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For creating from scratch, I think nothing beats Band in a Box. Especially for beginners to create music. Great for beginners before moving into DAW recording. It's a way beginners coming from the background of analog recording with multitrack recorders with a limited number of tracks; they can bring many of those multitrack techniques into BB to extend track count, bounce tracks and increase the number of instruments in much the same way they did with their analog multitracks.
I think most people are unaware that BB can produce a song with dozens of tracks and dozens of different instruments, at CD quality and no loss of quality to the audio without having to use another program.
All of the same dxi,vst and audio effects available in RealBand are also available in BB. I think that another advantage to using BB over RB for creation to a beginner that processes like panning, gain changing, fading, etc are more similar to working with presets and beginners can spend more time making music than learning DAW programming. I see it as a beginning and more conducive to motivating the artist with successful production of music rather than frustrations of not being able to get the music in your head into a format that produces the audio you hear because of technical computer skill limitations.
Band in a Box is a great place to begin your creation journey and allows you to enjoy success as you grow into the more complex areas of production.
BIAB Ultra Pak+ 2024:RB 2024, Latest builds: Dell Optiplex 7040 Desktop; Windows-10-64 bit, Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz CPU and 16 GB Ram Memory.
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I use only BIAB. About 3 or 4 times a year I try to use RB and end up frustrated. It is not a good DAW for all the reasons already stated by others. I have tried a few times to use the Multi-Riff feature which is brilliant and should be included in BIAB!
+1 on that Cheers ian
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Being on the Mac side I don't even have the RB option, but from what I've heard about Multi-Riff I would be delighted to see that feature incorporated into BIAB. On both platforms.
UltraPAK 2021, 27" late 2012 iMac, 16 GB RAM, OSX 10.15.7
Logic Pro X 10.6.3
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Like many others I find BB is much faster to create and generate the initial draft of a song. I may or may not take the song into RB to add bits, make use of multi riff etc then I set everything to the same volume (90) and centre each track. I then export tracks to .wav and pull the tracks into a daw either Sonar or Reaper depending what I intend doing to the tracks. Then I check all is about the same volume and it is all down the middle. After that I start the editing (chopping up parts maybe moving or deleting them or whatever) adding extra midi parts (I have been using Sonar for many years and find creating midi parts simpler in Sonar where I also have a far greater choice of VST instruments) and start the mixing processes.
I have heaps of time on my hands but I find it easier and faster and more consistent to do things this way.
Tony
HP i7-4770 16GB 1TB SSD, Win 10 Home,
Focusrite 2i2 3rd Gen, Launchkey 61, Maton CW80, Telecaster, Ovation Elite TX, Yamaha Pacifica 612
BB 2022(912) RB 2022(2), CakeWalk, Reaper 6, Audacity, Melodyne 5 Editor, Izotope Music Production Suite 4.1
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Hi Charlie what you said below is really important especially that Biab allows you to be successful despite a lack of understanding or while you are working on an acquired production skill and in this sense is very motivational,great insight thanks
Band in a Box is a great place to begin your creation journey and allows you to enjoy success as you grow into the more complex areas of production.
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I'm a little late to this party, and don't have time to read all the posts (what I did read was thoughtful) because I have an early gig today, so excuse me if I'm being redundant. First of all, there is more than one right way to make music, so my way is best for me and may not be best for you. I like my apps separate. Band-in-a-Box (auto accompaniment), MIDI sequencer, notation and DAW. If I am going to use BiaB, I generally start with it, export what I want to keep as a MIDI file and work with that using an old version of Master Tracks Pro. If I want to add audio I'll use a DAW and for what I need, Power Tracks Pro Audio works great. If I want a chart, I'll use an old copy of Encore which works great with Master Tracks Pro. I like separate apps because I work better at one phase at a time (not a great multi-tasker). I find my concentration level to be deeper that way and the output better. Of course I could work on more than one phase in Real Band, but with separate apps, I find the interface less cluttered, no menus with sub menus and sub-sub-menu choices which leaves me to have more time with my hands on musical instruments and less time with my hands on the computer. I have a web page on how I make backing tracks for my duo. Feel free to use what you like and ignore the rest http://nortonmusic.com/backing_tracks.htmlOf course YMMV. Insights and incites by Notes
Bob "Notes" Norton  Norton Music
https://www.nortonmusic.com
100% MIDI Super-Styles recorded by live, pro, studio musicians for a live groove
& Fake Disks for MIDI and/or RealTracks
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Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
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Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
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