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I have been using Cakewalk for several years. The last upgrade was to Sonar Platinum. I use it a lot now. I also bought Studio One Pro 4 which I am learning to use. It is a lot like Cakewalk so not to big a learning curve.
I understand Bandlab has bought Cakewalk and I can download it for free.
Why should I do that? What, if any is the advantage?
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Billy
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Because it is free, no strings attached. You are familiar with it. It gets updated regularly! Forum has same great, helpful members. Development team is lead by Noel Borthwick, who is very talented guy, if you ask me.
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It keeps Cakewalk up to date. I find it works well and can use all the plugins I had in Platinum. I also use Reaper which I purchased during the Cakewalk uncertainty period. Keeping both Reaper and Sonar gives me more options for handling different tasks. When it comes to MIDI I find CakeWalk the better tool (the little scripts when pressing <cntrl F1> and the Events button makes MIDI very easy to edit). I find Reaper much easier for handling audio, slicing and merging audio and even various automation to me seems easier (less clicks and the like). I also prefer to mix in Reaper, whilst the Pro Channel tools are good I prefer the chains I have set up in Reaper. Oddly enough when I first started on Reaper I spent some time trying to get it to behave like Sonar, then realised it behaves better.
Having both is good IMHO
Tony
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Thanks guys,
I would like to keep using Cakewalk. I will download the new version on another drive if that is possible. I guess I am always a little suspect of anything that is free. Why would you buy a major DAW and then give it away for free?
I went to Studio One when Cakewalk closed. I like it for the most part but there are things such as the way you split out drums on separate tracks I like better in Cakewalk. Most of the Cakewalk VST's will not work in any other DAW.
I also have Reaper, Pro Tools,RB, And Ohm Studio. No matter which one I start out on I always wind up using at least one other before finishing a song. I don't like Pro Tools very much and find it the most difficult DAW to use. It may be great for a engineer but I don't find it is as useful for a creative situation. Pro Tools is the best program I have used to record multi track live drums.
The longer I use DAW's in general the more I find the need to buy better VST's than the ones that come with the DAW. The problem is many are pretty expensive. For bass Trilian by Spectrasonic is very good but cost around $300 and Keyscape has great sounds but cost $400. It is easy to have a couple of thousand dollars tied up in VSTs.
It is pretty common to burn a $1000 in fuel in a weekend in my boat...so perhaps the music stuff is not really so expensive in comparison.
Truth is, I find everything is becoming less and less affordable for me in retirement.
Cheers,
Billy
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Hi Billy
Just a thought you might be better of loading cakewalk by bandlab on the same drive. This way it will pick up all the the plugins from your Sona installation as some of the third party stuff did not come when the rights where transferred to Band lab.
They can happily co exist on the same pc I have Sona and Cakewalk.
By the way, Cakewalk by bandlab only comes as 64 bit
Have fun
Mike
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Thanks Mike,
I assume I can point Cakewalk to a VST residing anywhere by providing the path.
I have an issue with this computer as I have run out of space on the C drive. I just have a 250 gig SSD for a C drive and 2 TB SADA drives.
I have had this computer for about five years and it is getting time to upgrade to a new machine. Problem is I am not sure just what I want. Just to replace the C drive for a bigger SSD is a ton of work!!
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Billy
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Billy, RustySpoon# and Teunis gave goods reasons for upgrading to Cakewalk by BandLab. The owner of BandLab Technologies is trying to build a world class business modeled on creating a class leading and comprehensive music technology company. In addition to purchasing Sonar the company owns music stores, instrument manufacturing facilities as well as media technology such as a web design and development platform. Purchasing a world class daw on the cheap and then giving it away is cheap publicity that brings a lot of exposure to the other music related products in the company porfolio. If you want to know what changes have been made since BandLab acquired the DAW release notes are available +++ HERE +++. Most fixes were made to remove old, long identified annoyances and make the product more stable. The enhancements made seem to be directed toward linking the daw to the online BandLab environment. There are some knowledgeable computer people on this forum. Share the make and model of your computer and we can likely offer some suggestions on swapping out the 250GB SSD for a SSD with more storage space. Last November I upgraded a Dell laptop from a 250 GB hard drive to a 500 GB SSD not opening one for more than fifteen years.
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Fear not. All you need do is run the installer it will simply update what you have in place. Things you may have set up in your old version will most likely just be picked up. I use totally different folders to default so I had to go into Preferences and adjust the paths but that is normal (had to do the same going from X2 to X3).
You can still use the old version if you want it is still there on your PC. There is no risk as I see it. What you have is run locally.
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Thanks guys,
I think I will download Cakewalk on a new laptop I have and check it out. I still have access to all the old stuff on my Cakewalk account. I have no idea when all that will go away.
On the main machine I use I replaced the mother board some time back and don't remember which one it was. Will have to open it up to see.
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32 GB RAM ( I forget what it was DDR????)
Samsung 840 Pro SSD 250 Gig ( this is the problem child)
Only 15 gigs free
I need to change all this up and get at least a 1 TB SSD. But...I am not sure just what I want to go to next. Actually the current system is running fine. I am not sure if I even want to continue with windows. I have given some thought to building a custom MAC system. Many things have changed and improved from the time I built this system.
I can say that Win 10 has been the biggest PITB operating system I have ever used from Microsoft. I have it running the way I want at the moment but who knows what will go on tomorrow...lol I hope we are going the right direction with music. Vinyl to MP3...what was that crap? But there does seem to be a trend going back in the other direction.
Cheers,
Billy
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I still have access to all the old stuff on my Cakewalk account. I have no idea when all that will go away. Having just completely reinstalled three computers recently, you can still authorize all your Cakewalk stuff, but yes, don't know how long that will last.
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