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Youtube doesn't allow monetisation of any samples, even those that are royalty free, so you can't monetise a song you have made with band in a box real tracks. Some of the ads on Songlink require that 'You must control master and all rights.' I guess that means you can't ever submit a track to publishers etc. that uses BIAB real tracks for any commercial gain in this regard, which puts me off using it, which is a shame. Any users got any experience/tips on this, please?
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You own all rights to your compositions using BiaB tracks; otherwise, this would be a lonely forum  We have 22 songs licensed through a music library and an album on all the major streaming platforms. All songs use in part BiaB RealTracks, RealDrums and MidiSuperTracks. There are many threads on this subject. Of course this assumes that you are not infringing on the rights of a copyrighted song. Bud PS We often give a shout-out and link to PG Music in our YouTube video credits without mentioning anything specific about each track.
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"We have 22 songs licensed through a music library and an album on all the major streaming platforms.*"
*All licences handled exclusively through The Starmaker Machine. Please remit to:
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"We have 22 songs licensed through a music library and an album on all the major streaming platforms.*"
*All licences handled exclusively through The Starmaker Machine. Please remit to:
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Muckoluski, OK. PayPal OK?
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Looks like this Rain1 person is just trolling the forum. New member and only 1 post.
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Well something has to be your first post And it has been a frequent question over the years.
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Brand new members do actually start with 1 post. I think we need a little leeway still
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Brand new members do actually start with 1 post. I think we need a little leeway still Good point.
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When you purchase Band-in-a-Box you are also purchasing the right to commercially use the content (RealTracks, Midi Supertracks, loops, styles and so on)in any original song project you create. You do not have the right to re-create material that is protected by copyright that you do not own unless you obtain a license to use the material. There are several forum members that have sold projects using PG Music source material to sound libraries and tv shows or albums of original music. In fact, +++ THIS +++ video recently published by Geekazine is an interview of Tobin with PG Music at the 2019 NAMM show has Tobin answering that very question.
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This is sort of a related question. If I use BB and other methods to produce a song and sell the copyright to someone do they have the right to not disclose where or how the song was produced? I assume the answer is yes. Also could they say recordings from Brent Mason were use for example?
In fact if I produce an original song and copyright it using BB and other methods can I say that recordings produced by Brent Mason were used in the song?
I understand I have purchased the right to use the content but do I have the right to use Brent Mason's name as one of the guitar players on the song?
This is most likely a legal question without a simple answer.
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Youtube doesn't allow monetisation of any samples, even those that are royalty free, so you can't monetise a song you have made with band in a box real tracks. Songlink requires that 'You must control master and all rights.' I guess that means you can't ever submit a track to publishers etc. that uses BIAB real tracks for any commercial gain in this regard, which puts me off using it, which is a shame. Any users got any experience/tips on this, please? Yep.... So,,, if you create your music using Band in A Box, you have control of the master and all rights. You bought the program BiaB and therefore have the legal right to use it, and therefore everything you create with it is yours... 100%. Unless you have a co-writer on the songs or another musician playing a track. BUT.... if you get a control agreement in writing.... as I have done when I used other musicians..... guess what? Yep, you still control the master and all rights and have the right to license it. As others have pointed out, several of us here are licensing the music we write to publishers and music libraries for commercial purposes and are getting paid for it. YouTube and other sites have rules because they don't want to be sued. There are ways for you to post up your music and monetize it.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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thanks for replying to my question, chaps!
First of all, Sammy, I am real, just like Bigfoot!
I did register a new log in though, as I want this question to be anonymous.
I know that there have been discussions on this before, but the answers that I have read are contradictory.
I have put my latest album on CDBaby and gone for pro-publishing. On the page ‘opt in for monetization options’, there is a button for ‘collect youtube money – earn revenue from your music on YouTube’. Under a disclaimer, it says: “NOTE: you CANNOT monetize music that use royalty-free samples or blanket licenses (e.g. GarageBand loops, free samples, etc.) on YouTube.” (It also has a video tutorial.)
I contacted cdbaby and they confirmed that they thought that this meant I could NEVER monetize my music on YouTube (which is written, performed and produced entirely by myself with a few guest performers and some BIAB real tracks, no other samples or unacknowledged writers – 2 tracks are co-writes). For this reason it has put me off using BIAB for released tracks, which is a shame as I think it is brilliant.
When I say the post on an ad from a publisher on Songlink, I thought, here we go, I can’t ever send my tracks off to publishers as backing tracks which is also a drawback.
I would love to be able to monetize my music, or to not feel that I have ‘cheated’ somehow.
Cdbaby has put all of the tracks on youtube themselves anyway (but with no monetization of course.)
This is my confusion. Any other experiences from anyone please?
(I will look up the links you have sent me everyone, thanks.)
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thanks for replying to my question, chaps!
..... the answers that I have read are contradictory.
I contacted cdbaby and they confirmed that they thought that this meant I could NEVER monetize my music on YouTube (which is written, performed and produced entirely by myself with a few guest performers and some BIAB real tracks, no other samples or unacknowledged writers – 2 tracks are co-writes). For this reason it has put me off using BIAB for released tracks, which is a shame as I think it is brilliant.
When I say the post on an ad from a publisher on Songlink, I thought, here we go, I can’t ever send my tracks off to publishers as backing tracks which is also a drawback.
I would love to be able to monetize my music, or to not feel that I have ‘cheated’ somehow.
Cdbaby has put all of the tracks on youtube themselves anyway (but with no monetization of course.)
This is my confusion. Any other experiences from anyone please?
(I will look up the links you have sent me everyone, thanks.) yep... you can easily get contradictory info so you really have to do your own research. co-writes are another thing. While I like to do co-writes, it's really a pain to get those songs published. Great example, I found what sounded like a hot opportunity for a film/TV placement and the song fit the listing to a "T". However, the other writer didn't want to commit to an exclusive deal. End of story, the song couldn't be submitted. Regarding the whole monetize the tunes on YouTube, you might have to contact the company and explain things to them but if you own the rights, no one else can monetize the songs and they have to, by law, monetize them in your name. How much red tape you'll have to jump through is another story.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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I once had a BIAB song rejected for copyright registration because it contained "samples". Only time that has ever happened. Out of 100+ copy-written previous submissions.
So it is a real problem.
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I once had a BIAB song rejected for copyright registration because it contained "samples". Only time that has ever happened. Out of 100+ copy-written previous submissions.
Hey Bob, how did they know that you used BIAB? As far as CDBaby goes I have done six CD's through them going back to 2003 and have never had a problem. The songs are on all the major platforms, and I've received some money from sync licensing which is mostly people using my music for a youtube video. $5.54 to be exact 
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I did register a new log in though, as I want this question to be anonymous.
Registering more than one user name is against the rules established for the forum, no matter what your motives. Just sayin’
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Also could they say recordings from Brent Mason were use for example?
In fact if I produce an original song and copyright it using BB and other methods can I say that recordings produced by Brent Mason were used in the song?
I understand I have purchased the right to use the content but do I have the right to use Brent Mason's name as one of the guitar players on the song? I have posed this question directly to PGM in the past and was told we CANNOT use the names of the RealTrack artists.
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I once had a BIAB song rejected for copyright registration because it contained "samples". Only time that has ever happened. Out of 100+ copy-written previous submissions.
As far as CDBaby goes I have done six CD's through them going back to 2003 and have never had a problem. The songs are on all the major platforms, and I've received some money from sync licensing which is mostly people using my music for a youtube video. $5.54 to be exact I have no idea. I sure didn't mention it!  Regards, Bob
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I noticed that a number of the libraries have forms for songs uploaded and a list of things you have to answer. One of those is about the use of samples. If the tracks don't sound synthy, I simply click on NO SAMPLES USED and havn't had a song rejected for that reason. Other reasons? Oh yeah, but never from using samples. It also asks if you own all the rights and master..... and of course, absolutely I own it all.
One of the sites I have used.... has had a song in "pending" status because it's a co-write and one of the writers has yet to sign off on the song even though they know they have to authorize the song.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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OK, thanks, well I will try to delete my other log in - I would've just changed my user name if I knew how to do it!
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that's really interesting because I did consider putting the names of the BIAB players on my album liner notes. Really glad I didn't now!
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As for artist's names:
I seem to recall PGMusic explained previously that it is because we create the songs.
The Realtracks artist has never heard our song, and likely may have played something completely different if he had.
With a little bit of audio editing knowledge we can literally slice/dice up a lot of things the artist would never have played.Good or bad.
Let alone if their part becomes the hook of the song. Then you venture into weird territories.
It really is the best for everyone, in my mind, to discourage it as far as mentioning the artists names.
Make your sound your own!
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After a quick read through, here, it seems to me the point is that
"Royalty Free" is not the same thing as ownership. It simply means that
you don't have to pay anything to the owner of the material. With BiaB,
however, you actually own the tracks which you create with the program.
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thanks everyone, I feel reassured!
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Side bar question.
Were you ever in another forum simply as "Rain"? Living in Las Vegas at the time.
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You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
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