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I am reading a book that is jaw-droppingly good on the craft of writing a best-selling novel. It is by Donald Maass, a best-seller's literary agent who also has written 16 novels and sells a lot of books (his agency averages 150 per year).
I find it fascinating what he has said about the attributes of the people who sell millions of books, as opposed to, say, three.
Maass says they all have the same attributes.
I find the complete list to be very interesting, which includes volunteering, mentoring and constant solicitation of feedback.
Very, very interesting. I think I see some parallels to songwriting. Hmmmmmmmmmm.
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I’ve been working with professional novelists for thirty years. I’ve thought a lot about what separates the successful ones from those who aren’t. The good ones don’t go it alone. They have sounding boards: critique partners, agents, editors, and key readers. They are students of the craft. They read, review, teach, mentor, volunteer, and stay open.
Maass, Donald. The Breakout Novelist: Craft and Strategies for Career Fiction
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writing is writing. the same general rules tend to apply.
but really, when you think about it..... doesn't this apply to most other things too?
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Interesting David.
From what I've heard, the ultimate success formula is simple.
1-Decide what you want
2-Take action towards it
3-Notice if it's working or not
4-Change if necessary
5-Repeat
It's not easy, even thought it's simple. I don't think most people ever apply it. Most are happy with where they are.
Thanks for sharing man!
Chad (Hope that makes it easier)
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Interesting David.
From what I've heard, the ultimate success formula is simple.
1-Decide what you want
2-Take action towards it
3-Notice if it's working or not
4-Change if necessary
5-Repeat
It's not easy, even thought it's simple. I don't think most people ever apply it. Most are happy with where they are.
Thanks for sharing man! Good stuff! I would change #1 to set realistic goals. IMHO the biggest downfall with expectations is we have a tendency to set very high and often unachievable goals. For instance a New Year's resolution of "I'm going to lose 100 lbs" is unrealistic whereas a goal of "I'm going to lose 5 lbs a month until I'm satisfied with my weight" is realistic. YMMV
Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up.
Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.
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HTL,
This is very similar to what I have heard Richard Branson and others like him say. (I met Branson, actually, once upon a distant moon, and he asked me if I wanted to go to a party with him and Iggy Pop. Guess what I said.)
On success in general, I have had the fortune to meet some super successful people like him and they were SO NICE. And very down to earth. Not at all what I expected.
When I met Branson and was trying to interview him he asked me a gazillion questions about MYSELF. I had to remind him the interview was about him. But he made me feel like the most important person on the face of the earth. 10 feet tall. I remember thinking: God this guy is awesome. I would like to work for him. Man, I would do anything in the world for this guy.
Then I thought:
"Oh I get it. I see why he is the most successful entrepreneur in England now."
There's a lot of success to be had in making other people feel great, I think.
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A couple of relevant quotes by Zig Ziglar.
"You can have everything in life you want, if you will just help other people get what they want."
"If you go looking for a friend, you’re going to find they’re scarce. If you go out to be a friend, you’ll find them everywhere."
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Very interesting indeed. A good friend of mine who was a musician actual switched to writing novels a couple years ago. There definitely appears to be some similarities. Like Guitarhacker said - writing is writing. I applaud people who can write a whole novel. That's a lot of commitment. I might have to check that book out - thanks for sharing David 
Cheers,
Deryk
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That's really neat. I've always wondered how many parallels there were in regards to the arts and trying to be successful in any of those fields.
Cheers,
Ember
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I was told, informally, by a successful literary agent that some of the best writers welcome the editorial process, meaning, they don't hold it against the editors for making changes in their copy. Made sense to me. Bearing in mind, this entailed commercial publishing.
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