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Band-in-a-Box® 2019 Features
There are many exciting new features in Band-in-a-Box 2019! First off is our brand-new 64-bit version of Band-in-a-Box®, which works well with the latest plugins and 64-bit OS features! We include both the 64-bit and 32-bit versions, so users of 32-bit Windows® OS can still run Band-in-a-Box® 2019. We’ve also made and include a 64-bit VST Plugin of Band-in-a-Box®, which you can use inside your favorite DAW (Cakewalk, Reaper, ProTools, etc.) to generate styles, RealTracks, RealDrums, Multi-Riffs, etc. We include a 64-bit GM MIDI synth VSTSynthFont64 with default GM soundfonts, allowing you to specify any GM soundfont even larger ones (up to 2 GB).
Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper
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Looks like everyone is totally dumbstruck, wow we never expected that!
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Lets all be a bit cautious here, but if this is what it appears to be, this could change everything: a 64-bit VST Plugin of Band-in-a-Box®, which you can use inside your favorite DAW (Cakewalk, Reaper, ProTools, etc.) to generate styles, RealTracks, RealDrums, Multi-Riffs, etc.
Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper
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It is what it appears to be.
Be aware there will be a few growing pains.
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I'll be upgrading but the following interests me..............
We include a 64-bit GM MIDI synth VSTSynthFont64 with default GM soundfonts, allowing you to specify any GM soundfont even larger ones (up to 2 GB).
I have both the Edirol Hypercanvas and coyote forte as soft synths and mix and match the midi sounds as some are better than others.
But will the VSTSynthFont64 give me a better sound? I know its all down to individual taste but the Hypercnavas is now a bit long in the tooth and I am really not up to date with these improvements!
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Bob, others will know better because I haven't tried the new one yet (I use a hardware MIDI synth).
The general principle is two-fold: to give users of the 64-bit version of BIAB something they can use, and to offer flexibility to easily use other soundfonts and 64-bit libraries you may have. I think it's going to depend entirely on the quality of what you load into this new synth. You're already well aware that different libraries have different strengths since you mix and match.
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I have both the Edirol Hypercanvas and coyote forte as soft synths and mix and match the midi sounds as some are better than others. Speaking of Coyote Forte, I understand that the current one won't run with the 64-bit BiaB but a new 64-bit version of Forte could be on the way.
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OMG...if what they are saying is true...this is GROUNDBREAKING!
I had seriously considered sitting out this upgrade and now I cannot seem to type my credit card info fast enough to complete my order! A real Christmas morning level of excitement here!
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That's the way to the future, thumb up for BiaB
WIN11 OS build 23H2, 16MB, 1TG SSD.
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so is it true that coyote won't work any more? the edirol is elderly too so maybe i'll have to master the new technology
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The package will include both 32-bit and 64-bit BIAB. Coyote (WT or Forte) Dxi will only work in the 32-bit version for now. I understand that Coyote Electronics is supposed to be releasing 64-bit Dxi's at some point. If you absolutely need to use Coyote (either the WT or the Forte), you'll have to use 32-bit BIAB for now.
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FWIW, one of the first things I did during beta was try loading the Chaos 12 meg GM soundfont into the new VSTSynthFont64. Worked just fine. This opens a lot of possibilities for new sounds. Felt like the RoadRunner .. leaving Coyote behind in the dust.  MBeep Beep
Make your sound your own!
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OMG...if what they are saying is true...this is GROUNDBREAKING!
I had seriously considered sitting out this upgrade and now I cannot seem to type my credit card info fast enough to complete my order! A real Christmas morning level of excitement here! Thanks JJJ: https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=308462#Post308462...
On the other hand, if they asked me, my advice would be to get to work on a VSTi version of BIAB in parallel with the current upgrade cycle. They could start basic...maybe build bridge technology to work between the DAW and the BIAB core...get a simple GUI designed that just handles the RT selection. Get rid of ALL of the volume, panning, f/x, etc. and just let me apply those using my plugs in my DAW! Basically strip out everything that is already available in my DAW. Leave nothing but the RT engine and interface to work as a VSTi.
Now THAT is a KILLER product! Does not hurt the existing BIAB crowd at all. We keep upgrading for the next 5 years. But, in the meantime, you are building PG's next breakthrough, game-changing products! And somewhere down the line you quietly retire BIAB as the VSTi version becomes the bread-and-butter product!
Can you imagine the excitement there would be over a VSTi that was based on RealTracks? It would put every MIDI/Sample-based product to shame! I own a ton of really nice sounding sample libraries but the amount of work I have to put in to make something that 1) sounds great while 2) not sounding canned is way too much whereas, with BIAB, I can rough something together in less than an hour that cannot be discerned from a real band!
One more bit of advice...DO NOT NAME IT BAND IN A BOX (but def keep the RealTracks brand)! Hire a really good marketing team with recent experience/success in state-of-the-art digital instrument marketing to come up with an Apple-worthy product name, branding, campaign, etc.
I should get a marketing job (if I'm so smart), right?
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OMG...if what they are saying is true...this is GROUNDBREAKING!
I had seriously considered sitting out this upgrade and now I cannot seem to type my credit card info fast enough to complete my order! A real Christmas morning level of excitement here! Thanks JJJ: https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=308462#Post308462...
On the other hand, if they asked me, my advice would be to get to work on a VSTi version of BIAB in parallel with the current upgrade cycle. They could start basic...maybe build bridge technology to work between the DAW and the BIAB core...get a simple GUI designed that just handles the RT selection. Get rid of ALL of the volume, panning, f/x, etc. and just let me apply those using my plugs in my DAW! Basically strip out everything that is already available in my DAW. Leave nothing but the RT engine and interface to work as a VSTi.
Now THAT is a KILLER product! Does not hurt the existing BIAB crowd at all. We keep upgrading for the next 5 years. But, in the meantime, you are building PG's next breakthrough, game-changing products! And somewhere down the line you quietly retire BIAB as the VSTi version becomes the bread-and-butter product!
Can you imagine the excitement there would be over a VSTi that was based on RealTracks? It would put every MIDI/Sample-based product to shame! I own a ton of really nice sounding sample libraries but the amount of work I have to put in to make something that 1) sounds great while 2) not sounding canned is way too much whereas, with BIAB, I can rough something together in less than an hour that cannot be discerned from a real band!
One more bit of advice...DO NOT NAME IT BAND IN A BOX (but def keep the RealTracks brand)! Hire a really good marketing team with recent experience/success in state-of-the-art digital instrument marketing to come up with an Apple-worthy product name, branding, campaign, etc.
I should get a marketing job (if I'm so smart), right? Wow! Has it really been 6-1/2 years??? 
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One more bit of advice...DO NOT NAME IT BAND IN A BOX (but def keep the RealTracks brand)! Hire a really good marketing team with recent experience/success in state-of-the-art digital instrument marketing to come up with an Apple-worthy product name, branding, campaign, etc. Sorry you couln't get a new name, I suppose a rose by any name...
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thanks rharv - you think a soundfont will sound better than forte? i haven't loaded a soundfont for years since i used a creative card as my midi player
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Be aware there will be a few growing pains. Feels like you are cautioning us to not get our hopes too high... 
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Looks like they would know ?.
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thanks rharv - you think a soundfont will sound better than forte? i haven't loaded a soundfont for years since i used a creative card as my midi player Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. First make sure you are distinguishing between Coyote and Coyote Forte. Coyote (not Coyote Forte) is much less impressive as it uses the windows sound set. Forte is better But yes, many fonts I have sound better than the Forte to me (though Forte is great for what it is). The point was the ability to pick/choose your options on a given project.
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Make your sound your own!
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But will the VSTSynthFont64 give me a better sound? I know its all down to individual taste but the Hypercnavas is now a bit long in the tooth and I am really not up to date with these improvements! Personally I think so, it sounds pretty good to me and that's with the included soundset. If this thing can take up to 2 gigs of content you can get it sounding a whole lot better than that. One thing you have to keep in mind is all of your synths are either free or very low cost. None are close to a commercial high end synth that you have to pay from several hundred (Sampletank) to almost a thousand (Kontakt, Halion, etc). And then there's hardware like the Ketron, Roland and others that are from $400-$1,600. It's all relative to your cost/benefit scenario. Bob
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Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
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Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
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