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#492517 - 09/24/18 05:25 PM [User Showcase] A Taste Of Honey
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Will Josef Offline
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Here is a song about unconditional love. I really like the vocals - what do you think?

https://soundcloud.com/user-656274325/a-taste-of-honey


RealTracks used:

684- Base Electric
1542 - piano acustic
Realdrums= Nashville even8
698: Guitar (electric rythm)
696: Guitar (electric rythm)

Vocals
and
395: soloist guitar (Darin Favorite)

Enjoy!

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#492536 - 09/24/18 09:18 PM [User Showcase] Re: A Taste Of Honey [Re: Will Josef]
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I like a lot the song.
The vocals sound great for me.
Well done!
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#492581 - 09/25/18 06:23 AM [User Showcase] Re: A Taste Of Honey [Re: Will Josef]
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Really well done! I agree - the vocals are spot on here. Superbly catchy, and not a single note that is remotely close to being off. Who is that?! They nailed it.

Great work, and thanks for sharing smile
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#492653 - 09/25/18 12:24 PM [User Showcase] Re: A Taste Of Honey [Re: Will Josef]
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The vocals are super spot on for this style of song! Really excellent job.
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#492718 - 09/25/18 02:08 PM [User Showcase] Re: A Taste Of Honey [Re: Deryk - PG Music]
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Will Josef Offline
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Thank you!

It is an acapella song I bought and then I composed the backing track for it. Unfortunately I am not allowed to tell who she is (part of the deal/contract).

Will

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#492744 - 09/25/18 03:25 PM [User Showcase] Re: A Taste Of Honey [Re: Will Josef]
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Whoever she is she nailed it and your backing tracks fit perfectly.

Good job on that!
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#492749 - 09/25/18 03:34 PM [User Showcase] Re: A Taste Of Honey [Re: MarioD]
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Will Josef Offline
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Thank you very much, MarioD.

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#492760 - 09/25/18 04:31 PM [User Showcase] Re: A Taste Of Honey [Re: Will Josef]
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Will,

You've done a great job creating a backing for an existing a Capella vocal. That's not an easy task but you really nailed it! Very enjoyable music. The singer certainly is a very competent performer and you've highlighted and matched her style with an excellently arranged backing.

Regards,
Noel
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#492765 - 09/25/18 04:56 PM [User Showcase] Re: A Taste Of Honey [Re: Will Josef]
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Thanks for sharing this with us Will Josef! really dig those drums and the progression on this is exceptional. Well done!
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#492782 - 09/25/18 06:14 PM [User Showcase] Re: A Taste Of Honey [Re: Will Josef]
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Super vocal. Loved the backtrack as well. Very interesting way to create a song. Well done..

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#492926 - 09/26/18 08:43 AM [User Showcase] Re: A Taste Of Honey [Re: Will Josef]
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Love it! Like everybody said before: Great vocals. Would you blow how you gained that sound?
Very well done.

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#492976 - 09/26/18 02:06 PM [User Showcase] Re: A Taste Of Honey [Re: Noel96]
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Thank you very much, Noel. Your words means a lot to me, because you are exactly right: it is quite difficult to make an interesting backing to an acapella. I spent several hours on getting the chord progression to sound reasonably nice.

I actually made a version with maybe 3 times as many chords. The chords were not wrong - it just didn't sound good. Then I remembered my old teachers words: Keep it simple and I think the result is a bit better now.

Thanks again,
Will

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#492977 - 09/26/18 02:09 PM [User Showcase] Re: A Taste Of Honey [Re: Crossroads]
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How did I gain that sound? You are thinking of the vocal, right? I always buy acapellas unprocessed and dry (if possible). In this case I just added reverb and a bit of compression with Ozone 8.

Will

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#492981 - 09/26/18 02:28 PM [User Showcase] Re: A Taste Of Honey [Re: Will Josef]
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A lot of skill and creativity on display in that backing. I'd actually like to hear it leveled more closely to the vocals. Well-done.

Did you use any pushes in this? If not I think it could benefit from some. What instruments "push" is pretty much style-dependent and with the backing so low in the mix, it's hard to tell.

That's my ear report. I hope she likes it too.


Edited by Tangmo (09/26/18 02:29 PM)
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#492984 - 09/26/18 02:35 PM [User Showcase] Re: A Taste Of Honey [Re: Tangmo]
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I think you are right. The backing should probably have been mixed in a bit louder. I think I am guilty of falling in love with her voice to a degree where she gets too much space in the mix...

Thanks for your comments which gives me something to think about.

Will

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#492987 - 09/26/18 02:47 PM [User Showcase] Re: A Taste Of Honey [Re: Will Josef]
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Don't blame you. She's hot.
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#493407 - 09/28/18 11:22 PM [User Showcase] Re: A Taste Of Honey [Re: Will Josef]
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Hello, Will

Super vocal!
Really powerful voice!
I cannot think she is a very amateur vocalist.
There isn't any credit such as her name, but is she active in some club etc. as a professional vocalist?
This song perfect fit her vocal.
It sounds like a song that was just written for her.
Enjoyed my listen a lot.

Best regards.

Shigeki Adachi

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#493491 - 09/29/18 02:50 PM [User Showcase] Re: A Taste Of Honey [Re: animarorecords]
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Will Josef Offline
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Thank you, Shigeki.

I am sorry, but as I wrote in an earlier post I cannot give details about her. She is certainly not an amateur, but that is all I am allowed to say.

I don't know why it is like this, but many people who sell acapellas don't want their name associated with the music that the buyers make.

Take care,
Will

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#493632 - 09/30/18 04:05 PM [User Showcase] Re: A Taste Of Honey [Re: Will Josef]
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Will, this is outstanding! I like the result of your work, and this is expert use of the BIAB RT's!

I don't really understand what you did here...was the vocal a pre-existing track that you purchased? How? You then built up a chord sheet and orchestrated behind it?
I'm interested in learning more.

Nonetheless, I really enjoyed listening!

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#493641 - 09/30/18 05:07 PM [User Showcase] Re: A Taste Of Honey [Re: Tano Music]
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Hi Tano Music,

Thank you for your kind words!

Yes, I purchased the vocals for this song. Then I sat down with my keyboard and tried to play the melody and find appropriate chords. In this process I will often have way too many chords, so the next step is to simplify and find the basic chords that will sound good as a backing track for the song.

Then I start using BiaB with the simplified chords and the audio, but that will often be a little boring to listen to, so next step is to make some interesting transitions between the chords, which will make the music more lively.

In this song I sometimes changes a progression like
Bm /G /D /A
to
Bm BmMaj7/Bm7 Bm6/D7 /A

but of course you always have to use you ears and only do it if it sounds good together with the vocals.

I hope that helps you a little.

Take care,
Will

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