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Ok, let's start with the good. ALL the PG Music products are superb! I've been a user since DOS ver. 1.4. Yeah I'm an old guy.
Now for the bad. The install program for BIAB and RB of the past few years SUCKS! Not everyone wants external drives with dangley bits around dogs and kids! BIAB works best when all is installed on the same HDD especially if one goes to the trouble of installing the Real Drums and Tracks on one's computer. This has been an annual burning sphincter! In other words not something one wants to recall. Especially if you have the Audiophile version.
If one does a complete re-install of WIN on a new massive C: (4TB) and then does a complete re-install of BIAB, there is a myriad of things that need to be backed up to make this a seamless and data lossless project. Especially if stuff in the new version gets moved around from the old.
In essence the "Have Fun" only happens after a crappy installation process!
Here's my humble suggestion; either fix the install program for my situation or do a detailed checklist of what to do before to backup and then how to get the backed up items to where they belong. In my case, I did what the install program suggested. DO an option #1 install and then copy the real drums and tracks to the bb dir on my c:. Was that the end? Not by a long shot. Enough griping. I hope someone who has the AUTHORITY (hint-hint Mr. Gannon) will get back to me or just take this suggestion as all of the others I have made over the years were ignored. Either way let me know your thoughts Mr. Gannon or coder responsible for the install program.
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DJL,
If you have a desktop and an empty Hard drive bay, you can have a hard drive dedicated to RealTrack/Drums only (not the program).
That way, you do not have to do a "massive" reinstall of "everything", just the programs BIAB/RB, which are not hefty at all. And when smaller updates to real tracks come out, you can point installation to that secondary drive to be up to date.
I hope veterans will correct me, if I am wrong.
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I have had no problems installing or moving BIAB files and folders around.  I've always installed all the Realband/Realdrums on to a second installed audio hard drive in my my last few PCs due to the space taken. In fact all my BIAB files are now on this drive totalling around 143GB and it runs from there perfectly happily. BIAB installers and updates always check where you want the different elements stored. And these settings can be easily changed in Preferences if you need to do so at a later date.
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I have had no problems installing or moving BIAB files and folders around. I've always installed all the Realband/Realdrums on to a second installed audio hard drive in my my last few PCs due to the space taken. In fact all my BIAB files are now on this drive totalling around 143GB and it runs from there perfectly happily. BIAB installers and updates always check where you want the different elements stored. And these settings can be easily changed in Preferences if you need to do so at a later date. YEP, i guess it's the only way, and all my BIAB stuff runs from ONE internal extra drive, also BIAB and RealBand. Never had a problem with that; just tell BIAB where the Realtracks etc are located in preferences. F
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P.S. Another option if you really want to keep all on one drive is create partitions on that drive. Partition "A" for programs, Partition "B" for content (RT/RD). That way, if you need to reinstall programs / OS, you can format particular partition, not the whole drive.
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DJL everybody has their own way of working but to me you're making things way too hard on yourself. First, why do you use a 4tb spinning HD as you're system drive? Pretty much the whole world uses SSD's now. The speed difference is astounding. I just got a 500 gig SSD for $140. Only actual applications goes on it, all data including RT/RD's stays external.
That aside if you have the Audiophile external drive you can do everything from that drive, no need to install anything except some fonts. Having an external drive is a problem with kids? Lock it in a drawer, it's one little USB cable. You should be able to figure that out. Seriously, you can't figure a way to do that and save yourself hours and hours of grief copying all that stuff onto your system drive?
Bob
Biab/RB latest build, Win 11 Pro, Ryzen 5 5600 G, 512 Gig SSD, 16 Gigs Ram, Steinberg UR22 MkII, Roland Sonic Cell, Kurzweil PC3, Hammond SK1, Korg PA3XPro, Garritan JABB, Hypercanvas, Sampletank 3, more.
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Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
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Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
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Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
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Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
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We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
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