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Yes, it does do it in three chunks. (It took about five minutes to generate 524 bars of four tracks and a drum track on my computer.) It also inserted a C chord into bar 481. I had a G chord in bar 478 and a D chord in bar 485. So this behavior will repeat every 240 bars. I didn't do any regeneration of a short section of bars that crosses the 480/481 bar boundary, but I'm pretty sure the same thing will happen that happens at the 240/241 bar boundary.
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I should also mention that I forgot to change the time signature to 3/4 to match the style I had selected, so when I generated tracks the first time there were huge gaps in those tracks. And when I realized what happened and changed the time signature and then regenerated all the tracks, the chords I had inserted into bars 238, 245, 478, and 485 had been moved to other bars. So, I deleted them and re-entered them into their correct location. But a couple of them moved again when I regenerated. It took me several iterations of these steps before I finally ended up with all four chords in the right location after the tracks were generated. This probably wouldn't have happened if I had just started over with a new file and had changed the time signature prior to inserting any chords and generating any tracks.
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Thanks for the info. I'll pass it on.
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Even without a fix for the glitches. BIAB/RB will work perfectly for you. Just not the present way you use them. You can still create your song using MuseScore to make and use an XML file. You can still provide him with a MIDI file, the lead sheet and lyric sheet and a BIAB/RB rendered MP3 file along with the MP4. You can also give him full length individual MP3 tracks of any BIAB/RB generated track such as the bass, fingerpicked guitar and strumming guitar as you did on this recent project. You can do this with any BIAB/RB instrument and including as many tracks as you want.
Regarding your producer requesting changes and edits, you can not only send him a new midi file, but also all of the other tracks your furnished him updated with the edits. You can literally do these type edits in minutes not hours using overdubbing and Punch In/Out techniques and arranging your song in logical sections. Were I doing it, I would generate an audio file for whichever specific section that contains the edit in BIAB and export that audio file and then copy/paste the edited audio to replace the original audio section in RB. The whole file does not have to be regenerated. Either RB or BIAB will crossfade the entry and ending bars into the adjoining original bars seamlessly. Conceptually speaking, I understand what you're saying and mostly agree with you. The main reason it was taking me hours to prep my last song for my producer during one particular week back in March or April is that I had decided to create eight different versions of that song because we hadn't decided yet on the bpm (125 or 130), whether or not to use a capo, and whether or not to have a key change for the last chorus. Four of them were short versions and the other four were full-length versions. For both sets of versions, two were at 125 bpm, and two were at 130 bpm. For each set of bpm versions, one was in the key of G with a capo on the second fret, and the other was in the key of A without a capo. IOW, they were all effectively in the same key but had different chords. Then for both sets of the long versions, two had a key change for the last chorus, and the other two didn't. Editing each version in MuseScore took the least amount of time. The steps that consumed the most time were BiaB's audio file creation process for each version (several minutes each), ActivePresenter's video file creation process (several more minutes each), and the time it took me to reconstruct the four full length versions of this song in Tracktion (five to ten minutes each).
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I understand. Of course, I was unaware of all the preproduction work ongoing between you and your producer and was speaking conceptually. All the hours you spend make sense to me now.
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Why doesn't someone (such as yourself or another experienced user like Charlie Fogle or jazzmammal) start a discussion in the BiaB forum with the topic heading of "Known workarounds to the 255 bar limit in BiaB" (or something similar) that would serve as a central repository of all these workarounds for newbies and experienced users alike to reference whenever the need arises? (To my knowledge, such a repository doesn't exist. If it does, then please point me to it.) such a BIAB forum discussion area exists. Here ->-> -> -> -> -> ------------> Forum List\Post your own Tip and Tricks Charlie, I was looking for another one of your posts and saw this post of yours that I hadn't seen before. I wasn't aware of that forum, so thanks for the info.
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<<< I'll let all of you know when they get back to me and what they say about all of this. >>>
Please do. It's an intriguing problem.
Charlie It's been over three days since I replied to Tech Support's response to the original email I sent them about this issue and asked them to revisit it, but I still haven't heard back from them. How much longer should I wait for them to write me back before I either write them again or give them a call? I'd send them a gentle reminder email in the morning. Charlie, I received the following email from Alyssa at Tech Support yesterday. I'll let Silvertones know about it as well. "Hello Tom, Thank you for your email. We are creating a bug report for the developers and were hoping you could send over the .SEQ file you were working on so that they have the original file to test out as well. We just want to identify whether this is a program bug or specific to your system and/or song file as we are currently unable to replicate the same experience in house. Thank you, Alyssa PG Music Inc." In my reply, I sent them a link to a 320 bar .SEQ test file that only has two chords in it---a G chord in bar 238 and a D chord in bar 245---and in which I generated a single acoustic guitar RealTrack. I also informed Alyssa that the erroneous chord change in bar 241 can be heard but not seen, just as the default C chord in bar one can be heard but not seen. Here's the same link in case you or anyone else wants to check it out for themselves: https://app.box.com/s/psbmstq3htc12blg59l3p9dww8k0hit0
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Muzikluver,
Thanks for updating this thread with Alyssa's email and the file you sent. It will be interesting to see what transpires down the road.
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Yes. Thanks for the update. I've downloaded the SEQ file to test some tomorrow.
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As I mentioned. I have spoken personally with THE Developer. He is aware and working on fixes. Why would you continue to contact underlings on this matter. It'll just muddy the waters more.Give the guy a chance.
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As I mentioned. I have spoken personally with THE Developer. He is aware and working on fixes. Why would you continue to contact underlings on this matter. It'll just muddy the waters more.Give the guy a chance. Sorry, Silvertones, but I didn't contact any underlings. I received a reply from Alyssa at Tech Support in response to a followup email that I had sent a couple of weeks ago. So, all I did was write her back and give her what she asked for because of her statement that they were unable to reproduce the problem. Are you saying that I shouldn't have written her back or that I should have said something different in my email? Sorry if I "upset the apple cart," but that wasn't my intent. Because you have direct contact with THE developer, feel free to make him aware of these emails between me and Alyssa.
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I read the entire thread and posted a response at the bottom.
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I think I can say this.
I just tested RB build 4 release 4 and all works as it should. Hopefully nothing new pops its head up.
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You must be testing a beta version because the latest release on the Support page is still Version 3.
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I've been a Beta Tester for around 15 years. So yes it is a beta version.
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When do you expect them to release Version 4 for everyone to use?
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Build 4 was released today (July 05)
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Well what do you all think. Is this thread now solved.
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