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Hello, forum friends Recently Yamaha has released Vocaloid 5. Jim Fogle, our forum member introduces it on the following link. http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=482170#Post482170I tried to make a song using it immediately. I bought an upgrade version because I have a previous version. The biggest difference from the previous version is that it has a lot of presets that give expression to vocaloid’s singing. Previously, it was necessary to put various expressions manually one by one, but in this version it is OK just to pick one of the presets. The production time can be shortened considerably, but the pleasure of adjusting Vocaloid by myself is lost instead. I cannot say exactly which is better. Since my recent songs are not suitable for the production, I made the remake version of one of my songs written about 40 years ago. The lyrics are in English written by myself 40 years ago, so I think that there are probably various mistakes in expressions, rhyming and etc. Please forgive my poor English. Any comments encouraged. Always welcome. Best regards. Shigeki Adachi Title: “Intimately Tonight” Vocal: CYBER SONGMAN II, Vocaloid5 Link: https://soundcloud.com/animarorecords/intimately-tonightLink of the original version: (All the tracks were performed by myself about 40 years ago. I recorded all the parts one by one by using Teac's 4 track multi-channel tape recorder A-3340S.) https://soundcloud.com/animarorecords/intimately-tonight-originalStyle is _SPOP128.STY RealTracks in style: ~535:Bass, Electric, Pop Sw 085 RealTracks in song: ~2187:Piano, Electric, Rhythm Jazz Sw 085 RealTracks in style: ~530:Guitar, Acoustic, Strumming Hank Sw 085 RealTracks in style: 2538:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm ModernPopSwingZane Sw 085 RealDrums in Style: Nashville128^01-a:SideStick, b:Ride Lyrics: Please hold me and hug me Intimately beside me Passionately caress me How I long for you You’re fascinating, bewitching Captivating, enchanting Victimizing and tempting Madly I love you No more don’t tease me but soothe me Amorously invite me We’ll get naked completely Let’s make love all night through This love, it’s revolution, sensation Satisfaction, devotion More than passing flirtation I will love you all my life through
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Shigeki
That's the best English vocal sound I've heard from Vocaloid - a significant improvement.
The song has a nice retro vibe (from about 40 years ago I guess!).
Good stuff.
Peter
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I like the original version more but the new one is a terrific example of the program.
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Wonderful post! I can't comment on the vocaloid aspect, I'm not familiar with that software, however:
Lyrics:
Even from 40 years ago, one can see important basic skills here: you identified English syllables with open vowels--those are the easiest for open-throat singing, and, at the same time focused on repeating rhyme patterns. Like songwriters who have successfully attempted to write lyrics in a 2nd language, you used craftman-like care to understand the vocal sounds of certain words to make the song singable---very impressive Shigeki!
Also, several lines are slightly riske' ("we'll get naked, completely")!! But this, also, is seen when writing in a 2nd language; it's difficult to grasp the slight connotation differences between languages, so that is perfectly understandable!
Production:
I listened to both, and here is my suggestion: you should make a "duet" version! At a modulation point, introduce your original! Anyway, I liked both alot.
Thanks for sharing your work, old and new!!
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Wow - this is a brilliant example of both what Band-in-a-Box and Vocaloid are capable of. It seems unjust to compare them, since they sound so sonically different. A very well written song on both of them, and by now I think you've basically mastered the Vocaloid. You did an incredible job here - thanks for sharing with us 
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Shigeki Adachi,
Your work is always impressive. Your melody seems "immediately familiar", as good pop songs often do...
Your English is quite good!
The mix is excellent (as always). The vocaloid is good (yours always are).
Your original version reminded me of early Todd Rundgren - could have been from a Runt record. (The new version did not give me that same feeling - which was interesting).
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Shigeki,
An instantly appealing pop melody with impressive lyrics in your second language. The different versions are fun to compare; if I read your intro correctly, you played everything including the drums 40 years ago?
The vocaloid is good and the mix very professional on the new version...I just wondered how it would sound with your own vocal this time.
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Beautiful song!! You are an amazing melody machine....always so pretty. Vocaloid is quite nice but still would love to hear a singer on this. You are really getting into the 70's with this lyric:
We’ll get naked completely
Let’s make love all night through
Kind of a Harold Melvin and the blue notes thing!
Enjoyed this a lot!! Take care. Greg
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Shigeki, this is an excellent piece of music. The backing tracks fit the genre perfectly and what you did with Vocaloid totally amazes me! You are the king of synthesized vocals!
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We enjoyed both versions. I owned one of those recorders also at about the same time as you.
It sounds like more than just added presets - the quality of that Vocaloid is AMAZING. It's the best we've heard.
As always your composing, arranging and productions skills are something to marvel at.
Great work!
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This is a very pleasant song to listen to. I'd suggest the following pronunciations, although there's really nothing wrong with the way it currently is. Of course, other English speakers would likely have different suggestions. As Tom said, singers use the rounder vowels anyway - a lot of the ih vowels are naturally replaced with different vowels because they're less pretty. Intimately beside me -- "ihn-tih-miht-liy", not "ihn-tih-mayt-liy" Passionately caress me -- "pah-shihn-iht-liy", not "pah-shah-net-liy"; "kuhr-ess", not "ker-ess" Amorously invite me -- "ahm-er-ihs", not "ahm-ohr-uhs" We’ll get naked completely -- "kuhm-pliyt-liy", not "kahm-pliyt-liy" Satisfaction, devotion -- "diy-vow-shun", not "dey-vow-shun" I will love you all my life through -- "luhv", not "lahv" ih as in iniy as in feeter as in birduh as in upIn terms of language, I'd suggest something like "So beguiling" instead of "Victimizing" - the word has negative connotations. There's a lot of leeway as far as grammar goes in songs, but instead of "Madly I love you", try "I love you madly". No one actually speaks like that. Nice!
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Very nice pop melody with 70's feel, would have been a perfect hit for movies of that time, the production feels both retro and modern (thanks to BIAB and your selection of style and instruments, of course) at the same time. How many vocaloid tracks have you used for the backing harmony?
I've also bought Vocaloid 5, but I think the editor is very slow, too much waiting after a small change, especially for my workflow when I import long midi files and write phonemes directly. Also some important job plugins are missing (like time randomize). Well, I can still use the V4 editor and do the fine tuning in V5.
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Hi Shigeki
Thank you for sharing such an interesting post. I listened to the original version first. All I can say is wow! What a big difference. Loved the production on the vocaliod version. Well done!
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Hello, Peter
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
I am always very encouraged by your nice words.
Yes, I also think a significant improvement added.
However, I do not know whether I will use it frequently.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Hello, Rayc
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
And thank you for listening to both versions.
Essentially I also prefer human vocals.
And I just would like to pursue the possibility of vocaloid at the same time.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Hello, Tom
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
I am really glad you like this tune.
Thank you for listening to both versions.
And thank you very much for detailed comments on lyrics,
I think it was reckless because of youth such as writing lyrics in English.
I painfully realize again that English is very difficult today.
As you say, it's difficult to grasp the slight connotation differences between languages.
But someday I would like to write perfect English lyrics.
I am always very encouraged by your kind words.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Impressive througout.
Excellent work on the vocaloid, the technology continues to improve, that's for sure.
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Hello, Deryk
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
I am always very encouraged by your kind words.
Thank you for listening to both versions.
I think both BIAB and Vocaloid are great software. Thanks to those, I was able to bring my old music back to the present age.
Best regards.
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Wow do I love this. Really don't know the vocaloid works but you have it mastered. What a cool song. Well done
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Ok Shigeki, I have to be honest, I like the new version, well mixed as always but I LOVE LOVE LOVE the original!! And the picture! And the hat!! And the lyrics!!!!! John Shigeki Lennon!!!!! Is your wife named Yoko?? Outrageously great!!! Now we're talking!!!! OMG!!! Love it man. P.S. Go Tokyo Electro Acoustic Company. Go Yamaha. Go Team Japan.
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