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Hi all
Do I need it .
Well I can see the 64 bit version is causing quite a bit of excitement on here , after many discussions in the past and wish list for it.
But I have to ask do I really need it in 64 bit the only difference seems to be in the actual exe program , all the underlying programme itself seem to be the same for both versions to preserve compatibility with 32 bit users ,
So if I don’t want or need to integrate with other 64 bit bits and bobs.
What am I gaining I do have 64 bit windows but have been fine with the 32 bit version.
Does the 64 bit version take up more resources by padding out the 32 bit underlying stuff to make it run in 64.
Just my thoughts I will buy it anyway but may still run as 32 unless you can convince me otherwise you 64 bit fans
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Mike
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Hi Mike,
I think the answer is what do you do with BiaB. If you run RTs and RDs then 32 bit might be your best choice. If you run 64 bit VSTis and/or use 64 bit effects then the 64 bit version should be better as there would be no workarounds like jBridge needed.
Also are we sure that the underlying program is identical for both versions? My bet is on they optimized BiaB for 64 bit so there would be some differences between both versions.
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Mike, since you are upgrading to 2019, you will have both versions to try out.
Myself, I am happy with the 64bit version since all of my other audio programs I use are 64bit also.
Best thing to do is to run both versions and if you see something in the 64bit version that works better for you, us it. Otherwise stay with the 32bit version.
I prefer the x64 versions. One thing that has changed my mind is that I no longer have BIAB momentarily stall while loading or running other memory hungry programs like I used to have with the 2014,2015,2016,2017 and 2018 32bit versions. That problem was constantly happening.
I have ran Excel, Word, Reaper, Outlook, File Explorer, Notepad++, Amazing Slowdowner, TablEdit, VLC Media Player, Transcribe and a slew of smaller programs and utilities all at the same time trying my best to make the x64 version stumble but so far have been unable to.
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Also are we sure that the underlying program is identical for both versions? My bet is on they optimized BiaB for 64 bit so there would be some differences between both versions.
Mario, I believe Peter Gannon said that the two versions were compiled together, which would indicate they are (or should be) identical.
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So far nobody has found any difference in functionality other than the PG effects won't work but they should be in 64 bit later on. For now if you like using those effects use 32 bit.
The real reason imho for 64 bit is the VST plugin plus the marketing aspect of it. Mo more complaints and five page threads about why isn't Biab 64 bit which is a good thing.
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Hi
Thank you all for your responses.
As I thought then no point in me running 64 bit then, as 32 does all I want.
No point in risking a bigger foot print than I need , something I am still not certain about that, any one know if the running program footprint is more if running 64 bit
From the PCs point of view. Leaving less resources for running other programs at the same time say, Word or Adobe photo shop for editing screen shots etc.
Mike
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... I no longer have BIAB momentarily stall while loading or running other memory hungry programs like I used to have with the ... 32bit versions. That problem was constantly happening.
I have ran ... a slew of smaller programs and utilities all at the same time trying my best to make the x64 version stumble but so far have been unable to.
I am SOOO in agreement. I have been using BiaB for many years. For me, it simply froze or crashed way too often using VSTi's, even with jBridge. I only use 2018 BiaB with Coyote for midi, then open in RB to generate extra RT's, and then export them all to my DAW. But with 64-bit, I expect to actually be able to use my high quality VSTi's. And I decided to upgrade to Audiophile this year, so I'm excited about that.
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Hey Mike....
I'm running a 32 Bit XP pro OS. So I'm going to be using the 32 bit version.
The main difference is the speed and functionality that you get plus the ability to access more than 4 GB of memory and use the Quad cores to their fullest.
Everything is is dependent on that foundation.
At some point I know I will have to upgrade to a 64 bit OS. But until then.... If it ain't broke... don't try to fix it.
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But with 64-bit, I expect to actually be able to use my high quality VSTi's. Please get back to us on how this works for you. Inquiring minds want to know.
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I only use 2018 BiaB with Coyote for midi, then open in RB to generate extra RT's, and then export them all to my DAW.
But with 64-bit, I expect to actually be able to use my high quality VSTi's.
And I decided to upgrade to Audiophile this year, so I'm excited about that.
I got news for you.... it's already running in CD quality.... 24/44.1kbs. The quality of the VSTs's are professional quality. Maybe not Coyote or TTS.... but if you are running any of the NI stuff.... you could already have been there for years. Ditch the Coyote for the final mix.
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64 bit isn't a big deal to me, since I only use BIAB to generate dry tracks for tweaking in other software that is 64 bit (and that's where I'll be using plugins)
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I only use 2018 BiaB with Coyote for midi, then open in RB to generate extra RT's, and then export them all to my DAW. But with 64-bit, I expect to actually be able to use my high quality VSTi's. I got news for you.... it's already running in CD quality.... 24/44.1kbs. The quality of the VSTs's are professional quality. Maybe not Coyote or TTS.... but if you are running any of the NI stuff.... you could already have been there for years. Ditch the Coyote for the final mix. My Bad. I should have said, "export them all to my DAW ... where I can & have been using high quality VSTi's." The hope for 2019 is that I can also use them in BiaB.
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No point in risking a bigger foot print than I need , something I am still not certain about that, any one know if the running program footprint is more if running 64 bit. From the PCs point of view. Leaving less resources for running other programs at the same time say, Word or Adobe photo shop for editing screen shots etc. Well, this is probably the biggest reason to use 64 bit. For years everybody on every music forum anywhere said to not run uneeded programs when doing music work. But if you're going to do that anyway, 64 bit allows your system to use all of it's memory so one program that might be a memory hog doesn't mess up what you're trying to do with Biab. 32 bit only allows for 4 gigs of ram to be used regardless of you having way more than that on your system. 64 bit will access all of your memory. According to Peter in a post a few years ago his testing showed Jbridge allowed for full memory access as well in Biab but how that works if there are other memory intensive apps running at the same time as Biab wasn't mentioned. Probably because it's SOP in music production to not do that. Bob
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Hi Bob,
What does "SOP" mean? I understand the rest of your post, but "SOP" I don't understand.
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Hi Bob,
What does "SOP" mean? I understand the rest of your post, but "SOP" I don't understand.
Will Will, I think in this context it is an acronym for 'Standard Operating Procedures' Trev
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No question, that’s what he meant. In digital audio you always exit programs that you don’t need running.
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If I activate the 32 bit version does it automatically activate the 64 bit one too?
just asking before i upgrade!
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Your answer is yes.
I activated the 64bit version and then checked the 32bit version and it was activated also.
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I may have mentioned this in another post, but the ability to use BIAB in live playing situations where top-quality sounds are desired in the "Thru" MIDI channel was just not possible even with Jbridge. The stability of using Native Instruments and the like was not enough to last two tunes.
For those who play an instrument like a wind controller with BIAB as a "backing band" this is a game changer. Also, the BIAB feature to use Thru Harmonies in REAL TIME is a game changer. Using a "SuperSax" harmony with a really good horn section sounds pretty amazing.
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