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I’m sure that us 5 are just the tip of the iceberg as most folks haven’t posted. Their just waiting to see. The fact that it is the exact same problem for each of us tells me that it is not user error but a reproducible bug. Now it might be a setup or configuration issue common to our computers. Only time will tell.
I would love to hear from folks that the plugin is working flawlessly for, and doing everything that it’s supposed to do.
Lenovo Win 10 16 gig ram, Mac mini with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2022, Realband, Harrison Mixbus 32c version 9.1324, Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app, Komplete 49 key controller.
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Robh, what version of Reaper are you running - don't think anyone has mentioned?
Are you disabling your antivirus or white listing the BIAB executable?
It may just be something simple in your configurations.
PGM needs to provide a diagnostic file which records errors which we can send to them to troubleshoot!
Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper
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Me Too .
Sample tank no sound at all now .
win 10 64 bit 16gb,i7 chip, ssd 500gb, m-audio air, ,Roland BK-7M, 1000,shure sm7b,sonar,acid,mixcraft, variety of plugins.Sample tank 3,Kontakt. TC Helicon Voicelive 3 2 . https://beatmaster1.bandcamp.com/releases
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Great questions MS. I am using the latest Reaper, however I don’t really use reaper much just for testing to see if it is the same one two DAWs. I don’t know what “white listing” means. The only Antivirus I use is windows defender since I use my iPad to search the internet 95% of the time and only hit the internet on laptop to install or download stuff for music
Lenovo Win 10 16 gig ram, Mac mini with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2022, Realband, Harrison Mixbus 32c version 9.1324, Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app, Komplete 49 key controller.
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Me too was for the bb-vsti !
win 10 64 bit 16gb,i7 chip, ssd 500gb, m-audio air, ,Roland BK-7M, 1000,shure sm7b,sonar,acid,mixcraft, variety of plugins.Sample tank 3,Kontakt. TC Helicon Voicelive 3 2 . https://beatmaster1.bandcamp.com/releases
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I just made a small 24 bar song and had different instruments muted on certain bars and included shots on some bars and saved the file in BIAB. When I opened the song in the VST and generated and the muted parts played and the shots did not work at all. I guess none of that has been incorporated as of yet.
Brian
BIAB 2024 Ultrapack- Studio One Pro 6.5 Windows 10
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When I opened the song in the VST and generated and the muted parts played and the shots did not work at all. I guess none of that has been incorporated as of yet.
Brian Muted parts have never been saved in the BIAB file. And PGM has not as yet commented on weather or not shots and holds will be included in the BB-VSTi.
Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper
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When I opened the song in the VST and generated and the muted parts played and the shots did not work at all. I guess none of that has been incorporated as of yet.
Brian Muted parts have never been saved in the BIAB file. And PGM has not as yet commented on weather or not shots and holds will be included in the BB-VSTi. Ok perhaps in the future. By the way which version of BIAB are you using? Mine saves mutes I just saved a song and loaded it back up and it was just like I saved it with the Mutes.
Last edited by Brian Hughes; 12/25/18 06:46 AM.
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My BiaB saves with mutes too.
So I did a detailed testing this morning of the VSTi plug. If I keep the number of bars at 12, and the multiriff bars at 4 to 6 max I get a render of around 1:30 I can add a second drum track below the melody and solo tracks, but it changes the name of the track to one of the tracks above but does generate a drum track.
If I go above around 18 bars or more than 6 bars of multiriff I get a slow down and a Range check error and I lose the yellow note banner.
I hope this has the techs to locate the problem.
Lenovo Win 10 16 gig ram, Mac mini with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2022, Realband, Harrison Mixbus 32c version 9.1324, Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app, Komplete 49 key controller.
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By the way which version of BIAB are you using? Mine saves mutes I just saved a song and loaded it back up and it was just like I saved it with the Mutes. Say what? I am still on 2018, but I just read somewhere in forum that this old issue continued. Heck, it is hard to keep up all the things going on. Thanks for the info. Maybe time for me to get off the fence.
Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper
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Greetings, new here  Just got BB to run the vst in Studio One 4. The first version of the plugin seemed to work work OK, but the two upgrades have both been buggy. I can still load a .sgu file into the vst (no option to load .mgx?), and generate the parts. It takes about a minute per track to generate (16 bars). But the only way I can then get the generated .waw into the DAW is to manually drag them from the location they were saved on the disk (c:\bb\BBPlugin\SavedTracks\) The drag-and-drop as demonstrated in PG's demos don't work. Entering cords manually in the vst, then generating does not work. The computer will freeze up for several minutes. Still, this plugin could be a lot of fun, so I am crossing my fingers for a fix!
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By the way which version of BIAB are you using? Mine saves mutes I just saved a song and loaded it back up and it was just like I saved it with the Mutes. Say what? I am still on 2018, but I just read somewhere in forum that this old issue continued. Heck, it is hard to keep up all the things going on. Thanks for the info. Maybe time for me to get off the fence. See if you can follow this convoluted message. below is a tread going on right now with two of the top forum gurus who also acknowledge that BIAB does not save muted tracks. How can everyone be so confused on this? https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=511728#Post511728
Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper
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By the way which version of BIAB are you using? Mine saves mutes I just saved a song and loaded it back up and it was just like I saved it with the Mutes. Say what? I am still on 2018, but I just read somewhere in forum that this old issue continued. Heck, it is hard to keep up all the things going on. Thanks for the info. Maybe time for me to get off the fence. See if you can follow this convoluted message. below is a tread going on right now with two of the top forum gurus who also acknowledge that BIAB does not save muted tracks. How can everyone be so confused on this? https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=511728#Post511728 I now see what the confusion is. I am adding mutes at the bar level not the mixer level. This would explain what is going on. It does save mutes at the bar level just not the mixer setting. Brian
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Am I misunderstanding this? I have many BIAB songs where I have muted the melody in the mixer so I can play the melody myself. If I save the song with the melody muted, when I open the song again, the melody is still muted.
I'm I misunderstanding the issue here or do I have a freak, albeit very welcome, "feature"?
Maybe this is because I'm using BIAB 2018 and not the new version or the VSTI plugin.
Jeff
Last edited by MountainSide; 12/27/18 03:38 AM.
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Will the Plugin ever have Mute, Solo and Volume on each track / Master?
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Will the Plugin ever have Mute, Solo and Volume on each track / Master? FWIW, I just installed BIAB 2019 last night and stated playing with the VST3 plug in today. For giggles I ran 3 instances of the plug in with different styles and 5 real instruments each. Ran just fine. Sound was terrible with different styles, but I just wanted to see if it would work. Each track in Studio One 4 has it's own Mute, Solo, and Fader for all 15 rendered audio tracks and the shot, rests and holds work fine. Need to putts some more but "having fun" Walt
Yamaha Montage 6 Roland J80, D50, Integra 7, BK-7m, FR-8X, 1967 Fender Jaguar, Fender Strat, Fender 1965 Twin Reverb reissue, Selmer Trumpet, Akai EWI, Studio One 4 My WEB Site: www.gontowski.com/music
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BiaB doesn't save the mute status of tracks - it has been that way for the last 30 years.
One day you may practise all your songs with the melody muted, and the next day you might want them with the melody playing.
If you want to silence a part for a song, you can disable it (track settings - disable), or turn its volume to zero.
Have Fun!
Peter Gannon
PG Music Inc.
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>Need to putts some more but "having fun"
Thanks for the report WallyG.
Have Fun!
Peter Gannon
PG Music Inc.
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>And PGM has not as yet commented on weather or not shots and holds will be included in the BB-VSTi.
Currently the only thing not implemented is the plugin loading shots from previously saved BB songs. That will be implemented.
Already implemented is everything else about rests, shots, holds,
- you can type them in and it saves with your DAW project
- if you save as a BB file the shots are saved in it
- the shots etc. generate with the arrangements
Have Fun!
Peter Gannon
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Just wanted to say a big thank you to the hard working gang at PG Music. Currently, 611 is working using the latest 64bit Reaper and the VST3. Rendered the main style and did a 16 bar multi riff. All worked great! Cheers....job well done......forgot to mention...rendering speed is much, much faster! 
Marcus2323
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