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#446476 - 12/21/17 02:35 AM [UserTracks (and other add-ons)] User Track Development Options
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Jon Thomas Offline
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Hi guys,
I searched the forum but I couldn't really find anything that could help me. Maybe I missed it, not sure. I apologize in advance if the answers are already there, somewhere. It's a big forum smile

Anyway, the question is the following: does anybody know exactly what the options in the UserTracks Development Settings page are for? I looked in the help / manual and frankly things are not very clear, at least to me. More specifically I'm asking about:

1. Don’t start a new Riff on this bar
The manual says: "prevents the current bar from being used as the start of a new riff. This is useful if the bar has sustained notes carried over from the previous bar and no new attack of a note".
I get it, but ... what is a "Riff" in this context? If a "Riff" is not clearly defined, I can't understand how to use this option.

2. Don’t End a Riff at the start of this bar
Again, the problem is "what is a Riff"?

3. Only Play this for a fill
The manual states: "sets the current bar as a fill, which will only be played where the user’s song is also a fill"
Again, my question is: what is a "Fill" in this context?

4. Odd/Even must match
The manual states: "sets the current bar to play in the user’s song only if the odd/even status (bars after a part marker) matches the user’s song"
What is the "odd/even status" in this context?

Thank you in advance to anybody willing to help!!!

Jon






Edited by Jon Thomas (12/21/17 02:36 AM)
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#446540 - 12/21/17 10:50 AM [UserTracks (and other add-ons)] Re: User Track Development Options [Re: Jon Thomas]
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Hi Jon,

You are correct that selections on the UserTracks Development Screen are not documented.

Peter Gannon is aware of this deficiency and said it will be corrected +++ HERE +++ .

Thanks for posting a reminder.
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#446644 - 12/21/17 11:29 PM [UserTracks (and other add-ons)] Re: User Track Development Options [Re: Jon Thomas]
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Jon Thomas Offline
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Thank you Jim!!
So let's wait and see smile
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#446728 - 12/22/17 10:42 AM [UserTracks (and other add-ons)] Re: User Track Development Options [Re: Jon Thomas]
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Ok, I did some experiments, to see if I could infer empirically what these options mean.

(please notice: I'll call a "UT-bar" a bar in your UT template, and a "SONG-bar" a bar in your song to be played back using your UT).

I wanted to test the following hypotheses:

1. a "Riff" (as mentioned in the UT development settings) is a SONG-bar where a chord is present. So, a "non-riff" is a SONG-bar without a chord (in other words, a SONG-bar in which the chord indicated in previous bars is played back by BIAB)

2A. a "fill" (as mentioned in the UT development settings) is a SONG-bar that precedes a change of chords

OR, INSTEAD:

2B. a "fill" is a SONG-bar that precedes a change of substyle (from A to B, or from B to A).


So, I did some testing to see if the following two settings worked according to the hypotheses above. The settings are:
- Don’t start a new Riff on this bar
and
- Only Play this for a fill

I found that:

- it seems that hypothesis 1 might be true or very close to the truth. In other words, if you set "Don't start a new Riff on this bar" on some UT-bars in your UT template, those UT-bars are only played back in a SONG-bars when there's no chord indicated.
If this is confirmed to be the actual function of this setting, this is very useful, for example for performances with a legato between UT-bars.

- I am more uncertain about the "fill". It seems that hypothesis 2B is closer to the truth. But, be warned, I found exceptions.
Anyway, if 2B is true or close to be true, that means that if you set "Only Play this for a fill" on some UT-bars, then BIAB will play back those UT-bars "mostly" on SONG-bars that precede a change of substyle. So, while I found that this is true, HOWEVER, I also found that BIAB plays back those UT-bars in other SONG-bars as well (that is, in SONG-bars that don't precede a change of substyle). And that threw me off, because the setting says "ONLY play ...". So this means that the actual rule must be somewhat different. Or maybe the setting doesn't work properly, I don't know.
Regardless, even with this ambiguity, this is still a useful setting, because you can (almost) be sure that SONG-bars that precede substyle changes will be played by specific UT-bars of your choice.

Anyway, this is what I discovered so far. Be warned, I could very well be totally wrong, I could have made mistakes etc etc etc. I am not sure of anything at all smile

Also, I have no idea about what happens when 2 or more chords are present in the SONG-bar (or in the UT-bar).

Hope this helps those of you working with UTs.

If PG Music wants to pitch in ... smile smile smile


Edited by Jon Thomas (12/22/17 10:46 AM)
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