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Originally Posted By: Jim Fogle
Then there's the rest of the story. If there was a copy feature that permitted data to be copied between multiple open instances of Band-in-a-Box what data should a user reasonably expect to be copied? Once you consider the possibilities you'll better recognize the difficulty. There is chords, midi, audio, bar settings, tempo, style, RealTracks instruments, midi patches, inserts, key signature and on and on with anything else you could possibly imagine.

Wow, good thinking and really good question, Jim.

My answer would be anything I type and enter for chords or MIDI. This would include:

1. the chordsheet with pushes, holds and shots.
2. Any MIDI I entered for the Melody or Soloist
3. Bar settings

It would NOT include the things that could be set (perhaps differently) in the new file:

1. Tempo
2. Style
3. Key signature
4. Mixer settings including Volume, pan etc., MIDI patches, and RealTracks/Drums selected

Another way to think about it is to use word processing as an example. Suppose I have text I want to copy. I highlight the text and paste it into another program. A plain ASCII text file will go over with no formatting. In the new program, I set the font and work on formatting.

The main point is to avoid loss, or retyping, or things you originally typed in. Adjusting how it is treated can be done in the second program.



But ... What if I copy bars 5 through 8 and in instance 1, bar 5 there is a midi patch change from grand piano to bright piano, should the patch change carryover from instance 1 to instance 2? After all, that is a change I made using the bar settings window.


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Yes, good point and I intentionally did not yet address every issue you asked about above. “Bar settings” includes a tremendous amount of stuff.

I think less is more here. My suggestion would be to start with the minimum features I mentioned, even just #1 and 2. Then we would quickly discover what else we forgot to include, and debate how important it is to include that.


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Maybe such a copy function could also simply alert the user of certain events that are not copied. It doesn't have to copy everything, but an informative alert would be a way to acknowledge what has not been included.


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Band-in-a-Box supports copying within a song, checkout page 186 of the Band-in-a-Box for Windows manual for a description of how copy/paste currently works, essentially copy/paste is highlight, Ctrl + C to copy and Ctrl + V to paste. The only thing lacking is for copy/paste to work during multiple instances of the program. I think I have a workable solution!

The current default is a user is limited to having one instance of Band-in-a-Box open, a user has to go into preferences (Ctrl + E or Options > Preferences) to enable the option of enabling more than one instance open at a time. Enabling the open multiple instances should add one step to how to use the copy/paste feature. The steps become highlight bars in one instance of Band-in-a-Box, Ctrl + C opens a window with check boxes to select what data will be copied the cursor is moved to a different bar in any open instance of Band-in-a-Box and Ctrl + V pastes the selected data. The key ideas are what data is available for selection does not change and the data selection window is not relevant and is not used unless the multiple instances option in preferences is selected.


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