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I'm thinking Mario is dragging an MP3, MIDI or WAV file from Biab into the DAW. But let's get a clarification.
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Depends on your price bracket and what you are doing. I have had Sonar for years, it is now free but you don’t get the goodies. Sonar is great for MIDI editing but I am used to it. These days for the final mix etc I use Reaper (US$60). With Reaper there are heaps of plugins, many many videos to teach you how to use it. For manipulating audio files it is the best I have used. Very easy to setup projects and insert the wav files I export from BIAB. I tend to export a song into its own folder using export wav then simply drag and drop into Reaper. Could not be easier.
Yep Reaper +1
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I'm a new user to DAW and looking for the best DAW for BIAB. Can you share your opinion ? Thanks Vincente One of the nice things about Reaper is that you can evaluate it as long as you like, without paying for it. Having said that, as pointed out above, it is very cheap, and has a tonne of features. It also has a very small 'footprint' in terms of the space it takes on your computer. Another possibility - but only if you have a Mac - is GarageBand. This comes free with every Mac and is a really fun DAW to use. Limited in some ways, but if you are new to the world of DAWs, I think it is a perfect DAW to 'learn' on. It has a lot of loops (unlike Reaper). Good luck with this.
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Hi Mike,
I'm sorry, but I (partly) disagree with you about Ableton Live. It can be a an amazing tool for composing if you are in doubt about how to build your song - like where should the different parts (verses, bridge, chorus, solos) be and in what order, because you can easily audition the different possibilities in Ableton by using the exact same tools as DJ's would use in a live situation. I found a lot of inspiration by moving parts of a composition around to see what new sonic/inspiring things would happen. That's quicker to do in Ableton than in BiaB.
I hope I make sense (not sure about that).
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Yes i hear what you say and I agree, it is a powerful tool in fact I have 8 lite and have used it.. I just thought that the multi column layout and work flow so different to a normal linear DAW that it might be a bit much for a new daw user. Mike
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Another possibility - but only if you have a Mac - is GarageBand. This comes free with every Mac and is a really fun DAW to use.
The O/P's signature states: _________________________ WIN10 OS build 1803, 8MB, 500GB SSD. BIAB2018, build 516, UltraPaK I suspect they are not using Mac.
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I'm thinking Mario is dragging an MP3, MIDI or WAV file from Biab into the DAW. But let's get a clarification. Yes. I am using the DAW Mode drag and drop in BiaB to load MIDI, RDs and RTs into Studio One. This is the same practice you use in most DAWs is it not? Realband off course is the only DAW that you can load BiaB native files.
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Again, thank you all for your inputs. I'm really appreciated. Most of you refer the REAPER DAW for your work flow/cost with Biab. I'll take your inputs and will give it a try Thanks Vincente
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Yes. I am using the DAW Mode drag and drop in BiaB to load MIDI, RDs and RTs into Studio One. This is the same practice you use in most DAWs is it not? Absolutely. We're all working from the same page here . BiaB native files are only supported by RealBand, but MIDI and Audio drag-and-drop are supported by most DAW's.
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Again, thank you all for your inputs. I'm really appreciated. Most of you refer the REAPER DAW for your work flow/cost with Biab. I'll take your inputs and will it a try Thanks Vincente Trust me, you can't go wrong with Reaper. There is of course a learning curve. But the Reaper Forum along with this forum can be a very good and friendly help for newbees. MIDI and Audio drag-and-drop are supported by most DAW's. Including Reaper.
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WIN11 OS build 23H2, 16MB, 1TG SSD. BIAB2024, build 1109, MegaPaK
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Stand alone digital multi track recorders such as the Zoom R8,R16,R24, L12, L24; Tascam DP-008,DP03 and DP-24,Dp-32 or the new D-24 all have proprietary DAW built in. The learning curve is better than any software DAW. The units are rock solid, some also double as an Audio Interface, will vary from two to 24 inputs and regardless of the actual channel count, can produce dozens of tracks. They are mobile, make great field recorders, have actual faders and knobs and normally the menu's do not go very deep. They all work flawlessly with BIAB tracks.
They can easily transfer audio files to and from a computer DAW and very seldom malfunction or crash.
Cost can be less than $100 used to just over $100 new to thousands depending on what you buy.
They operate as simply as turning it on, plugging in Mic's and line level inputs such as keys, electric guitars, etc, opening a song, select tracks, hit record and you're off. No drivers, sound cards, finicky plug-ins or wacky OS's.
You can learn a unit inside/out in a day...
They're not as fancy or popular as DAW's but at the end of the day, you can record, edit and publish a song from start to finish literally in the box --- The real box....
Hi Vincente, and Charlie. I agree with Charlie in most of what he said above. In fact, I (stupidly) worry about what workflow I should standardize for myself, sometimes thinking that I should stick to using a computer (DAW) for all of my workflow, or whether I should use my Zoom R16 for tracking, and then transfer the tracks to Reaper. When I finally get BIAB, the question will be - "Should I do everything I can in BIAB, and then transfer the files to Reaper for final tracking and editing, or should I copy some of the BIAB files to my Zoom R16, track there, and then take all of that to Reaper?" The reason that I struggle with this is that I find it really enjoyable to have the physical controls (such as faders) on the Zoom. Here are some things that one might want to bear in mind about the Zoom R16 and R24 1. The R16 does not have any sort of drum track 2. The R24's 'drum machine' is terrible - really awkward to use 3. Both the R16 and R24 can be used in three ways: as a stand-alone recorder; as an audio interface; and as a control surface (to provide physical mixing controls - faders! - when connecting with a computer DAW) 4. In practice, the preamps in the R16 (and, I presume in the R24) sometimes provide barely enough gain to get a good signal when using the R16 as an audio interface
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"Should I do everything I can in BIAB, and then transfer the files to Reaper for final tracking and editing, Yes, Yes a 100x Yes. Or, "... well that's the way I do it". One thing you should quickly learn about Reaper, which has not been mentioned and was not one of your criteria, but Reaper is "rock solid". Meaning it does not freeze of fail. Once you start working in Reaper you will learn how wonderful that is. good luck.
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If you want hardware faders you can probably use the Zoom 16 to control the mixer in Reaper. Then you have the best of both worlds.
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I know this will make folks mad BUT if your new to DAW use buy Power Tracks Pro. It's 29 dollars and has 100s of features you'll know about howevr that's better than Reaper,etc. that'll have 1000s of features you know nothing about. PT will keep the waters less muddy and works perfectly as an add on to BIAB. JohnnyD
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Maybe worth a look .... Tracktion 7 ... it's free these days they say. F
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...Power Tracks Pro... JohnnyD This is a good suggestion, to keep things simple when first learning about a DAW. RealBand, provided free bundled with the Windows version of BIAB, is basically Power Tracks Pro minus a feature or two (forgot which).
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Hi all
Yes almost any Daw that you are willing to learn. Having said that I would not go for specialist programs like Ableton Live 8 and its successors as they are aimed more at live DJ clubbing work, and calling up sound loops. Triggered from a controller keyboard or special control suface.. Normal midi handling is not typical and you may well struggle using with BIAB Just my thoughts Mike While each his own I could not disagree with this more. Ableton is a great tool for full Music production and has some great work flows for working with tracks, both audio and MIDI, exported from BIAB. The slicing and rearranging of clips in session view gives great flexibility and a rather quick work flow when working multiple passes of tracks generated by BIAB. Then moving these over to arrangement view to do final mix it works just like any other DAW. This does not even mention the built in audio to MIDI functionality that works pretty well.
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One DAW not mentioned up to this point is +++ MultiTrack Studio +++. It is advertised as Audio/MIDI multitrack recording software for Windows/Mac and iPad . The program's claim to fame is the program has a built-in midi sound module and the sound module sounds REALLY good. All the sounds are modeled, not samples, so the program does not take up much storage space. Of course the program can also use VSTi and external midi instruments.
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...Power Tracks Pro... JohnnyD This is a good suggestion, to keep things simple when first learning about a DAW. RealBand, provided free bundled with the Windows version of BIAB, is basically Power Tracks Pro minus a feature or two (forgot which). We're old school Matt. LOL I approach a DAW like a tape machine on lots of steroids.
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"Should I do everything I can in BIAB, and then transfer the files to Reaper for final tracking and editing, Yes, Yes a 100x Yes. Or, "... well that's the way I do it". One thing you should quickly learn about Reaper, which has not been mentioned and was not one of your criteria, but Reaper is "rock solid". Meaning it does not freeze of fail. Once you start working in Reaper you will learn how wonderful that is. good luck. Hi Dan, Thanks for this. Actually, Reaper might not freeze in the traditional sense of the word when applied to DAWs, but there is one conflict/problem that has stymied users over different versions and has meant that some people have had to reinstall Reaper. I wish that I could remember what that was, but it was a couple of years ago I last read about it, and my memory is no longer that good. But overall, yes, it is rock solid.
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