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Definition of forum in English:

1 meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.

A website or web page where users can post comments about a particular issue or topic and reply to other users' postings.


Sooo its not a forum.

An Internet forum, or message board, is an online discussion site where people can hold conversations in the form of posted messages.[1] They differ from chat rooms in that messages are often longer than one line of text, and are at least temporarily archived. Also, depending on the access level of a user or the forum set-up, a posted message might need to be approved by a moderator before it becomes visible.




Definitely not a forum .


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Well, to be fair, a forum can legitimately be for sharing and supporting one another. And apparently that is what the showcase is for. Not for critiquing.

And Noel gave you a very reasonable and thoughtful response to your initial post.

What is annoying is when people think they have to attack you for your post, call you names, threaten you, etc. Those are the ones who make the forum far less civil and more cultish IMHO.

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yes thanks johnjohnjohn I had no gripe with Noel as you have noticed.


I was not standing back and being called all sorts.

No way.

but that's because I took another avenue to speak my opinion.

That's not right is it.

If the showcase is not for critiquing then why is everyone doing it good stuff sounds like the beatles , heard the stones in that is that not critiquing '

Although critique is commonly understood as fault finding and negative judgment,[1] it can also involve merit recognition,

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Well, I only know what I read here as I have not posted anything to the showcase. But is seems to be that of a supportive community where people are looking for the good in what is posted there. And that is perfectly legit if that is what the community wants.

With that said, I def feel ya when it comes to hearing the "wow, you are better than anything in the Billboard Top 10" type of comments. They are pure hyperbole and personally I would not want those type of comments on my work. But maybe those posting such comments honestly believe them? Not my place to judge. My personal opinion is I have yet to hear anything on the showcase that rivals any hit songs so I would never give such a comment.

I'd guess for the most part no one here, including yours truly, is writing hit music nor are they likely to any time soon. The industry is already way too crowded with much better talent. And even though we often like to pretend we are as good as "any of that modern crap they call music", it mostly just ain't true! And, I would dare to guess that top talent with a shot at the "big time" prolly aren't spending any time on internet forums arguing about how good their music is! laugh

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Noted john you will be getting your arse slapped shortly from Don for some of that there grammer my boy...!!

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Yeah, no doubt! But maybe I can give you a bit of respite. smile

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COOL


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I find the comments in the user Showcase to be honest and genuine.

I consider people who are able to compose a song, and then perform, arrange, collaborate, produce and publish it to be extremely talented.

For those so eager to offer and encourage criticism, I suggest instead that you post your own compositions, so that we can all learn from them. That is the best form of constructive criticism - to teach by example.


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I have done this Peter.



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I was only saying the forum should open up a bit, then others would be more apt to join in instead of reading the forum , then not joining in as I nearly done.


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HALLELUJAH! HALLELUJAH! HALLELUJAH DR. GANNON!!!!!


HALLELUJAH! HALLELUJAH! HALLELUJAH DR. GANNON!!!!!

AND THANK YOU! AND THANK YOU! AND THANK YOU DR. GANNON!

P.S. You may want to have your guys run an IP address check on some recent identities.

Oh, never mind. I am sure you already know.

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HALLELUJAH! HALLELUJAH! HALLELUJAH DR. GANNON!!!!!


I am going back to the forum showcase and staying there. This stuff is crazy.


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HALLELUJAH! HALLELUJAH! HALLELUJAH DR. GANNON!!!!!


HALLELUJAH! HALLELUJAH! HALLELUJAH DR. GANNON!!!!!

AND THANK YOU! AND THANK YOU! AND THANK YOU DR. GANNON!

P.S. You may want to have your guys run an IP address check on some recent identities.

Oh, never mind. I am sure you already know.

Anyway...


HALLELUJAH! HALLELUJAH! HALLELUJAH DR. GANNON!!!!!


I am going back to the forum showcase and staying there. This stuff is crazy.

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Originally Posted By: beatmaster
WELL thank you all for putting me clearly in the picture I feel as though I am way out of order with my posting yea and sorry.

I guess Noel you are right, and the other posters, I just got a lovely insight into the forum and some of the members, who face trials and tribulations in their life's.

No I did not know any of the facts about members that was brought up in this posting.


Eddie I do not know where you get the notion that it was you being named ..cmon everybody who sings this song yep that eddie.

Hi Beatmaster,

Thank you for your generosity of spirit. I sincerely appreciate your words. I've just awoken. Last night I went to sleep worrying about the fact that I might have said too much or have come across in some negative or angry way that I tried so hard to avoid.

I've discovered that internet forums are one of the most dangerous places on earth when it comes to interpreting what's written. Because one cannot hear and see the author of the text, the nuances of tone and body language are lost and thus valuable aspects of language interpretation leave the building. Once that's done, it's so easy to read nuances into words that were never there when they were typed. I've done it myself and have been offended by something that I later discovered was written without any measure of malice or intentional hurt.

I think JohnJohnJohn's comment about the forum being an "Attaboy" place is insightful and very accurate. For the most part, Users Showcase celebrates the 'doing' without comparing it.

Thanks for taking time to consider things and for being open-minded about re-assessing your views.

Sincerely,
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well thanks Noel


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Yeah, no doubt! But maybe I can give you a bit of respite when john


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Hi Beatmaster,

Thank you for your generosity of spirit. I sincerely appreciate your words. I've just awoken. Last night I went to sleep worrying about the fact that I might have said too much or have come across in some negative or angry way that I tried so hard to avoid.

I've discovered that internet forums are one of the most dangerous places on earth when it comes to interpreting what's written. Because one cannot hear and see the author of the text, the nuances of tone and body language are lost and thus valuable aspects of language interpretation leave the building. Once that's done, it's so easy to read nuances into words that were never there when they were typed. I've done it myself and have been offended by something that I later discovered was written without any measure of malice or intentional hurt.

I think JohnJohnJohn's comment about the forum being an "Attaboy" place is insightful and very accurate. For the most part, Users Showcase celebrates the 'doing' without comparing it.

Thanks for taking time to consider things and for being open-minded about re-assessing your views.

Sincerely,
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JohnJohnJohn: "can't tell if your "wow" is complimentary or sarcastic but I too went and listened to his two songs and they sounded pretty good to me...as good as anything I've heard here in the showcase."

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That's funny I don't care where you're from. John's remarks sound exactly like his comment would be if BeatMaster's song were posted in the User Forum.......


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What do you mean Charlie just causing more problems


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What do you mean Charlie just causing more problems


No problem here. You were likely too busy juicing Don to notice JohnJohnJohn's comment "maybe this is why there is no criticism in the showcase?" before making a pretty standard User Showcase complementary post about your song.

I chose to see the humor in his remark rather than hypocrisy. How about you? Why would you take a complementary remark made by John about your music posted on another site that is so similar to the type of comments that both of you are busy criticising in this thread as some type of problem?


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What do you mean Charlie just causing more problems


No problem here. You were likely too busy juicing Don to notice JohnJohnJohn's comment "maybe this is why there is no criticism in the showcase?"

I chose to see the humor in his remark rather than hypocrisy. How about you? Why would you take a complementary remark made by John about your music posted on another site that is so similar to the type of comments that both of you are busy criticising in this thread as some type of problem?


Criticism is often unwelcome and not dealt with very graciously. I refer you to this very thread as exhibit A! laugh So, not having it in the showcase probably avoids many more of this type of s$#tstorm!

Also, my "complementary remark" was intended more as a reaction to David Snyder's post where he accused the OP of being an imposter, intoxicated, idiotic, very foolish person, illiterate, prankster, moron, drunkard, big fat ugly Internet Troll weighing about 600 pounds, p0rn watcher, coward, stinkin’ sissie,
pathetic, stupid and useless. So I just assumed David meant something negative when he said "Wow" about beatmaster's songs. And I went and listened to both and concluded they were at least as good as anything I've heard here. And I shared that opinion!

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