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#436656 - 11/05/17 04:18 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] How can I duplicate The Solos In Master Jazz Guitar Solos?
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Ok, I would like to know if there is any way I can get a result to sound like the solos in the Master Jazz Guitar Solos add on? I have tried by having the solist make a solo off of the solo itself that's on the melody line when you load it in BIAB. But, the results are dissapointing using both real tracks and the soloist styles that make the solos.I use the Melody influances the solo box and use custom and put everything at 100%. It will make a solo, but not as complicated as the original solo itself.Now why would I want to do this? Well, I don't play guitar for one and I sure as hell don't know Jazz Guitar. But, I love Jazz Guitar and the tone and the whole aspect of it. I have bought every single Jazz Guitar VST out the and amp sims to duplicate the sound and have come mightly close.But, I can't keep using the same old solos in BIAB. After a while they all start to sound the same. I mean the midi versions especially don't sound geneuin like the real tracks, but the real tracks seem to use the same phrasing over and over no matter how you change the chording. I guess I'm asking the impossible. But, if anyone has any tips or tricks I'd sure appreaciate it. Thanks Leonard confused

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#436667 - 11/05/17 06:49 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: How can I duplicate The Solos In Master Jazz Guitar Solos? [Re: leonard1962]
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Originally Posted By: leonard1962
I guess I'm asking the impossible. confused


Maybe?

Actually Jazz guitar is my initially studied instrument. Maybe as a result I don't try to look for sound samples or VSTs to emulate the sound based on midi. The real-tracks, as recordings, are as good as I have found, in terms of phrasing and tone, to supplement my recording.

For the past couple years, my blind ambition has been and is, piano. Here we have both the real tracks and real-midi tracts from PG. On top of that there is a world of great midi sound available to us.

Don't know if that helps, but at least you know that others understand your quest.
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#436679 - 11/05/17 11:28 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: How can I duplicate The Solos In Master Jazz Guitar Solos? [Re: leonard1962]
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Have a look at www.RapidComposer.com for fitting any midi anywhere over different chord/scales. It will import all the keyswitches for any vst and save them to a phrase that can be dropped in and fit over any chord/scale. It will also run in vst mode within Biab. It has a melody generator though I have not tried it out that much.
Look through Post your own Tips and Tricks here there are lots of examples.


For sound have a look at Free Archtop Guitar for RealTrack Jazz Electric Guitar (27)

There is a great demo here Icelander made up Demo
and NEW! Jazz Gtr "EleFred" set in 3 tempos - FREE!! by Icelander
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#437221 - 11/09/17 05:28 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: How can I duplicate The Solos In Master Jazz Guitar Solos? [Re: Pipeline]
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When I have the funds I'll try rapid composser. I already have 2 great sounding Jazz Guitar VST an Orange Tree and Impact sound Archtop. Both sound great. Thanks for the info

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#437244 - 11/09/17 08:24 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: How can I duplicate The Solos In Master Jazz Guitar Solos? [Re: leonard1962]
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There's a free to try Demo version, and there will be another sale special soon http://www.rapidcomposer.com/news.html the LE version will do everything you need, though you can upgrade at anytime or when there is another special.
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#437254 - 11/09/17 09:22 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: How can I duplicate The Solos In Master Jazz Guitar Solos? [Re: leonard1962]
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You can create an rcCTRL text file for the Kontakt instruments keyswitch articulations.
like this
Click to reveal..

Code:
## Controller and articulation definitions

controllerset="Indiginus Instruments Kontakt"; 
controller={name="Modulation"; num=1; default=0; },{name="Volume"; num=7; default=64; },{name="Expression"; num=11; default=100; },{name="Control 20"; num=20; default=64; },{name="Control 21"; num=21; default=0; },{name="Control 22"; num=22; default=0; },{name="Control 23"; num=23; default=10; },{name="Sustain"; num=64; default=0; off=0; on=127; },{name="Legato"; num=68; default=0; off=0; on=127; },{name="Reverb"; num=91; default=64; },{name="Chorus"; num=93; default=0; }; 
group="The_Resonator"; articulation="Grace Note"; keyswitch="F1"; 
group="The_Resonator"; articulation="Trill Up"; keyswitch="G1"; 
group="The_Resonator"; articulation="Trill Down"; keyswitch="A1"; 
group="The_Resonator"; articulation="Up Silide"; keyswitch="A#1"; 
group="The_Resonator"; articulation="Down Slide"; keyswitch="B1; 
group="The_Resonator"; articulation="Bend 1"; keyswitch="F#1"; 
group="The_Resonator"; articulation="Bend 2"; keyswitch="G#1"; 
group="The_Resonator"; articulation="Mute"; keyswitch="D#1"; 
group="The_Resonator"; articulation="Harmony"; keyswitch="E1"; 
group="The_Resonator"; articulation="Chords (not used in RC)"; keyswitch="C7"; 
group="The_Resonator"; articulation="Solo"; keyswitch="B6"; 

group="Delta Blues Ac Slide Gtr"; articulation="Sustain"; keyswitch="G1"; 
group="Delta Blues Ac Slide Gtr"; articulation="Mute"; keyswitch="G#1; 
group="Delta Blues Ac Slide Gtr"; articulation="Slide Up Fast"; keyswitch="A1"; 
group="Delta Blues Ac Slide Gtr"; articulation="Slide Up Slow"; keyswitch="A#1"; 
group="Delta Blues Ac Slide Gtr"; articulation="Slide Down"; keyswitch="B1"; 
group="Delta Blues Ac Slide Gtr"; articulation="Harmonic"; keyswitch="F1"; 

group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Hammer On"; keyswitch="F1"; 
group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Trill Up"; keyswitch="G1"; 
group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Trill Down"; keyswitch="A1"; 
group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Up Silide"; keyswitch="A#1"; 
group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Down Slide"; keyswitch="D#1; 
group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Pull Off"; keyswitch="B1"; 
group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Bend 1"; keyswitch="F#1"; 
group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Bend 2"; keyswitch="G#1"; 
group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Mutes"; keyswitch="C#1"; 
group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Harmony"; keyswitch="E1"; 
group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Tremolo"; keyswitch="D1"; 
group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Chords (not used in RC)"; keyswitch="C7"; 
group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Solo"; keyswitch="B6"; group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Hammer On"; keyswitch="F1"; 
group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Trill Up"; keyswitch="G1"; 
group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Trill Down"; keyswitch="A1"; 
group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Up Silide"; keyswitch="A#1"; 
group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Down Slide"; keyswitch="D#1; 
group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Pull Off"; keyswitch="B1"; 
group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Bend 1"; keyswitch="F#1"; 
group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Bend 2"; keyswitch="G#1"; 
group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Mutes"; keyswitch="C#1"; 
group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Harmony"; keyswitch="E1"; 
group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Tremolo"; keyswitch="D1"; 
group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Chords (not used in RC)"; keyswitch="C7"; 
group="The Mandolin"; articulation="Solo"; keyswitch="B6"; 

Step by step import guide:
Watch: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9befd2bfy05255k/RC_BB_Import.mp4?dl=0
Download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9befd2bfy05255k/RC_BB_Import.mp4?dl=1


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#437265 - 11/09/17 10:48 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: How can I duplicate The Solos In Master Jazz Guitar Solos? [Re: Pipeline]
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Looks complicated, but I'll give it a shot

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#437302 - 11/09/17 04:20 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: How can I duplicate The Solos In Master Jazz Guitar Solos? [Re: leonard1962]
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I hope it's not too much info for you, RapidComposer is a bit frustrating at first but the end result is worth it. Don't worry if you can't work out all of this, someone else viewing or searching the forum might find it helpful.

The RC keyswitch control .rcCTRL only works in the full version, in the LE you need to make the keyswitch notes and set them to Absolute so they don't transpose.
C:\Users\User\Documents\RapidComposerV3\DB\Archtops Kontakt.rcCTRL
So you just need to copy the keyswitch notes to the rcCTRL like the one I posted above, * just change the octave up 1, so if the KS is C0 change to C1 in the Archtops Kontakt.rcCTRL for RapidComposer.

Here's Archtops Kontakt.rcCTRL with just a couple of keyswitches added fr the two Archtops, you can add the rest:
Code:
## Controller and articulation definitions

controllerset="Archtops Kontakt"; 
controller={name="Modulation"; num=1; default=0; },{name="Volume"; num=7; default=64; },{name="Expression"; num=11; default=100; },{name="Control 20"; num=20; default=64; },{name="Control 21"; num=21; default=0; },{name="Control 22"; num=22; default=0; },{name="Control 23"; num=23; default=10; },{name="Sustain"; num=64; default=0; off=0; on=127; },{name="Legato"; num=68; default=0; off=0; on=127; },{name="Reverb"; num=91; default=64; },{name="Chorus"; num=93; default=0; }; 

group="Impact Archtop"; articulation="Harmonic"; keyswitch="F1"; 
group="Impact Archtop"; articulation="Mutes"; keyswitch="D1"; 


group="Evolution Archtop"; articulation="Sustain"; keyswitch="A1";
group="Evolution Archtop"; articulation="Palm Mute"; keyswitch="C#1";


More: http://www.musicdevelopments.com/wiki/doku.php?id=en:overview:articulations





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