate to the bb folder
2. Scroll down the list past all the folders and open the first .mgu file !BYRDQRT
3. Change the number of choruses to 1, just so it isn't so long
4. Click the Save As icon and select the "Save as Video" choice
5. Leave all the boxes to their defaults and click OK - Render Video
6. When it has finished, click Show Video File, then double click the file

Mine opens in a default player called "Films & TV", and contains only audio,
but when I open it in any of 2 or 3 other players, the AVI file doesn't show the entire song, only a portion.

If anyone has time to see if they can replicate this, I'd appreciate it.
I chased it around last winter with the PG Support team, to the point that they even sent me a test file, which I still can't get to work.

Help!
Thanks!
LLOYD S

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#431327 - 09/26/17 03:16 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Save as a Video! [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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I have a similar issue that the video does not show the entire screen. Only about 3/4 screen, the first 20 bars. I have found that selecting the scroll ahead option does advance the hidden bars...
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#431330 - 09/26/17 03:34 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Save as a Video! [Re: Lloyd S]
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Originally Posted By: Lloyd S
..

Mine opens in a default player called "Films & TV", and contains only audio,
but when I open it in any of 2 or 3 other players, the AVI file doesn't show the entire song, only a portion..


Can you try it with the converter from the above post
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Video/Encoders-Converter-DIVX-Related/Free-AVI-to-MP4-Converter.shtml

or try https://www.codecguide.com/download_k-lite_codec_pack_mega.htm
when you install KLite it will give a right click "MediaInfo"


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MediaInfo.jpg


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#431355 - 09/26/17 07:37 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Save as a Video! [Re: Pipeline]
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Originally Posted By: Pipeline

+1 and Big Lyrics/chord window.

+100 !
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#431359 - 09/26/17 08:06 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Save as a Video! [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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I posted this black screen problem on the other thread. Definitely an issue in Windows 10.
http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=430957#Post430957


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#431404 - 09/27/17 10:33 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Save as a Video! [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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Pipeline:

I don't mind trying some converters to get the AVI file down to MP4 size.
However, what I'm trying to establish is, does the BIAB "Save as Video" function, work as advertised, or does it need to be fixed, for those who want a video, but don't necessarily want to post it to Youtube.

If you and Charlie have both tried the non-youtube process and it works for both of you using my method above, then either I'm doing something wrong or there's a glitch in the BIAB program.

Thanks!
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#431417 - 09/27/17 12:23 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Save as a Video! [Re: Lloyd S]
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No, sorry, I don't have Win10 anymore as I upgraded to Win7.

I would just try the converter to mp4 and see if you get the video first. The Mac versions saves straight to mp4.
If the uploaded avi won't show on Win10 but shows on youtube then it's just a codec issue.
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#431422 - 09/27/17 12:45 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Save as a Video! [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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No, sorry, I don't have Win10 anymore as I upgraded to Win7.


I did the same thing on my laptop after Windows 10 developed an unrecoverable blue screen (after having using it with Windows 10 for almost a year). I much later figured out what the problem was and know what to do now, but haven't gone back. That being said, my two desktop machines are on Windows 10.


I agree...if it works with YouTube, but not locally, then it is a Codec issue.
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#431427 - 09/27/17 02:19 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Save as a Video! [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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I am hesitant to set up a YouTube account just to do a little testing.
I was hoping that someone running Win 10 would be able to try the non-youtube function to see if they get the same unusable results.

If it's a Codec issue, then it's a BIAB issue.
BIAB should include, and use, a working Codec when you click the "Show Video File" button, or at the very least, inform you that you don't have the correct Codec and offer to send you to the appropriate website to get it.

Thanks all !!
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#431447 - 09/27/17 05:38 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Save as a Video! [Re: Lloyd S]
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Try a media player with it's own built-in codes like SMPLAYER

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#431475 - 09/28/17 05:37 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Save as a Video! [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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Pipeline:

That just may work, but it doesn't address the underlying problem.

Thanks!
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#431477 - 09/28/17 06:05 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Save as a Video! [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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HI

The normal windows Media Player works for me on windows 7

However it wont play if BIAB is still using the file you need to exit the song in Biab, or close the program having made a note of where BI|AB saves the video file.

Almost any free media player will play these files including VLC it is a fairly common codec most media players will play by default as one of the possible AVI codec types.

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#431502 - 09/28/17 08:05 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Save as a Video! [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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Mike:

I tried your tip of closing BIAB before playing the .AVI file and that works in both Windows Media Player and VLC
HOWEVER
it only DISPLAYS the first couple of lines (8 bars), then the sound continues but the graphic is just a black background.
All this is, again, using Win 10.

I'll try Charlie's idea of using "scroll ahead" and see if that makes a difference.

Thanks for your help!
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