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I have a song that goes Verse, Chorus, Chorus, Verse, Chorus. How can I make BIAB repeat the two choruses together and then move on to the second verse. I want to input the chorus only one time and have the little 2x at the last bar to repeat the chorus and move on to the last Verse, Chorus and be done. Hope I explained this right. I am still a pretty basic BIAB user with BIAB 2014. Thanks, Bill

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Most would input the song linearly. That is to unfold the song and not have any repeats or tags and uses part markers to delineate between verses, chorus's, intro's, outro's, bridges and instrumental breaks.


The BIAB chord page defaults to one 32 bar chorus that repeats 3 times.


To change this to one big chorus: Open the Edit drop down menu.


Edit\Song form\unfold Convert to 1 BIG Chorus

To enter a second chorus to immediately follow a first chorus as you've outlined above, a shortcut is:

Manually enter the chords of the first chorus - For instance the chorus is 16 bars and you want to repeat those 16 bars for a second chorus.


After you've entered the 16 bars, in the next bar, Type K16 and enter and BIAB will populate the next 16 bars as a second chorus.

Manually enter the next verse. You can copy and paste the verses and chorus's as well.



Last edited by Charlie Fogle; 03/28/19 02:17 AM.

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You can't do it exactly the way you want to (BIAB doesn't support that). You'll need to enter the chorus at least twice. Charlie has given you information about creating a full unfolded version.

Another thing you can do is the following. I'm assuming your verse is 8 bars and your chorus is 8 bars. I'll assume you also have a four bar intro.

So enter:
1: | I | I | I | I |
5: | V | V | V | V | V | V | V | V |
13: | C | C | C | C | C | C | C | C |
21: | C | C | C | C | C | C | C | C |
29: | E |

Frame your song to start at bar 5 (the verse) and end at bar 28. Set your repeats to 2 times. In the song settings screen, set the tag ending to to jump to bar 29 after playing bar 20.

When you hit play, the song will play the intro (bars 1-4), then the verse (bars 5-12), then the chorus (bars 13-20), then the chorus again (bars 21-28 - which is duplicated in bars 21 through 28 - as Charlie said, just do an easy "K" copy operation), and then after bar 28 will jump back to bar 5 and play the verse again (bars 5-12), and then the chorus (bars 13-20), and then jump from the end of bar 20 to bar 29 to end the song.

Hope that made sense.


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Thanks Guys. I am glad it cant be done instead of me missing something. Charlie What is K16? I am assuming it is saying to "Copy 16 bars" Is it the same as "Copy" in Copy/Paste

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K16 is a keyboard shortcut that says copy the last 16 bars to the current location. Just put the cursor in the bar (say bar 17) and just type K16, and the contents of bars 1-16 will automatically fill bars 17-32.


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What John said. But the number can be anything and not just 16. K + <enter> alone will fill the last 4 or 8 bars depending on the number of bars preceding the insert. K10 will fill 10 bars. K12 will fill twelve bars and so on. It's a handy shortcut.


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It can be done - just use 'Song Form' AABACD

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Thanks Charlie and JFord. I see it is faster than copy/paste to use K.

Keith44 Thanks for the Song Structure thing. I have never used it but I tried it now. In my original post I just wanted to eliminate typing in the Chorus a second time. I can see this saves time but what I do is make a track of a song I want to sing and this would be a shortcut if the songs were all structured the same but they are not. Some of them are really weird!

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