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#439467 - 11/22/17 07:23 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Maybe PG might buy Cakewalk, then everyone (at least everyone on this forum) would be happy!

Now if PG did become the new owners and could manage to add generation of realtracks/drums within it, wouldn't that be something, though its easy enough to do otherwise by importing.
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Edited by musiclover (11/22/17 07:34 AM)
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#439470 - 11/22/17 07:38 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: eddie1261]
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Originally Posted By: eddie1261
Time to buy Pro Tools.


Hardly.
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#439515 - 11/22/17 10:26 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: eddie1261]
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Originally Posted By: eddie1261
Once Steve helped me get my Focusrite to play nice with Pro Tools, it is glorious.

You're welcome! smile

Pro Tools Rant
Cost: I did similar to what I had switched to when I used Adobe Audition. I pay a monthly subscription of about $20 a month for as long as I like and don't have to worry about software upgrades as I get them as part of that. So when I went the Pro Tools route, I unsubscribed from Adobe and went to Avid. Monthly rate was about the same from one tool to the next.

Performance: Yes, a lot of people on the Avid forums complain about bugs but IMHO most of those are people that do not have the tech-savviness to figure out how things work in the first place. Once your sound card and software are locked in, things work great. I just love it because it is a work horse software that can carry a heavy load when needed. I had no issues at all recording all 8 inputs of my interface at once while recording a band. You can throw a ton of plugins on it during mixing without dropping a beat.

Difficulty: Yes, it may be overwhelming coming to it from scratch like I did 2 years ago. Like any software I kept plugging at it until I figured things out. Lots of searching in the .PDF manual and "The GOOGLE".
End Rant
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#439519 - 11/22/17 10:45 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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I think many people who dislike Pro Tools actually dislike the company AVID. This was the company that mistreated the Sibelius team a few years back. They wanted a cheaper operation so sacked a brilliant specialist notation team which was immediately snapped by Steinberg. They are now the team developing Dorico which is aiming to be the top notation program. Since that time Sibelius has pretty well stood still with hardly any real development so you can imagine that many Sibelius users have a pretty low opinion about AVID.

In addition AVID's overall profitability looks pretty shaky and so I would not bank on the long term viability of the company

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#439521 - 11/22/17 10:48 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: funkycornwall]
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Originally Posted By: funkycornwall
I think many people who dislike Pro Tools actually dislike the company AVID.


Well put sir. Thanks!
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#439528 - 11/22/17 11:05 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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I started out oh so long ago with PT LE and the M-Box. Back in the day I coined the pharse "I didn't leave ProTools, ProTools left me" and added it to my Reaper account. Since Reaper I have never look back. Otherwise, all these years later, I honestly don't really recall why I got so upset at ProTools. But I did! crazy

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I pay a monthly subscription of about $20 a month for as long as I like and don't have to worry about software upgrades as I get them as part of that


I hope you are making money with ProTools, cause otherwise, that sounds crazy.
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#439543 - 11/22/17 11:29 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: MusicStudent]
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hi protools not plugins to exspensive i have it and don't use it just me I'm trying studio one 3 see if it fits for me thanks eric

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#439550 - 11/22/17 12:04 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Just downloaded mixcraft 8 pro studio trial.

After an hour I bought it.

The wave files I made in biab then over to mixcraft comparing it too sonar it blew sonar away sound/clarity, And I was about to purchase a reverb plug in from waves for 79.00 dollars.

Daw and all the plug ins that you get and it records top notch on the vocals again blew sonar away on my comparison.

Paid $99.00 USD on special rrp 179.00.

Worth a try on the trial.
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#439560 - 11/22/17 12:23 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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I've certainly had Value For Money from my Cakewalk Guitar Pro2, bought in 2003. It's been unsupported for years but still does all I need. Never made much money out of me!
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#439565 - 11/22/17 12:30 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Wow,

The fact that I have about 300 songs and other compositions saved as Cakewalk projects all pointing at Cakewalk folders, all with Cakewalk Mixing Board templates, and hundreds of Cakewalk FX presets I built for as many different instruments doesn't bother me at all.

Sure I don't mind switching to another DAW and starting over from scratch.

Hmmmmmmmmmm.

Glad I have the guy down the street that used to build IBM mainframes.

Gonna pay him another visit soon and back up the operating system again.

This rots.

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#439584 - 11/22/17 12:55 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Just stating that if you where interested and that I was about to buy a 79 dollar reverb then bought mixcraft tons of plugs and loops awesome recording sound etc.

David yes I know we all get stuck in a bit of a rut depending on a fav Daw.


awww well onwards and upwards.
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#439585 - 11/22/17 12:55 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: David Snyder]
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Everybody DON'T PANIC!

Why not wait and see what is going to happen in the next few months instead of running out and buying a new DAW? Does Sonar meet your needs now? If so use it. If Cakewalk isn't picked up in a few months then it is time to change. Unless of course you are like me! Sonar as it stand right now does all I need so I will probably use it for at least another year and maybe longer.

YMMV
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#439589 - 11/22/17 12:59 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Yes I agree Mario it was a good buy for me, as their are two excellent reverbs that I have tried so far.

I got another daw and a whole load of plugs for the price of one.


It does blow sonar/acid out the water tho l.o.l.
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#439593 - 11/22/17 01:08 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Hmmmm, puts the Craig Anderton leaving Cakewalk recently into perspective, doesn't it?
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#439594 - 11/22/17 01:10 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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And this really sucks. I have purchased over the years almost everything Cakewalk related - sound libraries, DAW's, etc.

I hope they sell off the Cakewalk division, rather than just drop it, and then the new company offers something for loyal companies.

Otherwise, I will never ever buy anything with a Gibson or Philips brand again. May not make a difference to them, but that's my response to something like this.
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#439600 - 11/22/17 01:35 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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I’m concerned that they keep the authorization servers working. If not, my lifetime ‘subscription’ reverts to demo mode. That would be bad.

I plan to just sit tight, but also start saving any unfinished project files. Then I’ll decide which other DAW to use.

To the poster who said the BIAB files sound better in another DAW besides SONAR, well, no. There is something else at work.
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#439616 - 11/22/17 02:18 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: MarioD]
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Yes, good advice Mario. Let's not jump to conclusions here. Early days still. Early days.
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#439625 - 11/22/17 02:35 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Shows how much they care about their customers that have dropped a good bit of money on their products.

I guess all they have to say is, "sorry".

And the lifetime offer was when Cakewalk was already owned by Gibson, so what the hell??? Did they know then that "lifetime" was really about two years or so?
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#439642 - 11/22/17 03:21 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Hope I don't sound like an ambulance chasing lawyer, but

... the folks over in the Reaper forum will welcome you all with open arms. For those who don't know, Reaper is simply fantastic. Rock Solid and fully featured. New features added on a frequent basis and I never see bugs. A complete detailed manual which is updated with each new revision. But better yet, just Google what you want with the word Reaper and you will find the instructions. Compatible with everything!

Free to try for 60 days, then 6 sec delay screen at start to remind you that you should send them 60 USD [that means, Try until you buy, no restrictions]. I didn't leave Pro-tools, Pro-tools left me. Went to Reaper and never looked back.

This may be the time for you to come on over. Look for me in the Forum. I am still Jazzmandan over there.
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#439689 - 11/22/17 06:06 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: MusicStudent]
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... the folks over in the Reaper forum will welcome you all with open arms..


maybe someone will start a reaper for sonar users thread over there to ease the transision
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