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#434583 - 10/21/17 11:59 PM [User Showcase] Lonely Night (Modern Pop Country)
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Lonely Night

This song was inspired by another forum conversation about wether BIAB can create modern sounding music. I created this to prove that it is possible with the right combination of real tracks, MIDI and VST instuments. I used 3 real tracks on this song for bass, acoustic guitar and resonator guitar. I exported those to my primary DAW (Cubase). I also exported the MIDI drum track from BIAB to use with Groove Agent (a VST Drum instrument). I then added 3 diferent synths using Xpand 2. After recording vocals I doubled the track twice and added different reverb effects to each one before cutting and mixing together to get different effect in the verse and chorus sections.

Real Tracs Used
388 Bass, Electric, Metal
362 Guitar, Acoustic, Strumming
408 Guitar, Resonator, Background

Tempo 94 bpm
Key of Em

Lyrics:

Just another lonely night on the streets of Montgomery
I can still taste your kiss. Oh, It tastes as sweet as honey.
But the way out left me here, well you know it ain’t that funny.

All our old familiar friends, they turn away when I walk by.
Don’t want to talk to me. Can’t even look me in the eyes.
Act like I’m the one to blame. They must have bought into your lies.

Oh it’s a lonely, lonely, lonely night tonight.
And you’re the only one that’s on my mind.
Even though you’ve done me wrong your always on my mind.

Thinking back it’s clearer now, you know you always were quite cunning
Telling all your little lies, the way you played me was quite stunning.
Now your gone and something’s telling me that I should have seen it coming

Oh it’s a lonely, lonely, lonely night tonight.
And you’re the only one that’s on my mind.
Even though you’ve done me wrong your always on my mind.


Edited by Samuel Davis (10/22/17 12:00 AM)
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#434586 - 10/22/17 12:06 AM [User Showcase] Re: Lonely Night (Modern Pop Country) [Re: Samuel Davis]
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Samuel, you certainly delivered what you intended to achieve.

The choice of a minor key absolutely suits the song, and the driving beat throughout gives the perfect edge.

All wrapped up with a fantastic vocal.

The lyrics shine, and especially the chorus.

Yes, you have achieved. This is extremely high quality.
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#434587 - 10/22/17 12:12 AM [User Showcase] Re: Lonely Night (Modern Pop Country) [Re: Samuel Davis]
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Hey Samual,

Great Job!!!

This is as commercial as what's on contemporary country radio. That was quite a process you went through. But holy smokes ... what a result! Great tracks and a fantastic lyric. Your vocal shines - marvelous. The arrangement is stellar and leads the way with a vibrant mix.

Should be on country radio!

Congrats on a job well done.

Alan

PS: Five minutes is long for a country song but I didn't even notice - sad when it ended.


Edited by Al-David (10/22/17 12:14 AM)
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#434593 - 10/22/17 12:29 AM [User Showcase] Re: Lonely Night (Modern Pop Country) [Re: Al-David]
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Originally Posted By: Al-David
Hey Samual,

Great Job!!!

This is as commercial as what's on contemporary country radio. That was quite a process you went through. But holy smokes ... what a result! Great tracks and a fantastic lyric. Your vocal shines - marvelous. The arrangement is stellar and leads the way with a vibrant mix.

Should be on country radio!

Congrats on a job well done.

Alan

PS: Five minutes is long for a country song but I didn't even notice - sad when it ended.


Thank you for the kind words. Yes it was a bit of a process and that's what we had been discussing in the other forum. To get a really modern sound you cant just rely on BIAB's real tracks. You have to mix it with synths and electronic drum kits to get that modern pop feel. I actually enjoyed the pocess and look forward to doing more traks like this.
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#434599 - 10/22/17 12:42 AM [User Showcase] Re: Lonely Night (Modern Pop Country) [Re: Samuel Davis]
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Hey Samuel. Your efforts really paid off with this one.
Very modern sounding and well mixed.
Good work.
Rob

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#434603 - 10/22/17 12:49 AM [User Showcase] Re: Lonely Night (Modern Pop Country) [Re: Samuel Davis]
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Originally Posted By: Samuel Davis
Originally Posted By: Al-David
Hey Samual,

Great Job!!!

This is as commercial as what's on contemporary country radio. That was quite a process you went through. But holy smokes ... what a result! Great tracks and a fantastic lyric. Your vocal shines - marvelous. The arrangement is stellar and leads the way with a vibrant mix.

Should be on country radio!

Congrats on a job well done.

Alan

PS: Five minutes is long for a country song but I didn't even notice - sad when it ended.


Thank you for the kind words. Yes it was a bit of a process and that's what we had been discussing in the other forum. To get a really modern sound you cant just rely on BIAB's real tracks. You have to mix it with synths and electronic drum kits to get that modern pop feel. I actually enjoyed the pocess and look forward to doing more traks like this.


Hope you do some more ... looking forward to it!
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#434626 - 10/22/17 05:28 AM [User Showcase] Re: Lonely Night (Modern Pop Country) [Re: Samuel Davis]
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Hi Samuel
This is great. Sounds like James Blunt. Definitely modern in my book. Well done.

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#434641 - 10/22/17 08:19 AM [User Showcase] Re: Lonely Night (Modern Pop Country) [Re: Samuel Davis]
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Man I love this.

You have proved your point!!!

smile

Great job.
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#434647 - 10/22/17 08:50 AM [User Showcase] Re: Lonely Night (Modern Pop Country) [Re: Samuel Davis]
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I like this a lot. Sparce, Light, Less-is-more. And great vocal tone.
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#434662 - 10/22/17 10:00 AM [User Showcase] Re: Lonely Night (Modern Pop Country) [Re: David Snyder]
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Originally Posted By: David Snyder
Man I love this.

You have proved your point!!!

smile

Great job.


Thanks David. Glad you started that other forum tread. It's really inspired me.
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#434663 - 10/22/17 10:01 AM [User Showcase] Re: Lonely Night (Modern Pop Country) [Re: MusicStudent]
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Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
I like this a lot. Sparce, Light, Less-is-more. And great vocal tone.


Yes sometimes less is more. I might experiment with addins some sparse electric guitar to it but it holds its own as is.
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#434671 - 10/22/17 11:02 AM [User Showcase] Re: Lonely Night (Modern Pop Country) [Re: Samuel Davis]
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Originally Posted By: Samuel Davis
Yes sometimes less is more. I might experiment with addins some sparse electric guitar to it....


Don't do it! That is a trap all us BIABers fall into. So many musicians at our beckon call, that we tend to try to get everyone on the stage. The first think I noticed in arrangement was

Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
Sparce, Light, Less-is-more.


That made the piece very distinctive to my ear. I liked it just the way it was. grin
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#434679 - 10/22/17 12:20 PM [User Showcase] Re: Lonely Night (Modern Pop Country) [Re: Samuel Davis]
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Nice song and a great effort however, I'm going to differ from the crowd a bit and say the driving force behind the modern pop country vibe of this song is your vocals and not the music.

The music you produced is a good foundational starting point and I really enjoy your vocals but I hear room for some tweaks to blur the lines between outlaw singer doing Florida Georgia Line material.

I'm definitely in the minority opinion here and that's ok. You're batting close to 1,000 on the forum so my opinion is irrelevant and I've certainly been wrong before. I did enjoy my listen and I really respect your vocals. You're an awesome singer.

Charlie
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#434684 - 10/22/17 01:24 PM [User Showcase] Re: Lonely Night (Modern Pop Country) [Re: Charlie Fogle]
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Originally Posted By: Charlie Fogle
Nice song and a great effort however, I'm going to differ from the crowd a bit and say the driving force behind the modern pop country vibe of this song is your vocals and not the music.

The music you produced is a good foundational starting point and I really enjoy your vocals but I hear room for some tweaks to blur the lines between outlaw singer doing Florida Georgia Line material.

I'm definitely in the minority opinion here and that's ok. You're batting close to 1,000 on the forum so my opinion is irrelevant and I've certainly been wrong before. I did enjoy my listen and I really respect your vocals. You're an awesome singer.

Charlie



Thanks for listening Charlie. I do get a lot of my influence from the older outlaw style country. I'm actually working on an entire album right now of more traditional material. Even though I do enjoy Florida Georgia line and some of the other pop country I prefer the old school sounding country and I'm sure that it shows through in my songs. In todays music scene that's ok though. Mashing styles together to make something different sounding can help set you apart from the crowd.
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#434710 - 10/22/17 05:01 PM [User Showcase] Re: Lonely Night (Modern Pop Country) [Re: Samuel Davis]
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Samuel, nice big clean sound here! Great tune, great production! Don't ever listen to the naysayers!! If enough time and effort is put into the project, just about anything can be created using BIAB. Sometimes it requires partnering with other programs to make it happen, but that's the great thing about BIAB. You prove it here! Thanks, Torrey
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#434723 - 10/22/17 06:17 PM [User Showcase] Re: Lonely Night (Modern Pop Country) [Re: Samuel Davis]
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Went back for a second listen. And I have to say, you have made such a strong strong case here man for all we discussed on that thread about using BIAB to HELP with the modern sound if you are willing to work a little.

But I liked it when it was still just a baby!!

smile
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#434735 - 10/22/17 09:07 PM [User Showcase] Re: Lonely Night (Modern Pop Country) [Re: Samuel Davis]
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lol that's funny David. I know what your saying though. Even at 32 bars (or whatever it was) it still had a good sound and a nice groove.
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#434742 - 10/22/17 10:50 PM [User Showcase] Re: Lonely Night (Modern Pop Country) [Re: Samuel Davis]
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Pretty cool stuff. I'd like a little more bass guitar and a little less bass drum but I get what you're going for.
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#434765 - 10/23/17 06:53 AM [User Showcase] Re: Lonely Night (Modern Pop Country) [Re: Samuel Davis]
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Sammy,

This is excellent!

A truly "modern" sound. Really well put together. Just the right touch of all the elements needed to create "the sound". The BEAT, the repetitive synth, the background synth strings - and the all important "traditional" (dobro) adding the right flavor.

The write "works", too - has the right type "flow" to it. With enough story to give it the interest it needs. Well done.

Your vocal on this is super. REALLY good. Your best so far, I think. And this is my favorite of the things I've heard from you. It sounds "current" without sounding derivative.

I respect Charlie's take on "current Country", but I think this does a good job of "hitting the mark". Not the FGL style, but certainly the style of the "gruffer" current group of Country artists.

You will LOVE the new Atmospheric Pedal Steel tracks. They are GREAT for these type productions...

GREAT job on this. Hope you keep going in this direction...

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#434817 - 10/23/17 11:29 AM [User Showcase] Re: Lonely Night (Modern Pop Country) [Re: Samuel Davis]
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Whow, those vocals are definitely something else!
Impressive, this song immediately reminded me of the most emotional song I know Flame trees by Cold Chisel

So.... By all means keep them songs coming!

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