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#516589 - 01/09/19 04:40 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: MIDI yes, audio no [Re: Noel96]
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I will try that tommorrow, thanks.

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#516595 - 01/09/19 05:00 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: MIDI yes, audio no [Re: BluesMatt]
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MattB,

Here are a couple of Youtube links that will be helpful for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjEgXmM5hd4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awCZg281RX8

While present versions of BIAB have a mixer-based display for track volume adjustment, in 2007, the program did not. To adjust individual track volume (or pan or reverb)...

1. select the track that the instrument is on (i.e. the horizontal menu that says: Bass, Piano, Drums, Strings, Guitar, Melody, Soloist)

2. immediately below the instrumental track names given above, is a horizontal row of effects (Volume, Pan, Reverb, etc) -- change these values to change these effects for the selected track

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Noel

P.S. You might find it interesting to compare how far BIAB has come since 2007. The below link is to tutorials prepared by PG Music that explain the more recent versions of the Windows version of the program.

https://www.pgmusic.com/videos.bbwin.htm
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#516598 - 01/09/19 05:12 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: MIDI yes, audio no [Re: BluesMatt]
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Hi BluesMatt,

I do not remember having any problems with BiaB 2007.

Here are a couple of things to try:
1-in the piano roll view (PRV) click on track that is not sounding. You do this by clicking on the B, G, D, P, etc little squares. B = bass track, G = Guitar, etc. Look at the velocity. If they are all at zero raise them to a 64 or higher.
2- if the velocity lines are not at zero then add a volume. That would be CC7 at around 100.

There is a mixer but I forget exactly where it is in 2007.

Here are some pictures that may help. Note that my screen will be different from yours as I am using BiaB 2019. If this is above your current knowledge level then send me a Private Message (PM) and I will give you my email address so that you can send me the file and I will look at it.


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#516614 - 01/09/19 06:02 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: MIDI yes, audio no [Re: BluesMatt]
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BIAB certainly had a mixer where you should check volumes of the tracks you don’t hear. I’m afraid I don’t remember that old version well but the mixer can be found in the menu system.

You should not have to fool with any MIDI channel assignments unless you are trying to play a song you downloaded from the Internet. If that is the case, write back for instructions.
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#516624 - 01/09/19 07:15 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: MIDI yes, audio no [Re: BluesMatt]
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Don't know what to say. I just installed BIAB 2007 plus the 5 RealDrums sets that initially came with it (5 more came with 2007.5). Everything played perfectly on my Windows 10 , RealTek onboard audio system.
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#516666 - 01/10/19 03:49 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: MIDI yes, audio no [Re: Noel96]
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Good morning Noel.

So I clicked the "return to factory settings" in the Opt menu, I choose all. When the program asked me if I wanted Stereo, this time I said NO.

I clicked play and I heard ALL of the instruments. So choosing stereo was the issue. Not sure why. I tried the same steps on my 2nd laptop and I can now hear all of the instruments there as well.

Because I am now able to hear all of the tracks, I will be upgrading to 2019.

Thanks again for all of the help....matt

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#516685 - 01/10/19 05:35 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: MIDI yes, audio no [Re: BluesMatt]
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Wow. Ok.

So I guess we can conclude this step is necessary for those laptops with Connexant SmartAudio HD (which I had never heard of before).
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#516689 - 01/10/19 06:11 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: MIDI yes, audio no [Re: Matt Finley]
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Maybe. I will check laptop #2 to see what it has when I get home from work.

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#516738 - 01/10/19 11:12 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: MIDI yes, audio no [Re: jford]
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We're you running in stereo or mono John.

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#516748 - 01/10/19 12:02 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: MIDI yes, audio no [Re: BluesMatt]
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I'm pretty sure I was running stereo, but I'll take another look this evening (I haven't blown it away yet).
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#516832 - 01/10/19 04:58 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: MIDI yes, audio no [Re: BluesMatt]
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So laptop #2 (Dell with Realtec audio) works set for 24 bit audio and in mono (it doesn't work in stereo). (see the screenshot)

So my conclusion is that using built-in audio chipsets (like on a laptop) can get tricky. I'm still not sure why using stereo is a constraint but I'm ok saving that problem for another day.

For right now, I will be upgrading to 2019 (most likely over the weekend). I'm guessing I should also buy the largest Megapak I can afford, correct?

With the upgrade, I am anxious to play with the Realtracks and Real drums. It remains to be seen if I will have laptop issues.

Thanks again for all of the help.....matt


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#517013 - 01/11/19 12:10 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: MIDI yes, audio no [Re: BluesMatt]
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Your screen shot shows 48000 hertz. I would change that to 44100. That's what BIAB uses.
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#517015 - 01/11/19 12:15 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: MIDI yes, audio no [Re: BluesMatt]
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John, I recall he tried that; there's another screen pic on page one of the thread where he tried 44.1, 16-bit. I don't know why he went back...
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#517025 - 01/11/19 01:27 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: MIDI yes, audio no [Re: BluesMatt]
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And by the way, my system was set for stereo. I could play both MIDI and RealDrums (since BIAB 2007 only had RealDrums, not RealTracks).



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#517062 - 01/11/19 05:17 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: MIDI yes, audio no [Re: Matt Finley]
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This is a different laptop Matt F.

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#517064 - 01/11/19 05:19 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: MIDI yes, audio no [Re: jford]
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Thanks John.

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