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I am using 3 external MIDI devices which I specify in the Core MIDI port selection under the MIDI menu. They work as they should. But is there a way to retain the last selections used when launching BIAB without performing this action each time? I don't know how many times I have forgotten to at least hit 'OK' to get the ports connected and found all MIDI dead.
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Hello jazzmac,
Band-in-a-Box remembers the port settings between sessions (CoreMIDI | Choose ports). Are you saying that it isn't remembering the settings there, or are you talking about something different? The only reason I can think of that would cause it not to remember the settings, is if it wasn't able to create a preferences file (permissions issue), but in that case you would be getting error messages...
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The port settings last used are being remembered correctly, but the ports are inactive until the port selection dialog is opened and 'ok' selected. In other words, one must (in my experience) authorize the remembered settings for anything MIDI to work. If you cancel out of the dialog the ports remain inactive.
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I had that happen when I left Logic minimized and opened BB.
I seem to recall it also happening once when I had already closed down Logic, too.
Maybe it is that kind of issue, the device is not being released from another program or is still in use, something like that.
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What I'm seeing does not result from competition for ports, as it always happens regardless of whether any other MIDI-capable app is or has been running. Incidentally, it is also the case with BIAB 12. Maybe something with Snow Leopard? It is obviously not a serious problem, more like a nuisance, but there isn't much point in having the app 'remember' the port settings if you have to access the selection dialog to make them work.
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Hi,
I understand what you mean now, but can't duplicate it on my system. Perhaps it is a new Snow Leopard issue as you say - we'll do further testing. Just to be sure, you might try running the program from factory settings, and see if it still happens. Just duplicate the Preferences folder, "Preferences-Copy". Then delete the files in the Preferences folder and try running the program again. If it doesn't fix it you can restore your old prefs by renaming the "Copy" folder back.
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I have deleted the preferences as you suggested so the output port selection goes to Apple DLS, which works. If I select my USB keyboard as input, shut down and relaunch, this works without accessing the port selection dialog. So the problem seems to be entirely with output. As a matter of fact, I now see that with my usual port selections, the keyboard input *is* being seen by BIAB (judging from the upper keyboard animation, since there is nothing audible). It is only my external synths that get lost. I'm guessing that any software synth would work as well.
In case it matters, my setup is: USB keyboard as input, 2 hardware synths for output. The mixed audio outputs go to the computer line in. As stated before, when operating in the Core MIDI mode if, and only if, I hit the port selection 'ok' after launch, they are connected properly.
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The mixed audio outputs go to the computer line in.
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Where are those "mixed audio outputs coming from?
Are you talking physical wire connects or inside-the-puter virtual connects?
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Wire connections. I have an external 2-channel mixer mixing the audio output of the 2 synths, sending the mixed audio to the line input of the computer.
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Are you on a Macintosh? a Which has no Audio track in BIAB?
Have you done any signal tracing? TIP you can hear Line Level audio with a headphone...
Since BIAB has no Audio track, you may have to route the MIDI audio output around the sound device or look at the sound device's settings for a pass thru monitoring situation...
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Early 2009 MacPro. This minor issue has nothing to do with audio within or from BIAB, it is only the nuisance of having to re-assign MIDI output ports each time the app is launched. Once this is done, everything is normal. The external synths are not, judging from inactive activity lights, receiving MIDI data from BIAB without user intervention, so it doesn't really matter how the audio output from the synths is dealt with, there is no audio output because there is no MIDI input. It clearly seems to be that the 'remembered' port assignments are not active until the port selection dialog is brought up and the 'ok' selected. Then MIDI data again reaches the synths and everything is quite normal.
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I just tried running BIAB 12 for the first time since upgrading to Snow Leopard from Tiger several months ago, and ran into the same problem. No MIDI OUT until I choose ports and click OK in the dialog box. Definitely a bug.
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Glad to see the basic problem I brought up above has been fixed in Build 12. However, there is a remaining issue with MIDI patch selection. If you assign a patch from a higher bank to an instrument, save the song with patches, the patch is properly locked in for the current session. If you quit BIAB, relaunch and load the song, the patch for that instrument reverts to the low bank patch and it is necessary to reselect the high patch. The same is true if, after saving the song, you load another song with different patches. Maybe this is expected, but I would think that a fresh load of a song ought to have all patches exactly as saved. Any comments?
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