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I'll just add that I have had occasional random Access Violations with 2010, but have never used the Soloist feature.


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What, you expected reproducibility?

That costs extra.

You should have purchased the Reproducibility Pak option (grin).


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Thanks for the suggestion, but that did not help. I also tried MME instead of ASIO and had the same results. It should be noted that 2009.5 loads and plays the file just fine, so the change to 2010 definitely affected it. And, I have 2gig of ram.

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Did you try *rebooting the computer* yet?

A change like Background Services, that might be a good idea even though Windows doesn't prompt about it.


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What, you expected reproducibility?




Obviously sells out real quick, too. Can't see any listed. I'd better get my order in to 2010.25 now.


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*Change Processor Scheduling to 'Background Services'

Control Panel ->System -> Advanced -> Performance Settings -> Advanced -> and set Processor Scheduling to "Background Services".




I did and I can't believe how quick the Realtracks processed! I blinked and they were done (less than 3 secs for a style with two RTs). Thanks Mac.


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I recently found out that RealTracks is a Background Service.


How do you determine whether s.th. is a Background Service?

The reason I ask -> on the German Forum the problem of some jerky playback of midi data via the Mediaplayer popped up. Now, this could be caused by a variety of reasons, such as slow processor, scarce disk space and whatnot. Yet if Playback via the Mediaplayer happens to be a 'Background Service', your suggested approach might help a lot.


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I recall Peter Gannon describing what the new version does to increase Real Track generation speed.

Several posters here mentioned they are using Windows XP. The tip about optimizing for background services has been around since at least Windows XP. For anyone using Windows 7, I'm not certain it applies now to Windows 7. The chief technical officer at Cakewalk, which makes SONAR, said a few months back that we SONAR users should NOT do this tweak. As a result, I haven't even looked to see if you can do it in Windows 7.


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The option is still there in Windows 7, same place it has been since XP. I tried this the other day but it did not seem to make a huge difference to me as I have a Core2Quad 2.66Ghz and the generation of tracks is quick enough anyway.

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I now checked on the option with Windows 7 on a 3 years old pentium 1.86GHz notebook -> with virtually zero effect.


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Some good comes from bad. I had forgotten abt the "background services" tweak. The speed is scary.Abt 2 sec. or less for 4 RT & 1 RD


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John, what's the improvement on your system 'with tweak' compared to 'no tweak' in terms of percentages?


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John, what's the improvement on your system 'with tweak' compared to 'no tweak' in terms of percentages?




same song same style 4 RT & 1 RD
Tweaked=3 sec.
Untweaked=6 sec.

Done with a stop watch. % wise that's a lot. Actual time no big deal either way.


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>>> *Change Processor Scheduling to 'Background Services'
Control Panel ->System -> Advanced -> Performance Settings -> Advanced -> and set Processor Scheduling to "Background Services".


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That's a good tip. But I would only recommend trying that if you are having a problem. My old XP laptop doesn't need that setting. That setting could make things better or worse, so use it with caution, and only if you are having a playback stutter problem, and have a slow machine to begin with.

ASIO Soundcard drivers are a background service, so it might benefit ASIO users.
This is discussed here...
http://ssl-wiki.help.bootlegs.de/Optimizing_PC_for_SSL


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Regarding the Frozen track- w/ generated Soloist causing an Access Error in certain cases.... thanks for reporting that Noel, and we will make a patch for that situation within a week or so.


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same song same style 4 RT & 1 RD
Tweaked=3 sec.
Untweaked=6 sec.


That's interesting. I now double checked on a Core Duo T8300 2.4 GHz Vista system here and obtained ca. 8 sec either way -> with AND without the tweak. Wonder what would make the tweak working (if needed) ...


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Different processor types is my guess, Martin. Math coprocessing, L2 cache, memory handling, and I probably have forgotten something...

Anyway, the tweak likely works best on some of the older single core cpus and you probably don't need it on yours, as Peter has indicated.

I follow the old pilot's method, get some altitude and throw the stinkin' switch. if it don't do nuthin', throw it back the other way real quicklike and hope your backseater didn't notice...


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A reboot would be a good idea to enable the background services tweak, one way or the other.


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Hi Noel,
Thanks for the report. That issue (some access violcations on songs with Frozen Soloist track) is fixed for the next build - coming soon - ikely within a week. Workaround for now would be to un-freeze the Soloist track.


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