I've posted about the using a JamMan a couple of times. In the past I've used players CD/MP3, but for the last three+ years I've been using my JamMan solo XT with an added SD card and FS3X foot switch. I have plenty of space and use WAV files. Plus the added advantage for me of the JamMan is that as a foot pedal, it is hands free. I can stop and start and scroll through songs using the FS3X. I just assign each song a loop number that's written on my set list. As a guitar player this works well for me, plus I think it's a better look to the audience...not a lot of button pushing between songs. The song quality is great through my Bose L1 Compact.
Joanne, words on the computer/tablet/phone karaoke style is something to be considered.
We have close to 600 songs now. I play the backing tracks but display the words in WordPad or the music in Encore depending on the song. Most of the songs are memorized, except for the newer ones and those we don't play often. However, even when a song is memorized, it's nice to have a 'cheat sheet' to refer to if you get one of those momentary distractions like an audience member coming up for a birthday request. The backing tracks wait for no one, and a glance at the cheat sheet helps you get back into it after you have been disturbed from the auto-pilot mode.
Karaoke tracks would serve the same purpose, perhaps even better.
There are a lot of good ideas in this thread, which prove there is more than one correct way to make music.
Never forget a lyric again. If I still played, I'd spend the $1100 and do it right without even a second thought. I don't like to hack, jury rig and "get by" on my tools. Why I have never owned a "Telecaster-like" guitar made by some guy named Fred in his basement shop.
My mentality will always be to remember that I don't get to keep a dime of my fortune after I die. I don't want to be the richest corpse in the graveyard. Just the best looking. (And that's a lock!!! ) But again, that's just me.
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I was kind of surprised by the number of additional products people in the group suggested as delivery tools for trax. Here are two more:
1) GEM pole speakers have a USB port that will take a thumb drive full of MP3s (or WAVS I suppose). You also get a hand-held play device. Since anybody playing live is probably going to need a PA anyway, this is one way to make trax delivery a built-in part of your system
2) another device capable of delivering backing tracks is Roland's GR-55 guitar synth. It has a USB port and built in pedal control for navigating and playing songs stored on the USB drive
I bought a BlueTooth reciever from Walmart for $9. I found it hanging on the wall near where they sell HDMI cables and SD cards. There are plenty of others on Amazon. It has a 3.5 mm jack and stub that plugs into the 3.5 mm input on the Yamaha Stagepas 600I/400I. It charges off of my home computer and stays chrged for a very, very long time. I don't know how long because I don't keep track but I have used it for many times forgetting to charge it for several weeks in a row. I use a $65 Android phone over BlueTooth for my break music.(I haven't been using backing tracks for a while now). That's a spare phone that does not have a phone number. I suppose any BlueTooth playback device would work with it and a cable adapter to connect to any mixer/PA.
this seems an astonishingly dumb question but I really can't find much on the net. I'd like to up my chops by working with backing tracks in genres I don't play (which is most of them). On Google and YouTube, anything to do with backing tracks is either to buy them, make them, opinions of live use or recording. All I want to do is explore ideas over a steady beat and tunes. No one that I've found has said whether it's preferable to use amps and speakers for each side, combine them, use headphones, etc. And absolutely no one has mentioned how to stop, back-up, repeat or pause playback. Foot pedals would make a lot of sense for that. I have lots of gear which probably includes whatever I need -- or most of it. I just don't want to have a guitar in two hands, keyboard, mouse and computer screens in front and have to keep fiddling with incoming content. I'll be playing softly with no neighbors but have good cans if needed. Thanks for reading and I'd like to hear how you deal with this. Thanks,
Sounds like you are looking for an option for using BiaB backing tracks, at home, for practicing or exploring ideas without fiddling with a PC of incoming content while playing. Strictly at home, private, non-performance stuff.
Basically, use iTunes. Works for me.
- set up the tracks as songs in Biab and render to a WAV file - import the WAV files to iTunes - set up a Playlist and copy what you want to use today into that Playlist - arrange the Playlist tunes in the order you want playback - play the iTunes playlist thru you PC's speakers (you'll want decent PC speakers of course) at whatever volume you want - iTunes has controls for start, stop, back up and pause but I don't know how they could be used without using a mouse on the iTunes screen.
Basically, the only time you have to leave the guitar is to start the playlist. Your amp only handles your guitar, not the BiaB file so you are free to add whatever guitar effects you want to use at the guitar amp.
Some tips to make things easier: - Have a specific folder to hold the new WAV files; you can import all of them at once - Set up the BiaB track as a full song... intro, number of choruses and ending - When you render the BiaB file to WAV, include a few seconds delay at the start and end so the tune doesn't start immediately. (Delay is on the Render panel not in the SGU file) - When you name the output WAV file, include the key in the name (so if its "I Can't Get Started" and its in the key of C, then "I Can't Get Started_C") That way you don't have to recall what key its in, just look at the PC screen. - Use the iTunes "comments" to note whatever info you feel is important to remember when using the tune and display the comments in the Playlist.
You probably already have iTunes, and I'll assume you know how to manipulate the iTunes files and settings. I'm also assuming you know how to set up BiaB songs and render to a WAV file.
If you want more info or have some specific question, just ask.
OK, so you've been using BIAB to create backing tracks for solo gigs. The question of how to deliver the trax arises occasionally. Here are a few old ways, plus a new one I just discovered (at the end)
2) some people use a tablet, MP3 player or phone to deliver MP3s
Disadvantages: ... no hands free operation that I'm aware of ... depending on app used, probably can't use MIDI to control gear
Nope. $10 IOS/Android Gig worthy backing track app allows use of bluetooth keyboard/pedal to send midi instructions to.
I use next/prev song, next/prev loop section, start/stop play, Loop on/off. You can even hook in an expression pedal if you like for volume control. For me its not necessary.
So both things are easily doable.
Gigging with tracks is a lot more than just playing back tracks. Library management (hundreds of tunes) Creating Setlists - be prepared (10-20 songs per set) Navigating songs as they play. Id sections (intro, head, outtro, Solos) Looping sections of a song (eg more choruses for improv) Slow down, speed up (if you like). Change Key (if a singer shows up). Eq sound for a particular song (sometimes one is just too boomy)
Mp3 files and a solid IOS app is my choice. I use a tablet and have a mirror copy on my phone. It just works. Easy, reliable.
Still looking for a better/easier/faster approach. Haven't found one on this forum... yet.
I don't gig full time. I do 50-100 gigs per year. I value great sound, simplicity and reliability. I can't see ever toting a computer or a dedicated track player or looper to a gig. Complications, points of failure.
My setup is 2 trips packin/out. Nothing weighs more than 32lbs. I arrive at a gig and can start to play within 10 minutes, if necessary.
Everyone is different and deserves their own approach. What works for me may not work for others. I know there will come a better mousetrap than what I am using. But it will be in the future not the past.
I basically use an app called Jamzone. I have an iPad holder on my Mike stand. It Bluetooth connects to my PA system plug in the Mike and guitar. It has set list capability’s. The tracks are multitracked with a scratch vocal to practice with. Turn off the vocal and acoustic guitar and boom in business
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<...snip...> Gigging with tracks is a lot more than just playing back tracks. Library management (hundreds of tunes) Creating Setlists - be prepared (10-20 songs per set) Navigating songs as they play. Id sections (intro, head, outtro, Solos) Looping sections of a song (eg more choruses for improv) Slow down, speed up (if you like). Change Key (if a singer shows up). Eq sound for a particular song (sometimes one is just too boomy)
Mp3 files and a solid IOS app is my choice. I use a tablet and have a mirror copy on my phone. It just works. Easy, reliable.<...>
My setup is similar but with some differences.
I don't do setlists. I read the audience while I'm gigging, and decided what song to play next. Sometimes at the very end of the song I'm currently playing.
For example: If it's a fast song, and they look like they need another, I'll cue up something the same speed or quicker--but as the song goes on, and they start to look tired, I'll change my mind and cue up a slow song or something else.
For that reason, a tablet won't do. I require a keyboard.
I have two computers up and running, I only need one, but the second one is up and ready to take over if there is a problem. I use ThinkPads, and in the last 20-some years, I had to move the USB->Audio interface to the other computer twice. The audience didn't know there was a problem.
I just retired a 2002 ThinkPad, they are ultra-reliable.
1) I use Windows File Explorer, put the songs in alphabetical order, so I only need to type the first few letters to highlight the next song.
2) I hit ENTER and the song starts playing in Windows Media Player
3) Then I hit ALT+TAB to focus the computer back to File Explorer.
4) Type a few letters of the next one, and hit ENTER when the song I'm playing is done (repeat 3 and 4)
This allows me to decide what to play next and to start the next song immediately after the previous one.
I've never been clairvoyant enought to figure out in advance what people want and when they are going to want it. So calling songs on the fly is my way to give the audience the best experience that I can.
Some of my songs I have more than one mp3. One might be a bit faster or longer or have some other difference so that I can choose via the situation.
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