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I saw this tip described in Maximum PC. While the magazine is dedicated to gamers, pro audio users share some of the same problems with Windows.

This tip will force Windows to initialize all drivers when it starts up.

Start button
Settings icon (the gear)
System
Power and Sleep
on the right, click on Additional Power Settings
on the left, Choose What the Power Buttons Do
Change settings that are currently unavailable
DESELECT Turn on Fast Startup (Recommended)

EDIT: read the posts below for WHY this might be helpful to you.




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This was a tip I got from Focusrite Tech Support back in the days of Windows 8.0

It has been an ongoing problem with older Focusrite interfaces such as the 2i2 and 2i4 starting with Windows 8.0 on up to today.

If you put your PC to sleep or in hibernation with Fast Startup on, many times the audio will be highly distorted when it comes back on. This simple trick fixed my problem years ago and I also highly recommend it.


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This is interesting Matt. I'm always looking to tweak a bit more performance from my system. In the past, I have left this at the default: "Turn on fast startup". What advantages does having Win 10 initialize all drivers provide?

Appreciate your experienced insight.

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I'll have to give this a try. My Behringer interface does not have an on/off switch. You have to unplug and replug the USB cable to turn it off, then back on.

I have found that if I reboot my computer, the Behringer is unresponsive until I unplug/replug the USB cable (after the computer has finished booting). I'll have to try this tip to see if the unit re-initializes on a reboot. I'll report back later this evening after work.


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John, try it. I remembered this while thinking about the annoyances James Francisco has been having with his Steinberg interface. However, I think a reboot forces loading drivers and I don't think this will solve your particular problem.

Jeff, jcland gave you the best reason to do this in the post just above yours. When Windows hibernates, this restarts the drivers.

I can't think of a downside to doing this for computers using digital audio. The additional time to load drivers will hardly matter.


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Amazing tip, Matt. I have often experienced that my Focusrite wouldn't restart correctly after Windows had a little nap. This will probably solve it (at least it seems logical) - I didn't know about this before.

Thank you!
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Have you tired setting the Behringer service(s) to "Automatic (delayed start)" in local services?

PS if you have no idea what or how to set services then leave alone

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Hi, Larry -

I have not tried that yet (but do know how to do it). I didn't get a chance to check the other setting last night; hopefully tonight.


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<<< PS if you have no idea what or how to set services then leave alone <<<



Larry, here in the south, saying "don't try this" or "leave it alone" is just another way of saying "I Dare You" wink


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Thanx for the info Matt. That is one thing that I didn't know about. I just reset it on my music computer.


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Originally Posted By: Charlie Fogle
<<< PS if you have no idea what or how to set services then leave alone <<<



Larry, here in the south, saying "don't try this" or "leave it alone" is just another way of saying "I Dare You" wink


Up here it "don't try this" or "leave it alone" means "Oh yea, here hold my beer"!


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Why do you let your computers go to sleep? There is no advantage to it.


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Originally Posted By: Will Josef
Amazing tip, Matt. I have often experienced that my Focusrite wouldn't restart correctly after Windows had a little nap. This will probably solve it (at least it seems logical) - I didn't know about this before.

Thank you!
Will


Here is the original reply back from Focusrite on my problem. This was back in 2015.

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"Hello Joseph,

Thank you for your email.

I'm sorry to hear you are having trouble with your Scarlett 2i4, but happy to help!

This issue has to do with "Fast Boot" in newer versions of Windows. Fast Boot means that when the computer shuts down it doesn't actually do a full and complete shut down, but a Hibernate state, similar to a deeper Sleep Mode. This keeps certain drivers turned on in the hibernate state, like our sound drivers, and then may not reload them properly. Unplugging the unit will cause the driver to unload and reload fresh. Turning off Fast Boot should fix this issue.

Please let me know how you come along. If this doesn't solve your issues, please let us know so that we can help you further.

Best regards.

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Focusrite Technical Support"

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I have been unplugging my Focusrite for years!
Thanks for the suggestion

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Originally Posted By: eddie1261
Why do you let your computers go to sleep? There is no advantage to it.

Faster restart time?


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Right, faster restart time. But I have never used hibernation on a PC that does digital audio projects. However, I realized reading about problems that others may not avoid hibernation as I do, and the tip could help.


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Why do you let your computers go to sleep? There is no advantage to it.

Faster restart time?


If you just let them run 24/7 there is zero restart time.


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Originally Posted By: eddie1261
Why do you let your computers go to sleep? There is no advantage to it.


Yes there is.

Sleep was originally developed to extend battery life on laptops. You take a brief break and close the lid on your laptop and any windows open as well as their current state are saved in your PC's RAM. Now, when you open your laptop's lid, it's as if you never left. The time it takes to bring everything back to life takes only a second or two.

If your battery nears the point of death while in sleep mode, your PC will automatically save your place onto the hard drive and will resume whenever it is plugged back into power. On a desktop, where you don't have a battery option, something called hybrid sleep takes care of the threat of losing your work when in sleep mode.

So on a desktop, the main argument in favor of using sleep is to avoid losing your work.

On a laptop it’s to avoid losing your work and to avoid using up your battery during periods of inactivity.


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If you just let them run 24/7 there is zero restart time.
Yes, that would work. I actually develop software that runs 24/7 in 'lights-out' server rooms. The applications never get shutdown.

However, I don't do that with my music systems. I can't see the point, considering energy use, disk drive operation etc, but YMMV. smile


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Letting a Windows computer run 24/7 isn’t a good idea either. Not only does it use energy needlessly as Videotrack just mentioned, but Windows has a tendency to run out of what it calls resources. If you only ran one program on that computer, then that’s fine, but normal users multitask. All is takes is one program with a memory leak and you’re running on a time bomb. I can cite one program that you all know that used to do that.


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On a desktop, where you don't have a battery option, something called hybrid sleep takes care of the threat of losing your work when in sleep mode.


I never go INTO sleep mode. Thus that variable is removed from the equation.

But whatever, dude. As usual, you know everything about everything. Even more than what I was taught when I became a Microsoft Certified System Engineer.

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And another one...... Close your programs, turn off the monitor, and walk away. Nothing is running.

Memory leak? It's 2019, now Windows 95.

Just so I know you know, and I DO know, explain to me what YOU think a memory leak is. I don't think you do, and you have it on your list of buzz words with defrag and update drivers.

As far as energy, seriously? You don't have enough money that you worry about an extra 878 cents of electricity over a month that you'd rather be starting your computer every day? (Which, FYI takes more power than letting it run?) Your computer has fans to prevent overheating, and those little fans are all that draws power when you are not actively using your computer and drawing on the CPU to process data. I won't even get into the idiocy of screen savers now that we have LCD and LED monitors. Just turn the monitor power off and walk away. I have been leaving my computers on since I had computers. Never seen a drastic spike in my electric bill, and never had a heat issue. Certainly not a "memory leak" issue.


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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Letting a Windows computer run 24/7 isn’t a good idea either. Not only does it use energy needlessly as Videotrack just mentioned, but Windows has a tendency to run out of what it calls resources. If you only ran one program on that computer, then that’s fine, but normal users multitask. All is takes is one program with a memory leak and you’re running on a time bomb. I can cite one program that you all know that used to do that.


I think letting anything run all the time that consumes electricity is not a good idea because of the fire risk involved. Heck I even switch off the tv amplifier now in loft that is wired into plug in bedroom, doesn't use much electricity but my motto is Electricity=fire risk.

And the above is bourne from experience of having an electric shower catch fire in house, even when it was wired with the protection of an RCD unit.

The only thing in the house now that works at night time is the alarm clock radio and fridge freezer.

Awww another thing that gets me is when young people leave their laptop running on top of their bed, and walk away and leave it.

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The only thing in the house now that works at night time is the alarm clock radio and fridge freezer.

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Actually anything that you can start with a remote control is on 24/7/365. Other wise you would have to get up and turn it on prior to using the remote.


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The only thing in the house now that works at night time is the alarm clock radio and fridge freezer.

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Actually anything that you can start with a remote control is on 24/7/365. Other wise you would have to get up and turn it on prior to using the remote.


Yep you are right Mario, but its not a big deal to switch things on at electric wall socket and not leaving appliances like tv's on standby.


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But whatever, dude. As usual, you know everything about everything. Even more than what I was taught when I became a Microsoft Certified System Engineer.

And another one goes on ignore.



My post was largely a copy and paste from PC magazine so I'm sorry they know more than you were taught as a Microsoft Certified Engineer. That is probably because Windows 10 wasn't out back then. If you do a little Googling instead of getting your nose out of joint you will see I'm right.


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No issues here not using sleep and leaving my main PC run 24/7 for many years now. I only have the screens turn off after 10 minutes. Everything else stays running and NEVER an issue on that. No issues with memory leaks when your apps are off. I simply leave the machine on all the time so that it's available when I want it. smile I just have a scheduled task on the PC that kicks in every night to turn off the network connection and it turns back on in the morning. I keep the network on during the day so that I can use my laptop or phone to remote in to it when needed.

P.S. - The power savings argument doesn't work either. My UPS tracks power usage and the PC uses little power when the system is idle.




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