Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
#497798 10/25/18 11:22 PM
User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,378
Tangmo Offline OP
Expert
OP Offline
Expert
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,378
This is a remixed version of an older song. While I had lost the .sgu, I was able to find the midi I'd saved in order to embellish this song, which I'd always considered too thin. I also found the original DAW "mix" file which made things much easier.

The original style was:
Style is DRJONROK.STY (Dr. Jon Rock Blues)

I used:
Style MIDI Instruments are : Acoustic String Bass (33), Acoustic Piano (1), Clean Electric Guit (28), MIDI Drums :1 Standard Drum Kit (1)

But I sent the drums through the synth on separate tracks.

For this up-date, I added:
RealTracks in song: 2619:Organ, Rhythm Funk Ev 100 and RealTracks in song: ~2489:Bass, Acoustic, Bowed HeldSimple Ev 110.

The latter became the "drone" asked about in the ever increasingly hilarious thread I started a few days ago. Though it doesn't hold the same note (occasionally jumps up a 5th and down to something), it served the purpose. I raised it an octave in DAW (Acid Pro 8) and applied a delay to it.

Why is it there? I wrote this progression originally for an aborted collab with a didgeridoo player. When that failed to happen, I "restyled it" and wrote this song. One of many great benefits of BIAB. So it's there to accentuate the progression and add a little color in the low mids...or it it the high lows?

[Link no longer valid]

Edit: I agree with most of the constructive comments below, so I did what I should have done in the first place--add the organ and "drone" to the original file to "fatten it up". I could not, however, find a real drum to work over this groove. Here's the link to the new mix.

FRIDA rmx

The lyric is delivered in an ambiguous way on purpose. The original tagline was "Free to do what you want". That morphed to "Frida'll do what she wants". Ultimately, it's somewhere in between, and it matters nothing to me how you "hear" it. But since I have to post the lyric, I'll post the "official" one.

FRIDA

Cherry lipstick smeared in haste
only wears it cuz she likes the taste
She don't need no chi-chi pretty boy like you.

Chorus:

Frida do what she want
Frida do what she want
She do what she wants
and she wants to do just what she wants to do.

Daddy's money should suffice
but that don't keep her from shooting dice
She don't want no button-down dude like you

She loves her Lenin, hits her Marx
She do the Mao-Mao shooting sparks
She don't need no baby bourgeois boy like you.

Other girls paint their faces just to walk down the hall
Frida paints her face on the wall, ya'll

Ratty bookstore, portrait stall
She don't need 'em but she owns 'em all
She don't want no paper MBA like you.

Music and Lyrics Tangmo 2008

I have no love for her politics, but I love this character. She was created from multiple influences.



Last edited by Andrew - PG Music; 08/26/20 02:26 PM.

BIAB 2021 Audiophile. Windows 10 64bit. Songwriter, lyricist, composer(?) loving all styles. Some pre-BIAB music from Farfetched Tangmo Band's first CD. https://alonetone.com/tangmo/playlists/close-to-the-ground
Tangmo #497799 10/25/18 11:39 PM
User Showcase
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,089
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,089
Yeah!! Love this.

So many great lines! I think my favorite is:

"Daddy's money should suffice
but that don't keep her from shooting dice
She don't want no button-down dude like you"

but they are all good, just excellent songwriting IMHO. Vocal sounds great too!

Nice one Tangmo, I hope you keep posting some of these older songs of yours.

Tangmo #497813 10/26/18 02:15 AM
User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,635
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,635
Tangmo,

A VERY cool song. Excellent write.

Your lyrics (often) have a really nice level of "added humor" - just the right amount to embellish without calling too much attention. Nice.

This is well put together. It does, however, have "that MIDI sound" to it. Not "a bad thing", but I would think a re-do with RealTracks would send this through the roof. The John Jarvis or Kevin McKendree piano tracks would kill on this...

Enjoyed!

fj

Tangmo #497826 10/26/18 03:59 AM
User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 7,522
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 7,522
Excellent tune. I got a little Dr Hook vibe when the song first started. Excellent vocal. Well done. Guitar was cool


Scott Collingwood
https://soundcloud.com/scottt709
https://soundcloud.com/spiritlevel-ca
https://www.youtube.com/@SpiritLevel-ge3hm/
Tangmo #497833 10/26/18 04:38 AM
User Showcase
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,426
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,426
An intriguing listen Tangmo, with the cleverest lyrics I've heard in a long while. The guitar lick and odd ending added to the air of mystery and quirkiness.
A fun listen, thanks!

John


Songs web site
YouTube Channel
BIAB 2019
Cakewalk by BandLab
Studio One 4
Tangmo #497848 10/26/18 05:22 AM
User Showcase
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 3,414
PG Music Staff
Offline
PG Music Staff
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 3,414
What a tune! I thoroughly enjoyed this - it has a really distinct 70's vibe to it. Love the groove, love the piano, and love your vocals. It vaguely reminds of Elton John at points. Not to mention, your lyrics here are really creative and well thought out. As someone else mentioned, this just shows a strong understanding of songwriting.

You should be proud of this one - wouldn't change a thing smile Thanks for sharing!


Cheers,
Deryk
Tangmo #497867 10/26/18 08:25 AM
User Showcase
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,664
PG Music Staff
Offline
PG Music Staff
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,664
Hey Tangmo, fantastic choice of instrumentation on this. The different elements really glue well together and the chord progression is exceptional. Love the vocals too. Great work!

Last edited by Joe -PG Music; 10/27/18 12:46 PM.

Cheers,
Joe
Tangmo #497873 10/26/18 09:00 AM
User Showcase
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 5,755
Veteran
Online Content
Veteran
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 5,755
Tangmo, nice one!

RealDrums are crying and waiting for you to solder them into this great tune smile

Tangmo #497887 10/26/18 10:36 AM
User Showcase
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,360
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,360
Really nice groove

love the write, quirky, catchy, and clever

good recording and vocal,

enjoyed the heck out of it,

Kenny

Tangmo #497926 10/26/18 01:49 PM
User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 6,578
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 6,578
Tangmo,

What a great sound! Outstanding song and vocal. Great production qualities as well.

Bob

Tangmo #497944 10/26/18 03:04 PM
User Showcase
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 6,214
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 6,214
It's a good, good song though the backing seems a little tame.
Your statement that "...it matters nothing to me how you "hear" it." seems a little odd.


Cheers
rayc
"What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
rayc #497954 10/26/18 03:26 PM
User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,378
Tangmo Offline OP
Expert
OP Offline
Expert
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,378
Thanks all for the listens and comments.

Originally Posted By: rayc
It's a good, good song though the backing seems a little tame.
Your statement that "...it matters nothing to me how you "hear" it." seems a little odd.


I was talking about the ambiguity of the lyric/delivery. Of course I care how anyone hears the song as an entity, but I don't care if they "misunderstand" the lyric without a lyric sheet. In fact, if they do, it's part of the reason why I sang it so loosely and with such poor grammar. Let 'em make up their own mind.

I was even reluctant to name the song "Frida" because it skews the perception. "Free ta do whatchu want" is a terrible title, though, and just skews it the other way. smile

I never once understood Dylan on first listen.

Last edited by Tangmo; 10/26/18 03:38 PM.

BIAB 2021 Audiophile. Windows 10 64bit. Songwriter, lyricist, composer(?) loving all styles. Some pre-BIAB music from Farfetched Tangmo Band's first CD. https://alonetone.com/tangmo/playlists/close-to-the-ground
Tangmo #497966 10/26/18 04:32 PM
User Showcase
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,838
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,838
Tangmo,

Thank you for the journey! I liked it smile

As I listened, in my mind I could hear how you might have incorporated the drone of the didgeridoo. I would have loved to heard the original version.

You entertained me. The lines...

Quote:
Other girls paint their faces just to walk down the hall
Frida paints her face on the wall, ya'll

...made me smile. I love the attitude that these captured and the image that they created using so few words. That's skill!

All the best,
Noel


MY SONGS...
Audiophile BIAB 2024
Noel96 #497992 10/27/18 03:12 AM
User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,378
Tangmo Offline OP
Expert
OP Offline
Expert
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,378
Thanks, Noel. That "Y'all" was ad-libbed at the mic. It made me smile too.

I've put up an alternative mix in the OP. Take your pick. No Real Drums, but more power, I think.

Last edited by Tangmo; 10/27/18 03:15 AM.

BIAB 2021 Audiophile. Windows 10 64bit. Songwriter, lyricist, composer(?) loving all styles. Some pre-BIAB music from Farfetched Tangmo Band's first CD. https://alonetone.com/tangmo/playlists/close-to-the-ground
Tangmo #498016 10/27/18 05:23 AM
User Showcase
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,831
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,831
I love the lyrics! Great write! Your opening verse is masterful!

It's got a great groove. Rock with rag-time piano - love it.

I didn't even know BIAB had a Dr. John style.


Consider me inspired!

Tangmo #498073 10/27/18 11:05 AM
User Showcase
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 3,357
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 3,357
Tangmo,
That`s a clever, funny write which your vocal delivery captures with the right attitude.The play on words with the title is one of those hidden nuggets which some will discover without explanation.
The backing sounds ok, though I agree with Floyd it could be a lot funkier with RT`s. Must be hard to know when to redo songs you already worked on with older tools, but there`s obviously some gems in the Farfetched vault!

Robert

Tangmo #498076 10/27/18 11:39 AM
User Showcase
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 6,214
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 6,214
Originally Posted By: Tangmo
Thanks all for the listens and comments.

I was talking about the ambiguity of the lyric/delivery. Of course I care how anyone hears the song as an entity, but I don't care if they "misunderstand" the lyric without a lyric sheet.

Much clearer for my poor mind - thanks!


Cheers
rayc
"What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
Tangmo #498078 10/27/18 11:59 AM
User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,378
Tangmo Offline OP
Expert
OP Offline
Expert
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,378
That Dr John midi style delivered the hooky licks in piano and guitar, and none of the sounds are GM stock. All went through the Kurzweil. Midi also played the chords I asked for in this somewhat jazzier blues thing to keep that D prominent.

I don't think this song would be the same completely "re-styled". It'd be a bit like taking Harrison or Richards out of the Beatles or Stones. Sure, there are better players, but their licks made the songs.

Not all styles are so hooky, and I am working on a redo of Mr Jay completely with RT and RD. It seems to be working under the vocals better, but it's harder than Dave made it sound due the way the original was put together.


BIAB 2021 Audiophile. Windows 10 64bit. Songwriter, lyricist, composer(?) loving all styles. Some pre-BIAB music from Farfetched Tangmo Band's first CD. https://alonetone.com/tangmo/playlists/close-to-the-ground
Tangmo #498130 10/27/18 06:53 PM
User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,473
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,473
Really nice songwriting. Enjoyed the lyric the melody and the overall vibe.
Excellent work.

Peter

Tangmo #498142 10/27/18 08:58 PM
User Showcase
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 1,815
D
Expert
Offline
Expert
D
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 1,815
Tangmo,

Listening to the FRIDA rmx . . . like how you morphed the chorus lyrics from “free to” to “Frida”—gives the song just that extra sound, vibe (not sure how to express it, but it’s just darn good). Everything works for me in this one. Could easily see this killing live. Well done, Tangmo—really good stuff!

All the best,

Deej

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!

The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!

There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.

If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.

We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!

Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!

We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!

There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.

Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.

Thank you to everyone who has contributed!

Video: Volume Automation in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®

We've created a video to help you learn more about the Volume Automation options in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows.

Band-in-a-Box® 2024: Volume Automation

www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024full/chapter11.htm#volume-automation

Video: Audio Input Monitoring with Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®

We've created this short video to explain Audio Input Monitoring within Band-in-a-Box® 2024, and included some tips & troubleshooting details too!

Band-in-a-Box® 2024: Audio Input Monitoring

3:17: Tips
5:10: Troubleshooting

www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024full/chapter11.htm#audio-input-monitoring

Video: Enhanced Melodists in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®!

We've enhanced the Melodists feature included in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows!

Access the Melodist feature by pressing F7 in the program to open the new MultiPicker Library and locate the [Melodist] tab.

You can now generate a melody on any track in the program - very handy! Plus, you select how much of the melody you want generated - specify a range, or apply it to the whole track.

See the Melodist in action with our video, Band-in-a-Box® 2024: The Melodist Window.

Learn even more about the enhancements to the Melodist feature in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024upgrade/chapter3.htm#enhanced-melodist

Band-in-a-Box® 2024 DAW Plugin Version 6: New Features Specifically for Reaper®

New with the DAW Plugin Version 6.0, released with Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows: the Reaper® Panel!

This new panel offers built-in specific support for the Reaper® DAW API allowing direct transfer of Band-in-a-Box® files to/from Reaper® tracks!

When you run the Plugin from Reaper®, there is a panel to set the following options:
-BB Track(s) to send: This allows you to select the Plugin tracks that will be sent Reaper.
-Destination Reaper Track: This lets you select the destination Reaper track to receive media content from the Plugin.
-At Bar: You can select a bar in Reaper where the Plugin tracks should be placed.
-Start Below Selected Track: This allows you to place the Plugin tracks below the destination Reaper track.
-Overwrite Reaper Track: You can overwrite previous content on the destination Reaper track.
-Move to Project Folder: With this option, you can move the Plugin tracks to the Reaper project folder.
-Send Reaper Instructions Enable this option to send the Reaper Instructions instead of rendering audio tracks, which is faster.
-Render Audio & Instructions: Enable this option to generate audio files and the Reaper instructions.
-Send Tracks After Generating: This allows the Plugin to automatically send tracks to Reaper after generating.
-Send Audio for MIDI Track: Enable this option to send rendered audio for MIDI tracks.
-Send RealCharts with Audio: If this option is enabled, Enable this option to send RealCharts with audio.

Check out this video highlighting the new Reaper®-specific features: Band-in-a-Box® DAW Plugin Version 6: New Features Specifically for Reaper®

Band-in-a-Box® 2024 DAW Plugin Version 6: New Features Video

The new Band-in-a-Box VST DAW Plugin Verion 6 adds over 20 new features!

Watch the new features video to learn more: Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2024 - DAW Plugin Version 6 New Features

We also list these new features at www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.plugin.htm.

Forum Statistics
Forums66
Topics81,394
Posts732,478
Members38,441
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
Newest Members
zagrajbarke, Ernest J, Izzy, BenChaz, Csofi
38,440 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 195
Al-David 124
DC Ron 112
dcuny 87
rsdean 83
Today's Birthdays
CeeDee, SethMould
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5