You need to be logged in to post
Options
Index
#442114 - 12/02/17 12:27 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Using Band in a Box
Registered: 10/28/17
Posts: 14
Loc: Central New York State
Rich35 Offline
Newbie

Registered: 10/28/17
Posts: 14
Loc: Central New York State

Hi All
Just upgrade from BinaB 2012.5 pro to 2018 ultra and wow!
Anyways I am using it for backing tracks for playing my Chromatic Harmonica,s and learning Guitar any Ideas for learning guitar with binab ?
Thanks
Rich

Top
#442214 - 12/02/17 07:25 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Using Band in a Box [Re: Rich35]
Registered: 07/13/02
Posts: 2514
pghboemike Offline
Veteran

Registered: 07/13/02
Posts: 2514
you may want to be a bit more specific about what you mean by "learning guitar with binab " as well as describing the system you are running the software on including the os and audio/midi interface you are using

a thread the may be helpful

http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=339132&Searchpage=1&Main=49476&Words=%22learning+guitar%22&Search=true#Post339132



Edited by pghboemike (12/03/17 03:17 PM)
_________________________
Lenovo YOGA 900 Window s 10 Home 64bit 16GB RAM casio wk7500 presonus audiobox i2 usb interface
casio wk-7500
biab & realband 2017 everything pk both with Current builds

Top
#442352 - 12/03/17 12:44 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Using Band in a Box [Re: Rich35]
Registered: 10/28/17
Posts: 14
Loc: Central New York State
Rich35 Offline
Newbie

Registered: 10/28/17
Posts: 14
Loc: Central New York State
Hi
I am referring to how people use band in a box to learn
Guitar, as a beginning guitar student at 62 I am a old Boy learning a new trick ,Guitar and if others are using this product how do they use it ? Make backing for songs,putting down and trying to keep up with Band in a Box,etc.
I just recently,like this week bought 2018 ,I had 2012.5 pro edition now ultra plus 2018 ,and learning it also, but the question was for learning Guitar and band in a box uses for learning guitar
Rich

Top
#442398 - 12/03/17 03:27 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Using Band in a Box [Re: Rich35]
Registered: 07/12/00
Posts: 17726
Loc: Hudson Valley & Lake George NY
Matt Finley Offline
Veteran

Registered: 07/12/00
Posts: 17726
Loc: Hudson Valley & Lake George NY
Hi Rich. Guitar is foreign to me so I can't help there, but I have a suggestion: I think you want to reach the many BIAB users who do play guitar. They may not look at this forum very often (I don't). You posted here correctly, but I suggest you also place a post in the main BIAB User Product Forum for PC and / or Mac, brieftly state what you're looking for, and add a link to this post http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=442114&gonew=1#UNREAD
_________________________
BIAB 2018 Win Audiophile; [& 2018 Mac UltraPak]. Software: Mixcraft, Adobe Audition, Ozone, Encore; Win 10 64 Pro. Hardware: custom i7, 16 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Focusrite 18i20(2), TCE Finalizer, Behringer X-Touch, Adam sub & monitors.

Top
#442403 - 12/03/17 03:43 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Using Band in a Box [Re: Rich35]
Registered: 12/27/03
Posts: 11507
Loc: Hamlin NY
MarioD Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/27/03
Posts: 11507
Loc: Hamlin NY
Hi Rich,

I am a guitarist who uses BiaB in a number of ways. Here are a couple of ideas for you. I have used both of these many times.

1-If you can't read music then input the chords of a song you want to learn, pick a style, and play along.

2-If you do read music then you have a couple of options. One would be to input the chords, pick a style and read the music. If you are using MIDI you can slow down or speed up the tempo and it will still sound good. Realtracks are good but only withing a certain tempo range.

Another option is to look at Note Norton's site, http://nortonmusic.com/
and check out the fake discs. If you find one that you like then order it and buy the corresponding fake book. The disc will point to the page in the fake book that the song is on as well as load the chords for said song and suggest a style. These are MIDI styles so the above tempo suggestions work perfectly. But you can use any style that you have, MIDI, RTs or a mixture. I use this method to practice my site reading.

I hope this helps and good luck.

Ps - also look at the guitar tab option in BiaB. It shows you the guitar's fret board and what notes are being played. You don't need to read music to use this option.
_________________________
Politicians, like diapers, occasionally need to be changed. Usually for the same reason!

64 bit Win 10 Pro - the latest BiaB and RB - Roland Octa-Capture audio interface - a ton of software and some hardware.

Top
#442450 - 12/03/17 08:19 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Using Band in a Box [Re: Rich35]
Registered: 05/12/12
Posts: 2384
Loc: South Africa
JoanneCooper Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/12/12
Posts: 2384
Loc: South Africa
Hi rich

I use the Biab songs all the time. They have loads of public domain songs on the disc (or I think you can purchase them separately if you don’t have them). The nice thing about these songs is that they are generally well known plus they have the melody already in them.

Just pull up one and start playing along. Try and pick out the chords and the melody. If you can read music you can follow along on the score. Start with a very slow tempo and gradually increase speed. Try loading different real styles in with the songs and soloing the guitar parts and pick up the strumming or picking pattern of the realtrack. If you know your scales you can improvise along. Try changing the key of the song. Try transposing on the fly by using a capo.

Also I have a youtube channel where I have scollling chords and lyrics so you can play along.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL73jwH9WpDNR0DXMzBK4FMaZgzrXo15Bk

Top
#442642 - 12/04/17 03:30 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Using Band in a Box [Re: JoanneCooper]
Registered: 10/28/17
Posts: 14
Loc: Central New York State
Rich35 Offline
Newbie

Registered: 10/28/17
Posts: 14
Loc: Central New York State

Thanks All for the input,And Joanne Your first song with band in a box,is the reason I bought band in a Box 2018
Thanks
Rich

Top
#442685 - 12/04/17 10:41 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Using Band in a Box [Re: Rich35]
Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 2417
Loc: Sacramento, California
dcuny Online   content
Veteran

Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 2417
Loc: Sacramento, California
I'm teaching one of my daughters to play guitar. I can quickly create a practice track for the chords we happen to be working on, and adjust the tempo to whatever she's comfortable with.

When my son was learning to play bass, I'd queue up the songs that we'd be doing that week in the church choir. We'd start at half-speed (or slower) and then slowly move up to speed.

Obviously, BiaB offers a lot more than that. But simply having something to play against is a lot more fun than playing with a metronome.
_________________________
-- David Cuny
My virtual singer development blog

Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?

Top
#442768 - 12/05/17 09:24 AM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Using Band in a Box [Re: Rich35]
Registered: 05/12/12
Posts: 2384
Loc: South Africa
JoanneCooper Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/12/12
Posts: 2384
Loc: South Africa
Originally Posted By: Rich35

Thanks All for the input,And Joanne Your first song with band in a box,is the reason I bought band in a Box 2018
Thanks
Rich

Wonderful rich! So glad to hear that!

Top
#455547 - 02/04/18 05:57 AM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Using Band in a Box [Re: JoanneCooper]
Registered: 03/02/08
Posts: 16
Loc: Spring Bay IL.
Geneoh Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 03/02/08
Posts: 16
Loc: Spring Bay IL.
Originally Posted By: JoanneCooper
Hi rich

I use the Biab songs all the time. They have loads of public domain songs on the disc (or I think you can purchase them separately if you don’t have them). The nice thing about these songs is that they are generally well known plus they have the melody already in them.

Just pull up one and start playing along. Try and pick out the chords and the melody. If you can read music you can follow along on the score. Start with a very slow tempo and gradually increase speed. Try loading different real styles in with the songs and soloing the guitar parts and pick up the strumming or picking pattern of the realtrack. If you know your scales you can improvise along. Try changing the key of the song. Try transposing on the fly by using a capo.

Also I have a youtube channel where I have scollling chords and lyrics so you can play along.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL73jwH9WpDNR0DXMzBK4FMaZgzrXo15Bk


Well Thank You!
Im a new player also, this will surely help, nice songs also.

Top
#456166 - 02/07/18 05:39 AM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Using Band in a Box [Re: Rich35]
Registered: 01/24/10
Posts: 99
Loc: on the edge of the sandbar
mrgeeze Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 01/24/10
Posts: 99
Loc: on the edge of the sandbar
I am a guitar player. 40+ years now
I use biab primarily to build backing tracks for instrumental guitar work.
Mostly covers, a few originals.
I also use it extensively for selecting, practicing and building the repertoire.

A couple of biab features that make it great for working up the repertoire for performance.

the ability to test different styles and tracks quickly is great.
its nice to find a slightly fresh take on a well worn standard.
A reggae version of "Autumn Leaves" .... perhaps.

The ability to modify tempo is very important for learning a new piece.
You really can't play it fast if you can't play it slow.

I slow down the tempo till i can play the piece correctly 4 times through.
There is no doubt it makes learning a tune faster and correct.
It sticks better

At present I'm working on a flat-picking tune by russ barrenburg and the fingering is odd for me.
Slowing it down allows me to get the fingering right. Makes the song sound better

At a slow tempo I can begin to find little fill opportunities or experiment with the melody in sections I have down. I normally improvise at least a chorus or two in performance.

Finally the loop section. 4 or 5 tricky bars 1000 times at 50bpm till you can play them correctly.
Ok, a little exaggeration, but you get my point.

For a guitairst, expecially an instrumental guitarist, biab is the best tool I have found.
_________________________
win7 biab2017
dell optiplex dual quad core i7
16gb ram 1tb ssd
audioengine usb audio out
costa del mar sunglasses
honda element

Top
#456206 - 02/07/18 08:28 AM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Using Band in a Box [Re: mrgeeze]
Registered: 12/27/03
Posts: 11507
Loc: Hamlin NY
MarioD Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/27/03
Posts: 11507
Loc: Hamlin NY
Originally Posted By: mrgeeze
...........................

For a guitairst, expecially an instrumental guitarist, biab is the best tool I have found.


Got that right! I agree completely.

PS - I know where you are coming from wink
_________________________
Politicians, like diapers, occasionally need to be changed. Usually for the same reason!

64 bit Win 10 Pro - the latest BiaB and RB - Roland Octa-Capture audio interface - a ton of software and some hardware.

Top
#457233 - 02/12/18 07:22 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Using Band in a Box [Re: Rich35]
Registered: 10/09/16
Posts: 387
Loc: Central Ohio
edshaw Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 10/09/16
Posts: 387
Loc: Central Ohio
Same here, without a doubt.

Ray Charles said, "If you can count, you can play,"
I couldn't think of a better way to hone counting skills.
BiaB is the metronome on steroids. Like any tool,
you have to use it, not let it use you.


Edited by edshaw (02/15/18 11:17 AM)
_________________________
Biab 2015
Win 7 64bit
SONY Acid & Reaper
TEAC Digital deck
HD Stereo field recorder w/ clock

Top


PG Music News
Video Request Anwered - Creating Intros, Bridges, and Endings in Band-in-a-Box®

Check out the newest support video created by Kent that explains how to create intros, bridges, and endings in Band-in-a-Box®! Click here to view...

Holiday Hours - Monday, November 12th

Remembrance Day is Sunday, November 11th. In recognition of this day, our hours will be:

Sunday, November 11: Technical Support closed. Sales & Customer Service will be open from 8am - 4pm PST.
Monday, November 12: Technical Support closed. Sales & Customer Service will be open from 8am - 4pm PST.

Our regular hours resume Tuesday, November 13. Review our hours and additional contact information at https://www.pgmusic.com/contact.htm

The Band-in-a-Box® SongPicker Feature

If you have a folder of songs that you'd always like easy access to within Band-in-a-Box, make sure you familiarize yourself with The SongPicker feature, which access the folder that you choose and lock it to!

Access the SongPicker by clicking on the [Song] button next to the title of the song within the main screen of Band-in-a-Box. The first time the SongPicker is opened, you can choose the folder to use to create the list by selecting [Change] and navigating to your preferred directory. Once chosen, select [OK - Make Song List], and Band-in-a-Box does the rest... the next time you click on [Song], you'll be taken directly to your preferred folder!

Learn even more about this feature within Chapter 5 of our Online Manual, here.

Just Launched - The FAQ and Knowledge Base Forum!

If you have a question (or questions!) about Band-in-a-Box®, PowerTracks, RealBand®, or any other PG Music Inc. product - whether it be technical support or pre-sales, there's now an easy one-stop spot to find the answer - our FAQ and Knowledge Base Forum!

Don't want to read through the 600+ posts? Use the Search FAQ option, and you can choose your key search terms to locate the topic and answer you're looking for!

Common pre-sales questions about our products, ordering, and delivery:
Pre-Sales

Technical support & troubleshooting by product:
Band-in-a-Box® for Windows
Band-in-a-Box® for Mac
RealBand® for Windows
PowerTracks Pro® Audio for Windows
Other Products

There's even a Request New FAQs forum, if you didn't see your question answered anywhere!

Over 190 Saxophone RealTracks for Band-in-a-Box®!

Today's the day we say "Happy Birthday" to Adolphe Sax, the creator of the Saxophone!
(Adolphe was born November 6, 1814 - 32 years later he patended his saxophone creation!)

We have more than 190 Saxophone RealTracks available for Band-in-a-Box with the following RealTracks Sets - review the complete list here.

Check our our Saxophonist programs for Windows:
The Jazz Saxophonist
The Rock Saxophonist

Customers LOVE Band-in-a-Box®!

Here's some of the amazing feedback we've received lately, from program users just like you!

Arthritic fingers means I find it very difficult to play anything. This program is amazing - and it does use real musicians!
-Bob E.

The power of this program is just unbelievable! It's been a best kept secret for a couple of decades now. A song writer's dream!
-Mike D

This band can practice any time of day ...LOL
-William G

Band-in-a-Box works so simple you could teach a child to do it within minutes - the RealTracks are amazing. Doing an album as we speak. I challenge you to give it a try. I am 60 years old and even though I've played 50 years, I am no engineer. But as a song writer I needed some effective tools to create quality production of my work. This is IT! It's as easy as typing and filling in the blanks. The instructional videos allow you to change settings while watching the pro. I myself purchased every "RealTrack" I could get... Take it from me, don't let this overwhelm you. It is absolutely a writer and solo artist dream!
-John S

Best part of Band-in-a-Box is that it saves me having to program drums, the Real Drummer part of the software is brilliant and natural sounding. I then layer real instruments with guys from my band. As a songwriter, Band-in-a-Box has saved me so much time it's ridiculous.
-Andy B

Incredible Software. Great for ignorance and experts and for anyone who wants to deal with music. If you do not have a hobby and want to have one "Band-in-a-Box" is the best choice. Simple, but if you want to be an expert on it, you need to make an effort to master it perfectly for perfect use. The only disadvantage is if you do not want to become a musician, and use it, you will become a perfect musician. Therefore, be cautious. It's not a toy. ;)
-Ilija B.

Been a BIAB man since '92, such a comprehensive source for music making! So much more to offer than "loops", it allows actual music composition to be realized. Evolve from harmonic ignorance and find out what REAL music is made of!
-Don D.

A must for any musician who wants to improve on his own, or to share his musical ideas in a professional high quality rendition.. You just play with the best musicians and that's great ♪ :)
-Jean-Marie D.

I use Band in a Box all the time. I couldn't be more pleased. It's easy to use and it sounds super-big time!
-Max R.

An excellent tool for generating backing tracks. Saves me hours of MIDI programming. Combines the best of MIDI and live audio samples.
-Steve A.

Video Help - My Band-in-a-Box® Won't Open!

Our NEW I want a video that shows me how to .... forum is off to a GREAT start! We've answered the common question/issue of "My program won't open!" with the following video: How To: Return to Factory Settings outside Band-in-a-Box (Win).

Want to see a video about a particular issue your having with the program? Post your request here, we're happy to help!!

Forum Stats
28174 Members
59 Forums
54831 Topics
454417 Posts

Max Online: 2434 @ 11/14/17 12:37 AM
Newest Members
Pokey53, JoaoC, guyph7, em2c, dfmaker

28173 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
Noel96 192
Matt Finley 130
Al-David 129
Rustyspoon# 127
BlueAttitude 113
floyd jane 111
Tangmo 108
Janice & Bud 108
44kfl 104
Greg Johnson 102
Today's Birthdays
WKjun