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#431818 - 09/30/17 06:34 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Couldn't open wave device - message and a playing styles question [Re: GT40John]
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Originally Posted By: GT40John
To all,

I downloaded the ASIO driver and it's on the laptop ready for the next time I work on BiaB. I'll let you know if it works for getting rid of that message "Couldn't open wave device."

Big thanks to all on this forum. Your help and enthusiasm is quite wonderful.


John,

Thanks for posting the screenshot. It helps a lot.

Looking at your setup, the program should be running. Also, for what it's worth, BIAB is much friendly with MME than ASIO so it's likely that the ASIO drive might not solve the problem.

Try this as an experiment and see if it helps...

When you start up BIAB, rightclick on the startup icon and select "Run as administrator".

Also, when you installed the program, which option did you choose?

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#431824 - 09/30/17 11:17 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Couldn't open wave device - message and a playing styles question [Re: Noel96]
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Originally Posted By: Noel96
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Well picked up Trevor! That completely eluded me.

Ha, Noel. Don't worry, I've been caught before (more than once). That's why I took a guess on the text.
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#431825 - 09/30/17 11:18 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Couldn't open wave device - message and a playing styles question [Re: Noel96]
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Noel,

I started BiaB. I then right clicked on the PC start icon.

I only see 2 things: Properties AND Open windows explorer.

I don't see "Run as administrator"
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#431827 - 09/30/17 11:24 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Couldn't open wave device - message and a playing styles question [Re: GT40John]
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Originally Posted By: GT40John
Noel,

I started BiaB. I then right clicked on the PC start icon.

I only see 2 things: Properties AND Open windows explorer.

I don't see "Run as administrator"

You don't see this when you Right-click on the desktop icon?


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#431828 - 09/30/17 11:25 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Couldn't open wave device - message and a playing styles question [Re: Noel96]
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I think it's supposed to be Right-Click (!) (Unless the mouse buttons are swapped.)
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#431829 - 09/30/17 11:30 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Couldn't open wave device - message and a playing styles question [Re: VideoTrack]
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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
I think it's supposed to be Right-Click (!) (Unless the mouse buttons are swapped.)


Thanks Trev. My brain seems to be in topsy-turvy land today... it must be yesterday's grand final.

I've removed my above (and very incorrect) post so as not to muddy the waters.

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#431830 - 09/30/17 11:38 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Couldn't open wave device - message and a playing styles question [Re: VideoTrack]
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Also can set here, right click > Properties:


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#431842 - 10/01/17 06:49 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Couldn't open wave device - message and a playing styles question [Re: Pipeline]
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2 things I did.

1) I thought you meant the "Start" icon for the Windows PC at bottom left of desktop. My bad!

2) I had opened BiaB and didn't see the "Run Administrator". So I right clicked on the BiaB start icon (with BiaB still closed) and NOW I SEE "Run Administrator".
It asks if I want to make changes to the computer with BiaB.


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#431843 - 10/01/17 06:59 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Couldn't open wave device - message and a playing styles question [Re: GT40John]
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Allow it to make changes... that's what running in Administrator mode is about. BIAB is safe to run in Admin mode.

The aim is to see if running in administrator mode makes a difference. PG Music recommend that BIAB should be run in this mode... it needs to be tested on your computer.

Once you have BIAB running in Administrator Mode, use the program exactly as you would normally and see if the problems still arise.
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#431846 - 10/01/17 08:05 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Couldn't open wave device - message and a playing styles question [Re: GT40John]
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I just re-read this thread. I think we are running John unnecessarily through the wringer here.

I agree about Running BIAB as Administrator, which is recommended, cannot do harm, and in some cases is required.

The initial post describes symptoms of BIAB being flaky, but remember, it DID work once. That makes me think all this about drivers is taking us off target.

John, the first thing we do when BIAB was behaving fine but starts acting up, it to reboot the machine and restart BIAB. Obviously, you must have done this many times since your initial report.

The second thing we do is go to the Options menu and do Return to Factory Settings. You can save any custom settings as you do this.

Then close BIAB, reboot and restart. Report back.

If it still has the same problem, I would like to resume the discussion about the audio device. We still do not know what is being used.

If that doesn't pan out, then I'm thinking John should reinstall the program.

And there is always PG Music Support. They are superb. They can even remote-connect to your computer to help diagnose a problem. To get to them, click on the gray Support tab up above. Almost all of us in this forum are fellow users; we're pretty good, but not the ultimate resource.
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#431848 - 10/01/17 08:27 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Couldn't open wave device - message and a playing styles question [Re: Noel96]
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Hey guys,

You might have taken care of the problem! I did "Run Administrator" in BiaB.

I've then tried a lot of changes and I haven't seen the message [“MESSAGE: Couldn't open wave device. The likely cause is another program is using the audio playback, or has left drivers open.”] come up at all. Not even once. That's good and I hope it stays that way.

A BIG THANK YOU!


I still have the other question about stopping a style change when playing (on the Chordsheet).
My goal is simply to compare the styles for the song.

Here's what I do:
1) Open my song and play it (to listen to the style) / then I click stop. The song stops.
2) I go to Style Picker and select another style (listening in “Quick” mode – not chords of song)
3) When I find a style I like, I select it at “Play using current Chordsheet for song”
4) The chordsheet appears and plays the song using that newly chosen style. But it keeps playing.

QUESTION: How can I stop the song from playing without going to Task Manager?

None of the icons respond (including the STOP icon). The song plays to the end then starts all over again. This happens even with the “4 bar preview” [“Play using current Chordsheet for song”] selected at Style Picker”.

So far, I've only been able to stop the play by going to Task Manager, to End Process {T.M. only shows one process open for BiaB]. Otherwise it'll go on playing forever.
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#431853 - 10/01/17 10:36 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Couldn't open wave device - message and a playing styles question [Re: GT40John]
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Your result for your second question is not normal behavior for that function. Something is amiss.

If you choose either the demo or the play over your chord chart button, the screen should not go back to the chord chart. (Number 4 on your list) It should remain on the Stylemaker page and either stop button should stop the playback. You can return to the chord chart page selecting either the OK or Cancel button. Back on the Chord chart page, you can change anything--- key, tempo instruments, chords, etc.

I recommend you reset the default settings.

Options/Return to Factory Settings and then restart the computer.






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#431855 - 10/01/17 11:05 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Couldn't open wave device - message and a playing styles question [Re: GT40John]
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What he said.

And that's great Run as Administrator worked (so far).
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#431860 - 10/01/17 12:36 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Couldn't open wave device - message and a playing styles question [Re: Charlie Fogle]
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Charlie, All,


I reset the default settings and restarted the PC. Everything seems to work correct now. It's probably time to close out this post. smile


Thank you,

John

PS. There is a longtime BiaB forum member that lives just 20 minutes from me. He said he would be glad to meet with me and show me some BiaB tips & tricks.
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#431871 - 10/01/17 04:20 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Couldn't open wave device - message and a playing styles question [Re: GT40John]
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Excellent. Till next time, then.
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#431960 - 10/02/17 07:56 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Couldn't open wave device - message and a playing styles question [Re: GT40John]
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Another possibility is to update your RealTek audio driver to the latest version. Be sure to download the appropriate driver for your operating system.

Choose the "High Definition Audio CODECs" link, accept the disclaimer and click "Next". Then select the appropriate driver to download.


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#431964 - 10/02/17 08:20 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Couldn't open wave device - message and a playing styles question [Re: GT40John]
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Nice. John, would that then give you an ASIO choice for the Realtek?
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#431969 - 10/02/17 08:51 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Couldn't open wave device - message and a playing styles question [Re: GT40John]
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Nope, because the RealTek doesn't have a native ASIO driver. However, I have successfully used ASIO4ALL with the RealTek on two different machines.

Also, if you happen to have purchased any Steinberg products, you get a generic low latency ASIO driver from them as well, which also works with the RealTek.
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