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#507212 - 12/06/18 01:28 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: The Trumpet 3 with BIAB [Re: ddolman]
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David, thanx for that Chapman Trumpet info. I had not heard of that one before. It does sound great so it is on my wish list!
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#507440 - 12/07/18 11:50 AM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: The Trumpet 3 with BIAB [Re: MarioD]
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Originally Posted By: MarioD
David, thanx for that Chapman Trumpet info. I had not heard of that one before. It does sound great so it is on my wish list!

Yeah, I was really happy with the purchase. It's one of those instruments that really does sound as great as on the demos.

Currently my daughter plays the EWI from a little netbook, so I ported the Chapman Trumpet to a .sfz. For slow songs, the legato is great, but I need to put together a version that doesn't have the transitions so she can use it on faster stuff. In the Kontakt instrument, you can just put it into Polyphonic mode, and the transitions disappear.

Since I'm veering off topic, I'll also mention that I've been playing the Embertone Sensual Sax via the EWI as well. It's got (optional) "embellished" sampled legato, which can be a lot of fun to play. For $20, it's a steal, but it also requires the full version of Kontakt.

Not the same as SWAM, but it'll do for now. smile
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#507642 - 12/08/18 02:49 AM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: The Trumpet 3 with BIAB [Re: ddolman]
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I just bought a wind controller and BIAB UltraPak+. I am a keyboard player and use the controller with a sound module. How can I use it with BIAB?
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#508758 - 12/12/18 12:25 AM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: The Trumpet 3 with BIAB [Re: ddolman]
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I can answer part of the question, assuming you're running Windows.

First, you'll want to install the ASIO4All driver. This is a low-latency audio driver. Without it, audio will be routed through Window's default audio processing path, which will add a delay between you playing a note, and the note sounding:

Next, you'll want to set the controller up in BiaB, as well as setting ASIO as your driver, and change the default instrument that sound when you play the controller to be something better than the default MIDI instrument, because it doesn't respond to breath pressure:

  1. Plug in the breath controller so it's active
  2. Launch BiaB
  3. In the menu, choose Options | MIDI/Audio Driver Setup to open the dialog.
  4. In the MIDI Input Driver list, choose the controller (ex: USB-EWI) by double clicking it
  5. Click Use VSTi/DXi Synth
  6. Click Route MIDI Through MIDI Driver
  7. Click the button under Route MIDI Through MIDI Driver to bring up the VST/Synths/Plugins (synth in first slot) dialog.
  8. Notice that Default Synth is selected. This means you're setting the default synthesizer the BiaB plays when you play your controller.
  9. In the first dropdown of the Plugin list, choose the plugin player (Aria, Kontakt, or whatever you're using).
  10. If BiaB doesn't see your plugin, choose Add VSTi plugin from the list, and find your plugin. Where the plugin is located depends on the plugin you're using.
  11. Note that the second item in the dropdown says Forced MIDI Chan=1, which is good.
  12. Insert the instrument into the player
  13. Click the [X] in the dialog window to close it
  14. Click Audio Settings... button
  15. Under Audio Driver Type, choose ASIO to open the ASIO Audio Driver dialog box
  16. In the Select one ASIO Device, choose ASIO4ALL v2 by double-clicking
  17. Make sure Resampler Quality is set to Fast, or you'll still have a delay
  18. Click OK to close the ASIO Audio Driver dialog
  19. Click OK button to close the Audio Setting dialog

If this works, you should be able to play MIDI notes with your wind controller using BiaB, and hear the sound of your VSTi when you play it.

Now, here's the catch - the sound you set for your controller isn't the sound assigned to the MIDI track! That is, it's the sound you'll hear when you play the controller, but not necessarily the sound you get when you play back the recording of the track. For that, BiaB uses the instrument assigned to the track. To change the instrument assigned to the track, it's similar to setting the Default Synth sound:

  1. Click the Plugins tab of the Mixer
  2. On the melody instrument, click the first [None] to open the VST/Synths/Plugins (synth in first slot) dialog pops up
  3. In the first dropdown of the Plugin list, choose the plugin player (Aria, Kontakt, or whatever you're using).
  4. Insert the instrument into the player

I've never tried doing this before, so perhaps I've missed some simple way to hear the sound assigned to the track while you're recording. Hopefully someone else knows..?
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#508937 - 12/12/18 12:40 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: The Trumpet 3 with BIAB [Re: dcuny]
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That'll be good in The Tips n Tricks !
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Notation Enhancements in Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows!

There are Notation Enhancements in the NEW Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows! These include:
•A new button in the Print Options dialog which lets you quickly print a "chords only" fake sheet. You can also access this from the right-click menu on the chord sheet.
•A new track type (Drums) is now available for The Melody and Soloist tracks.
•Clicking close to a stave line will put a note on the stave line instead of between stave lines. (Previously, you had to click extremely close to a stave line to insert a note on The line.)
•Double-clicking on the Standard mode Notation window (or on the time line in Editable or Staff Roll mode) plays the song from the current time location. Previously, it played the song from the beginning of the current bar.
•Holding down the [Ctrl] key and pressing the zoom in/out buttons results in finest possible incremental adjustment in size.
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•Pressing The space bar plays the song from the current time location, not the current bar.
•The clefs split point can be set by the spin controls.
•The right-click menu in the Editable or Staff Roll mode Notation window has an option to change the current beat resolution. Previously, the only way to do this was to right-click on the time line.
•There's a keystroke entry notation mode - the 'N' mode, which lets you enter a melody entirely using keystrokes. The keystrokes are N to enter a note, up/down cursor to change its pitch, and left/right cursor to move the time line.
•You can now edit any track in the Event List Editor. When The dialog opens, it will show you the MIDI data in the current Notation track.
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We talk about these new features within our Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows®! New Features, RealTracks, and other content! video:
25:45 - New Features: Easy Entering of Notation with the 'N' Key
36:48 - Change Beat Resolution From the Right-Click Menu
37:15 - Easier Entry of Notes on Lines
37:42 - Asterisk to Indicate Middle C on & Spin Controls
37:53 - Force Accidental from the Right-Click Menu
38:01 - Edit Any Track in the Event List
38:09 - Keystroke Note Entry Mode 'N' for Faster Note Entry
38:28 - Print Chords Only Fake Sheet
38:32 - More Control of Notation Size

Rather read about it?
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The New Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows SongPicker!

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Learn more about the updates with our New Features Video - we've made it easy to find the section you'll need:
2:55 - New Feature: Redesigned SongPicker
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