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Both being great fans of Jim Steinman and Meatloaf, Eddie and I thought it would be a huge challenge to try and write something in that style, so here it is! I kicked it off with a verse and chorus and sent the SEQ to Eddie who promptly slowed the tempo from 130bpm to 110bpm, which brought it more into line with a Meatloaf power ballad. He then added the second verse, made some subtle phrasing changes to the chorus and sent the file back with a lead vocal on. I added some backing vocals, but it was apparent that we needed a higher harmony as well, so my wife, June, kindly provided that. She used to sing radio jingles, but getting her to sing into a mic these days requires all sorts of bribery! So, The drums are RD Rock Modern Hard Even, the Sax is an RT which I can't remember and there's an RT acoustic rhythm guitar strumming in there somewhere. The other guitars, bass and piano are down to me. The whole thing was tracked-up in Realband, but mixed in Harrison Mixbus 32C. I moved into Mixbus so that I could use my "posh" 64bit VSTs which don't seem to like working under J-Bridge. NEVER BEEN A BETTER TIME (To Tell You Goodbye)There'll never be a better time for me to tell you goodbye So let me say the words and then Just turn around and walk away, never asking why Before I change my mind again It's better this way by far, before you fall into the trap Before you find you're in too deep, and can't find your way back Everybody knows that... I've always been kinda restless I'm always gonna be that way Till the cows come home and the pigeons roost And I'm waiting on the Judgement Day Don't pin your hopes on me, girl I'm never gonna be that guy Cos some things work and some times hurt And I don't want to see you cry It's time for us to take a peek into our history And try to figure what went wrong It's one of those things that's really neither you or me More admitting that we don't belong We've both lived long enough - by now we should have found A peg that's square will never fit, into a hole that's round Everybody knows that... As ever, we're always grateful to all those who have the time to give it a listen. Many thanks, ROG & Eddie
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The big drums are good and punchy and the sax sounds great.
The stabs work well. And the stops/holds...Nice pop piano work - especially between verses...would have liked to hear the harmonies up considerably and a bit beefier bass...
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great mix,
love the drums and everything else
sounds like a very good Ringo track to me
and Meatloaf of course
very nice collaboration by all involved
enjoyed!
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Great job on this one... I enjoyed it. You've also created some nicely shining lyrics like "Cos some things work and some just hurt" and "A peg that's square will never fit, into a hole that's round" Congratulations to you & Eddie & June.
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Great pop rock song with a killer chorus and powerful production, vocals and backing vocals really work and the drum level is just right. Yes I can hear some Meatloaf there, but for some reason certain Irish rock bands came to my mind (e.g. The Saw Doctors).
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The chorus really comes into its own on the final run through. BIG sound for a big song.
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Cool intro. Jumps right in. This sounded great. Super vocal.
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Just bumping back to the top, because that's what we do here. Tomorrow I will add "NEW MIX" so it looks more legit.
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Very nice.
You nailed the Meatloaf vibe in the chorus... or.... was it a Jimmy Buffet thing going on there? I'm not exactly sure which one you channeled better...... But I liked it.
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Hi, ROG and Eddie !
Absolutely superb tune Love everything about it and ---oohhh that rhytmic side of it - wonderful !!!:_))
Cheers Dani
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Good chorus. I don't know more than 1 or 2 songs from Meatloaf. so I cannot really compare too much, but I think you made a nice song. As a mix it sounds a bit over-compressed - maybe the song would be even better if there were more space for all instruments? Just saying - it is of course a matter of personal taste how dynamic you want a track to be. Thanks for sharing! Will
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The big drums are good and punchy and the sax sounds great.
The stabs work well. And the stops/holds...Nice pop piano work - especially between verses...would have liked to hear the harmonies up considerably and a bit beefier bass...
Hi Floyd, You have a good ear and I always value your opinion. You could be right about the bass and the harmonies, but it's a long tale and I'll send you a PM! Many thanks for looking in on this one. Cheers, ROG.
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great mix,
love the drums and everything else
sounds like a very good Ringo track to me
and Meatloaf of course
very nice collaboration by all involved
enjoyed!
Kenny Hi Kenny, Thanks for looking in - always appreciate your opinion and pleased you enjoyed it. Cheers, ROG.
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Great job on this one... I enjoyed it. You've also created some nicely shining lyrics like "Cos some things work and some just hurt" and "A peg that's square will never fit, into a hole that's round" Congratulations to you & Eddie & June.
Many thanks, Jim. Pleased you like the lyrics - one line is mine and the other Eddie's, so very diplomatic. Cheers, ROG.
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Great pop rock song with a killer chorus and powerful production, vocals and backing vocals really work and the drum level is just right. Yes I can hear some Meatloaf there, but for some reason certain Irish rock bands came to my mind (e.g. The Saw Doctors).
Janne Hi Janne, That's very kind. Many thanks for the listen and review. Cheers, ROG.
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I don't think I was ever a fan of Meatloaf but I'll stand with my bic - or is it cellphone lights now? I also thought the bass could've been beefier. Otherwise I thought it was a very cool production and the bribery was obviously worth it.
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The chorus really comes into its own on the final run through. BIG sound for a big song. Many thanks, Ray. Much appreciated. Cheers, ROG.
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Cool intro. Jumps right in. This sounded great. Super vocal. Hi Scott. Many thanks for the review. Particularly pleased about the vocals - we were all struggling with colds when we laid down the vocals tracks, so it's good to get positive feedback. Cheers, ROG.
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Very nice.
You nailed the Meatloaf vibe in the chorus... or.... was it a Jimmy Buffet thing going on there? I'm not exactly sure which one you channelled better...... But I liked it.
Yep.... Hi Herb, Always pleased to get your views and glad you liked this one. Yeah, Jimmy Buffet is OK with me! Many thanks. Cheers, ROG.
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Great job channeling the big man!! Both the sentiment of the song, and the music (particularly the quick chord changes at the end of some lines) really capture the Steinman thing. I've always been a big fan myself and you guys have captured his essence well! Very nice!! Take care. Greg
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Hi, ROG and Eddie !
Absolutely superb tune Love everything about it and ---oohhh that rhytmic side of it - wonderful !!!:_))
Cheers Dani Hi Dani, Many thanks. Always appreciate your reviews and pleased you liked it. Cheers, ROG.
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Good chorus. I don't know more than 1 or 2 songs from Meatloaf. so I cannot really compare too much, but I think you made a nice song. As a mix it sounds a bit over-compressed - maybe the song would be even better if there were more space for all instruments? Just saying - it is of course a matter of personal taste how dynamic you want a track to be. Thanks for sharing! Will Hi Will. Many thanks for the review - much appreciated. Cheers, ROG.
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ROG & Eddie,
I love the way you have captured the Meatloaf vibe... Excellent mix and a good vocal by Eddie.
Much enjoyed!
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I don't think I was ever a fan of Meatloaf but I'll stand with my bic - or is it cellphone lights now? I also thought the bass could've been beefier. Otherwise I thought it was a very cool production and the bribery was obviously worth it. Josie, SO nice to get a review from you, many thanks. You could be right about the bass - I'm working in some new monitor speakers and they're taking a bit of getting used to. Next time the bass will probably rattle the windows! Cheers, ROG.
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Great job channelling the big man!! Both the sentiment of the song, and the music (particularly the quick chord changes at the end of some lines) really capture the Steinman thing. I've always been a big fan myself and you guys have captured his essence well! Very nice!! Take care. Greg Hi Greg. You know I always value your opinion, so really pleased to get all the positive comments. Many thanks for the review. Cheers, ROG.
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Well, after I picked up the monitors and put them back on the shelf I was able to enjoy the production...
Man, that drum kit sounds HUGE.
I know absolutely nothing about Meatloaf...but what a classic rock sound!
Rock on...
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If you do ever get motivated to listen to any of his stuff, also research Jim Steinman who writes and produces most of it. Meatloaf hits have run the gamut from hard edge rockers (Bat Out Of Hell) to soft ballads ( Anything For Love, and the Diane Warren penned I'd Lie For You.) But Steinman himself has put out some stuff with him singing (with most of Meatloaf's band and backing singers) that are great. Rock and Roll Dreams Come Through.
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Well, after I picked up the monitors and put them back on the shelf I was able to enjoy the production...
Man, that drum kit sounds HUGE.
I know absolutely nothing about Meatloaf...but what a classic rock sound!
Rock on...
J&B Hi J&B, Yes, it's a hotter mix than I usually go for, but the Meatloaf rock tracks tend to be quite powerful. As Eddie said, there's a lot of variety in Steinman/Meatloaf material and it's all very theatrical - the Bat Out Of Hell DVD has some wonderful videos. So, glad your monitors survived the listen and many thanks for the review. Cheers, ROG.
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This is great ROG! You are the professor of Rock and Roll Dude!
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This is great ROG! You are the professor of Rock and Roll Dude! Ah, David, you are just too kind, but thank you, much appreciated. Cheers, ROG.
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Hey ROG, played this for a friend who knows the genre really well. He was extremely impressed with the production chops!!
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Hi there J&B and many thanks for that.
As far as I can tell, Meatloaf's music tends to be one of those things which polarises opinion - either you love it or hate it. I fall into the first category, but trying to write in that style was a big challenge and the feedback is most welcome.
Working at the moment on a track which I think Bud will like, if only for the title! Watch this space....
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