I have an old version, Pro 2007 for Windows. I installed it with no issues on my Windows 10 laptop. After installation, I could play a song and hear both audio and MIDI tracks. Now, I only hear the MIDI track (melody), I do not hear the audio tracks (drums, bass). I tried troubleshooting but got nowhere.
Then I tried installing the program on my 2nd laptop and the same thing happened,I can only hear the MIDI melody but now drums or bass.
I can only imagine that others have had the same problem so I'm hoping someone here can provide a fix. Thanks
I would suggest looking at your audio settings (go to Control Panel and select Sound). Set your sound card to 16-bit, 44.1Khz rate (both playback and recording) and see if that helps. You may also look at updating your sound card driver. What are your BIAB sound settings (maybe post a screen shot)? Are you set for MME or ASIO? Give us some more information and maybe we can help (although version 2007 is now quite old and predates Windows 10 as an operating system (and actually even predates Windows 7 by two years, so it did not even have a 64-bit OS in mind when it came out).
John
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I know I am running MME. I think my sound card is setup in Control Panel for 24 bit but I will double check when I get home from work.
I can tell you that the program suggested 120ms for the latency setting which I agreed to. It also suggested rendering in stereo rather than mono which I also agreed to.
The weird thing is that it worked right after the installation was completed. After the first song played, I started exploring the program, being careful not to change anything (look but don't touch), and then the same song did not play correctly. Makes me wonder what changed, why, and how.
You mention BIAB playing both MIDI and Audio. I'm not quite sure what you mean by this because version 2007 of BIAB was entirely MIDI-based. That is, all tracks, Bass, Drums, Piano, Guitar, Strings, Melody and Soloist were all MIDI and each one was transmitted on its own MIDI channel. Unlike today's BIAB, none of the tracks were audio-based.
When you get a chance, can you open "Options | Preferences | MIDI Driver" and then take a screen shot and post it in this thread so that we can see what your settings are. This will help us all get a better insight.
If memory serves, BIAB 2007 only had RealDrums as audio. This was a year before RealTracks were introduced. If you don't know what I mean by that, all sounds in BIAB were MIDI until 2007 when audio drums were introduced. The next year, some of the other instruments became available as audio. [Now, one of the greatest features of BIAB 2019 is that over 2000 tracks are audio.]
Yes, you will need to ensure you are running at 16-bit, not 24.
Could you tell us more about what Options, Preferences, MIDI Drivers. Output says?
EDIT my post and Noel's are asking the same thing at the same time.
Last edited by Matt Finley; 01/09/1908:38 AM.
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Thanks for the reply Noel. And thanks for the clarification that all tracks in 2007 were MIDI. I guess I have a MIDI issue then. I can tell you that I could hear only the melody (and see the keys on the virtual keyboard being played) while other keys for other instruments were being played but I heard no sound from them. It also looked like there was more data activity watching the MIDI monitor than the sound I heard. I will post screenshots later today.
As I mentioned in my earlier post, please post an image showing your setup in "Options | Preferences | MIDI Driver". This will help greatly with trying to solve your problem.
I tried switching to 16bit (see screenshot), restarted my laptop, no change. I can only hear the notes played as shown by the red squares on the piano keyboard (see screenshot).
Let me know if you need anything else.
PS I am considering doing a complete uninstall and then a re-install but not sure if that will really solve the problem.
You were correct to change the Windows audio default setting to 16-bit, 44.1K Hz. Do you hear the three tones on each channel when you click on the Test button?
I'm not too familiar with sound cards in laptops anymore, so can you tell us what brand this is? I would have expected a RealTek device here.
Regardless of anything else that happens in this thread, I strongly encourage you to purchase an external USB audio interface. Even an inexpensive Focusrite Scarlett 212 or 214 would be far better than the internal sound device you have, and give you more flexibility.
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Matt (Finley) - it shows as a Connexant SmartAudio HD onboard audio device (from one of the earlier screen shots.
Matt (Blues) - Also, be sure to check your volume settings. And definitely let us know if you hear the tones when click on the "Test" button. As displayed, using MME and the GS Wavetable at 16 bit, 44.1Khz it should work.
John
Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA
If I have time, I'll install BIAB 2007 on my Win10 computer and see what happens (using the same demo file). It's a desktop, but it has a RealTek onboard sound card, so while not the same, it will be similar. I'll let you know what I find later this evening.
John
Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA
See the screenshots that show the volume level at full (100%). And yes, when I press the audio test button, I do hear 3 charming tones. I am still only hearing the keys with the red squares (starts at bar 13a).
I'm really starting to run out of ideas. The answer is probably something silly that this newbie is doing wrong but I can't imagine what that might be at the moment. Especially since it worked once and then stopped working (forever).
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