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You're an experienced user so please excuse the dumb question. Do you have your midi styles set to automatically substitute Real Drums for midi drums? Bob

Asking dumb questions, with BIAB i am getting used to it; here's one for you: In the old days of MIDI sequencing one used to mess with Controller 123, 'all notes off' and more like 124, omni off, 0r 122, local on/off. It seems old fashioned these days, tried to find a CC123 on STOP choice function with BIAB, seems not to be there there? In Cubase it's still there. 123 will shut down & kill any runaway MIDI monkey usually. F

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You're an experienced user so please excuse the dumb question. Do you have your midi styles set to automatically substitute Real Drums for midi drums?

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Nope. I think it's a neat feature, but I've always unchecked that automatic substitution option. Also note that this is not only w/ respect to drum tracks. I just used that as an example. I have that issue every time I try and load a VSTi on any MIDI track whatsoever :-(


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If you are not using the default synth maybe just set it to midiOut.dll so you get no sound.


Hmm,...not sure I follow. Set what to "midiOut.dll"?


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Originally Posted By: Andrew - PG Music
Does your VSTi Plugins window look something like this?




Yes, it looks exactly like this.


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A null output so you get no sound from the default midi device if you just use virtual instruments, you can set it to SforzandoVSTi and leave it empty.
https://code.google.com/archive/p/pizmidi/downloads

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A null output so you get no sound from the default midi device if you just use virtual instruments, you can set it to SforzandoVSTi and leave it empty.
https://code.google.com/archive/p/pizmidi/downloads


Ermm... I'm not exactly sure what this means, or what I'm supposed to do with those files...


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curious: solved?


If you're referring to Pipeline's latest suggestion, then I must confess I don't really understand what it's about.

TBH, I don't really have much time to spend on this right now due to work volume issues, and a possible relocation coming up in my life at the end of the month which was rather unexpected. This compounded with the fact that I've also been crippled with so many access violations--it's gotten to the point where all I do is press space bar to pause a song and have to click through 9 layers of violation popups before the program continues (or, worse, straight up crashes and shuts itself down), that I'm afraid I'll have to shelve this program for a while until after the next few updates have been released. :-(


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If you set the default midi synth to SforzandoVSTi and leave it empty you should get NO SOUND.
The download are just a lot of useful midi plugins including midiOut.dll that can be used as a null device.

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it's gotten to the point where all I do is press space bar to pause a song


Any song, every time? Could you take a screenshot next time that happens? What I suggest is to run the main Band-in-a-Box installer again (just the one installer, not the RT's etc), install the program (and latest patch) to a folder C:\bbtest. Run the program from this folder by double-clicking C:\bbtest\bbw.exe. Don't change any settings from their defaults, and if you do make changes, make a note of what change you made (including drivers etc.). Then see if the VSTi / Drums issue still happens.


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