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#541956 - 06/20/19 08:28 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] PETITION: Mr Gannon: Sell your company or full BIAB IP rights and tech to YAMAHA
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The task and man-resources of bringing BIAB Mac into the 2020 century are clearly so onerous - as the continual bugginess of this product proves - The Mac version in particular is really crash prone. and has been for ages.

YET...... this tech is so amazing.... and could be even more so in its future potential when combined seamlessly with a DAW infrastructure - that its time the PG owners seriously consider selling the tech to Yamaha.

YAMAHA has shown good form in handling its acquisitions over the decades. Both Steinberg and Line 6 have flourished.

Mr Gannon: your company and Steinberg go back a Long Long way in time.
It was only a matter of a couple of years between when I got my first Pro24 for my Atari St and then as soon as available - got BIAB for the Atari ST too - and eventually ended up with Cubase and BIAB on a Mac.

Its now time -that for the good of the music creating community that coding gets handed to a new team.

BIAB needs new blood developer wise. Clearly - with the archaic old code still in there I believe from Atari/early Mac (PASCAL?? ) days still in there its time for something new. In addition - a significant injection of cash for investment into development could fund the conversion and rewriting of code for both the Windows and OSX version of BIAB to use a cross-platform framework ( C++) like JUCE or QT. One this onerous rewrite of the code base was done (with the funding from Yamaha) then future releases of BIAB would be able to be put out at the same time - as happens with most other music apps these days.

In addition it could also open up the possibility of subsequent porting of the code to other platforms such as iPadOS. Hell.... even Android or LinuX !!

Put under the wing of the Steinberg team. Or a brand new team of developers who can both inject something new - perform an overhaul on the legacy code ( particularly on OSX ) and do something new and wonderful that integrates really well into the DAW - Cubase an VST3 world.

The idea of a server element - as done in Vienna Ensemble Pro could also be considered. To accelerate regeneration times etc etc...

The sale should be contingent on Yamaha putting a serious investment into a new developer team which can really take the product forward - and rethink the GUI - and more to the point - integrate BIAB as a VST3 into the Cubase and DAW ecosystem.

Imagine if a BIAB VST3 plugin ( maybe with a server back end into a new version of BIAB ) for MIDI styles could use any instrument in HALION Sonic SE ( or even full sonic )

Imagine if the power of BIAB was combined with the back catalog of Yamaha PG and Genos/Tyros styles and sounds - merged into a new style format. There's still much mileage and much benefit and flexibility to be had in the MIDI style thing over Realstyles. Great though real styles are.

In addition - imagine if BIAB songs get to use the full power of the engraving and scoring technology in both Cubase- but also - DORICO ! -

PG Music could then focus on becoming the main supplier of purely style content.

And RealBand and PowerTracks of course would be ditched - and instead an upgrade/side grade deal to a Cubase of some sort could be built into the transition.


Edited by nonchai (06/20/19 08:46 AM)

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#542080 - 06/20/19 07:03 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: PETITION: Mr Gannon: Sell your company or full BIAB IP rights and tech to YAMAHA [Re: nonchai]
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I do not support your petition. Leave PG alone to sort themselves out. Yes I have a Yamaha Instrument.

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#542085 - 06/20/19 09:54 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: PETITION: I Don't Agree With This Petition [Re: Keith44]
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Originally Posted By: Keith44
I do not support your petition. Leave PG alone to sort themselves out. Yes I have a Yamaha Instrument.


I agree with Keith.

I'm a huge fan of BIAB. PG Music have every right to develop the software as they see fit. It's their product.

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#542117 - 06/21/19 05:14 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: PETITION: Mr Gannon: Sell your company or full BIAB IP rights and tech to YAMAHA [Re: nonchai]
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Yea that's an old one cross-platform programming language upgrade delphi to c++ [CONFIRMED]
And a server BiabCloud or Re: Set up BiaB Server As A Windows Service

They have new blood, Adar is the new Plugin programmer that is going great with it.
PG will get there without selling out, they have been in a bit of a time warp but this year is a quantum leap, so stay tuned and see what happens first.
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#542125 - 06/21/19 06:59 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: PETITION: Mr Gannon: Sell your company or full BIAB IP rights and tech to YAMAHA [Re: nonchai]
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I just think that beyond any issues and challenges around updating their codebase to something modern - the synergies and possible benefits of - lets say a Yamaha+PG alliance - making BIAB seamlessly integrate into Cubase - and benefit from all the sonic advantages of Yamaha/Steinberg resources would be huge.

As mentioned - some of the benefits could be:

BIAB using Dorico technology
Dorico using BIAB technology
BIAB using Cubase MIDI editor technology
BIAB using Cubase Audio recording and editing technology
BIAB using HALION technology and high quality Gm2 + beyond ( XG? ) sounds for MIDI styles

Cubase using BIAB tech as an add-on embedded similar to how ARA and melodyne gets embedded in some daws ( forget which )



And so on..


Edited by nonchai (06/21/19 07:04 AM)

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#542194 - 06/21/19 12:22 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: PETITION: Mr Gannon: Sell your company or full BIAB IP rights and tech to YAMAHA [Re: nonchai]
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With Pipeline on this one...got this far so..!!.
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#542212 - 06/21/19 01:36 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: PETITION: Mr Gannon: Sell your company or full BIAB IP rights and tech to YAMAHA [Re: nonchai]
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The plugin is a big step it integrates with Reaper using ReaTrak
It will import Biab chords into Reaper
It will import Biab Plugin chords into Reaper
It will import Biab musicxml into Reaper
The tracks from the plugin will be fitted to any tempo map in Reaper
You can generate up RealDrum tracks directly in Reaper
When ARA is added to the plugin it will give more connection possibilities
If the plugin was opened up to Reaper's scripting even more...
The plugin now how it is will send the style's midi tracks to HALION and drag out into Cubase MIDI Editor.
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#542280 - 06/21/19 08:30 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: PETITION: Mr Gannon: Sell your company or full BIAB IP rights and tech to YAMAHA [Re: nonchai]
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-1
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#542283 - 06/21/19 09:05 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: PETITION: Mr Gannon: Sell your company or full BIAB IP rights and tech to YAMAHA [Re: nonchai]
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-1 for me too.


Edited by Charlie Fogle (06/21/19 09:12 PM)
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#542305 - 06/21/19 11:52 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: PETITION: Mr Gannon: Sell your company or full BIAB IP rights and tech to YAMAHA [Re: nonchai]
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Yamaha is a huge company with extensive resources. If they wanted to, they could just develop their own product. They wouldn't need to purchase another company's system to deliver anything. Why do they need to purchase BiaB to produce a product? They are absolutely capable to independently develop their own technology, surely? But they haven't done this. Also, they may not be in the slightest bit interested in BiaB.

I personally don't support the petition.
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#542311 - 06/22/19 12:32 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: PETITION: Mr Gannon: Sell your company or full BIAB IP rights and tech to YAMAHA [Re: VideoTrack]
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Nah, I do not support the petition. Sure not everything is perfect but what we do have with PG is a company that does listen in general. So much so that quite a number of folk get a bit upset when their views are not taken up immediately. Try that approach with most of the “big end of town”. We have a product where one feels they “know the principle players”.

A big -1.

Tony


Edited by Teunis (06/22/19 12:34 AM)
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#542417 - 06/22/19 04:42 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: PETITION: Mr Gannon: Sell your company or full BIAB IP rights and tech to YAMAHA [Re: nonchai]
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- 1 .. ridiculous proposition.
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#542436 - 06/22/19 06:59 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: PETITION: Mr Gannon: Sell your company or full BIAB IP rights and tech to YAMAHA [Re: nonchai]
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Originally Posted By: nonchai
..the conversion and rewriting of code for both the Windows and OSX version of BIAB to use a cross-platform framework ( C++) like JUCE or QT....


To get the Mac and Win the same and released at the same time needs that but as I said wait and see what the Mac version is like now it's 64 the same as Win.
I think we also suggested crowd funding but PG said that is not a problem. I think just wait, eventually the Mac and Win will need to be the same as other Audio software that has a Mac, Win and even Lin version.
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#542478 - 06/23/19 07:09 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: PETITION: Mr Gannon: Sell your company or full BIAB IP rights and tech to YAMAHA [Re: nonchai]
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Yamaha developed the XG format and that brought MIDI to new heights back in the 90's. When Windows 7 came out and 64bit was becoming the new norm, Yamaha dropped all support for the XG format including the Daughter Board, the full PCI audio board and all their software associated with the XG format. That left thousands of users around the world out in the cold. Their only choice was to either stay with any past and present Windows 32bit OS's or just say good bye to XG and move on to 64bit.

Adobe when they bought CoolEdit Pro and rebranded it as Adobe Audition, dropped all support and ability for MIDI. You had to move over to a DAW that supported MIDI or else.

Never trust a company that buys out another company. You just might get screwed down the road.

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#542481 - 06/23/19 07:38 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: PETITION: Mr Gannon: Sell your company or full BIAB IP rights and tech to YAMAHA [Re: jcland]
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Originally Posted By: jcland
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Never trust a company that buys out another company. You just might get screwed down the road.


Ask Cakewalk Pro Audio and Sonar users about that. It has happened to them twice already and now it is with a third company.
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#542542 - 06/23/19 05:40 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: PETITION: Mr Gannon: Sell your company or full BIAB IP rights and tech to YAMAHA [Re: nonchai]
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I would love to see BIAB become more compatible with the PSR line of keyboards BUT not at the expense of loosing PG Music in the process.
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#542665 - 06/24/19 06:52 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: PETITION: Mr Gannon: Sell your company or full BIAB IP rights and tech to YAMAHA [Re: nonchai]
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-1 BUT,

I would like PG to take a look at Yamaha Mobile Sequencer. This is probably the closest thing to BIAB as far as Yamaha own brand of software goes (based on Midi styles/phrasing). It is brilliant.... Unfortunately they stopped developing it couple of years back and sadly it is only available on ipads (iphones too, I think).

There some fantastic features in that software that I would love to have in some sort of form in BIAB.

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#542730 - 06/25/19 12:23 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: PETITION: Mr Gannon: Sell your company or full BIAB IP rights and tech to YAMAHA [Re: nonchai]
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Quite a strong imperative sentence in the subject line. Were I the CEO I wouldn’t like having such addressed to me.

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#544013 - 07/04/19 01:28 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: PETITION: Mr Gannon: Sell your company or full BIAB IP rights and tech to YAMAHA [Re: Pipeline]
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Originally Posted By: Pipeline
The plugin is a big step it integrates with Reaper using
It will import Biab chords into Reaper
It will import Biab Plugin chords into Reaper
It will import Biab musicxml into Reaper
The plugin now how it is will send the style's midi tracks to HALION and drag out into Cubase MIDI Editor.


Interesting top hear that Pipeline. AS well as the "wait and see" regarding future cross-platform code-base support. That will be a significant hurdle removed and bode well for the future.

Given many composers (for media - not "producers" ) use Cubase - it would be useful it the same were possible some day with Cubase ( which has a chord track ). Did PG liaise with the Reaper team to do all this or did Reaper just happen to have a well documented API or support for this? Does all this importing happen automatic or manually and on each regenerate after a change?

<the plugin can ......... drag out into Cubase MIDI Editor>

As I understand things - currently both the audio and midi data generated by BIAB must be generated and tediously re-dragged into the DAW tracks *each* time there is a change to the BIAB song arrangement .

It might require some liaison and support from the DAW developers team ( support for aliases or symbolic links to MIDI/audio render files held in BIAB directories ) but its obviously a "drag" [sic] to have to re-drag that data after **each** regenerate - so if the DAW were able to reflect the *latest* regenerated data somehow directly it might be even better.

Failing that - if the plugin VST had the option of merely **outputting** sample-timing-accurate MIDI data in real-time from the plugin into a DAW track - and the same for audio tracks - then further processing on the Realtrack and MIDI BIAB track data could be done in the DAW and no dragging would be required after each regenerate.

Clearly a tighter integration into a DAW like Cubase depends on the DAW developers being open to liaison and API support of the necessary technical requirements. Sometimes this is already supported in some sense - like for example the DOM object model in Ableton for Max4Live programming and support for python scripts for 3rd Pty hardware in Ableton . But I have no idea how much similar support is available nowadays in Cubase, Logic or PT or other DAWs.

Am I right in thinking Reaper is quite powerful in this regard ? i've given reaper a go a few times over the years - but my first impressions GUI wise have always somehow turned me off.

I just think ultimately that the true potential of BIAB technology and I.P. - even with a Mac plugin would only be realised if the tech were embedded at a deeper level into one's DAW.

And I don't thing RealBand is ever going to be it - or of any significance.


As to others mentions of old classic software and companies being swallowed up by giants - whether Gibston ( big fails there sadly ) - and its happened in part for Avid - and even Yamaha - yes this is indeed true. Track records for corporate swallow ups are often dismal. Take Compaq or DEC computers for example but HP!!

But that was why I specifically mentioned Steinberg and Line6 which were and remain - very successful examples of legendary companies being handled and managed and supported and nurtured by Yamaha rather well. Although I wish Yamaha would include more of the Cubase sequencer functionality ( or Cubasis ) in future Yamaha workstations. It would be so helpful it the transition from initial rough idea music material in a workstation were able to make it seamlessly into a DAW - and maybe even ( Wirth caveats ) - to and fro.

With the power of modern ARM chips this becomes much more doable than ever in the past.


Edited by nonchai (07/04/19 01:37 AM)

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#544017 - 07/04/19 02:35 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Biab Plugin [Re: nonchai]
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Originally Posted By: Pipeline
The plugin is a big step it integrates with Reaper using
It will import Biab chords into Reaper
It will import Biab Plugin chords into Reaper
It will import Biab musicxml into Reaper
The plugin now how it is will send the style's midi tracks to HALION and drag out into Cubase MIDI Editor.


Interesting top hear that Pipeline. AS well as the "wait and see" regarding future cross-platform code-base support. That will be a significant hurdle removed and bode well for the future.

Given many composers (for media - not "producers" ) use Cubase - it would be useful it the same were possible some day with Cubase ( which has a chord track ). Did PG liaise with the Reaper team to do all this or did Reaper just happen to have a well documented API or support for this?
Reaper has a C++ API that the plugin can communicate with.
To get the chords it's just reading the plugin's Song.txt file using ReaTrak, it will also Import chords from Biab MusicXML Export.


Does all this importing happen automatic or manually and on each regenerate after a change?
You don't need to import from the plugin chords and tracks until you have what you need, if you don't like what it generated you just generate again, you can preview the track/s in sync to the DAW tracks (if any) or just by themselves, the tracks are generate each time to a local folder, as you drag them from the plugin into the DAW separately or one by one they are dragged in from the local folder (not RAM like Biab).
Once you have the tracks in the DAW you click a button to import the chords.
This is working in Reaper now using ReaTrak, I have just about got a script working for Studio One that will get the chords with a click of a button. Then I will look into Cubase and see if I can get a script working for that.
here are some videos that just import chords from the BB Chord Output track https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=543247


<the plugin can ......... drag out into Cubase MIDI Editor>

As I understand things - currently both the audio and midi data generated by BIAB must be generated and tediously re-dragged into the DAW tracks *each* time there is a change to the BIAB song arrangement .
As mentioned above you don't need to drag them as they play from the local folder
Video: MultiRiffs Preview Playback in Sync
Video: Playback Audio/MIDI Tracks from Plugin



It might require some liaison and support from the DAW developers team ( support for aliases or symbolic links to MIDI/audio render files held in BIAB directories ) but its obviously a "drag" [sic] to have to re-drag that data after **each** regenerate - so if the DAW were able to reflect the *latest* regenerated data somehow directly it might be even better.
You could do that in Reaper, point it to the next local folder and swap tracks.
Failing that - if the plugin VST had the option of merely **outputting** sample-timing-accurate MIDI data in real-time from the plugin into a DAW track - and the same for audio tracks - then further processing on the Realtrack and MIDI BIAB track data could be done in the DAW and no dragging would be required after each regenerate.
Yes see those videos you can send each midi channel from the plugin to a different track with a different virtual instrument.
You can send direct input RealTracks through Amplitube or Guitar Rig, you can have a Biab Plugin on each track and generate up 7 MultiRiffs in each and play them all along with the DAW until you find the ones that fit best.


Clearly a tighter integration into a DAW like Cubase depends on the DAW developers being open to liaison and API support of the necessary technical requirements. Sometimes this is already supported in some sense - like for example the DOM object model in Ableton for Max4Live programming and support for python scripts for 3rd Pty hardware in Ableton . But I have no idea how much similar support is available nowadays in Cubase, Logic or PT or other DAWs.
Yea like ARA, maybe that will be implemented in the plugin down the track

Am I right in thinking Reaper is quite powerful in this regard ? i've given reaper a go a few times over the years - but my first impressions GUI wise have always somehow turned me off.
There are so many addons and themes to get Reaper looking and working like Cubase.

I just think ultimately that the true potential of BIAB technology and I.P. - even with a Mac plugin would only be realised if the tech were embedded at a deeper level into one's DAW.

And I don't thing RealBand is ever going to be it - or of any significance.
RealBand, I remember that.


As to others mentions of old classic software and companies being swallowed up by giants - whether Gibston ( big fails there sadly ) - and its happened in part for Avid - and even Yamaha - yes this is indeed true. Track records for corporate swallow ups are often dismal. Take Compaq or DEC computers for example but HP!!

But that was why I specifically mentioned Steinberg and Line6 which were and remain - very successful examples of legendary companies being handled and managed and supported and nurtured by Yamaha rather well. Although I wish Yamaha would include more of the Cubase sequencer functionality ( or Cubasis ) in future Yamaha workstations. It would be so helpful it the transition from initial rough idea music material in a workstation were able to make it seamlessly into a DAW - and maybe even ( Wirth caveats ) - to and fro.

With the power of modern ARM chips this becomes much more doable than ever in the past.
I don't think you will be disappointed with the plugin when the Mac version is release (soon hopefully), as it's come a long way since the initial Win release.
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-MIDI SuperTracks Set 29: More Organ, Piano & Accordion

Xtra Styles PAK 7 for Band-in-a-Box® for Windows Special Extended!

Customers LOVE the new Xtra Styles PAK 7 for Band-in-a-Box® 2019, so why would we end our special so soon?

The answer: We're not going to! We've extended our Xtra Styles PAK special to October 15th - so there's still time to add 164 new RealStyles to your collection for just $29!

In fact, we've put all of our earlier Xtra Styles PAKs (1-6) on sale for just $29 each until October 15th, and always offer specific genre for just $15 each.

For more information and to listen to demos, click here!

Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Mac New Features Video!

Want to learn all about the new features in our just-released Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Mac? Check out our latest video:
Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Mac®! New! All 64 bit program, VST/AU 64 bit plugin, 202 RealTracks & more!

Jump to the feature you'd like to learn about the most by choosing from the table of contents, listed in the video description, or here.

Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Mac - Upgrade Today and Save Up To 50%!

Just released: Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Mac with 64+ new features (64-bit!!!!), 202 New RealTracks, 40 Unreleased RealTracks, 10 "Low Man" and Re-amped "12-Key" Metal/Thrash Electric Guitar RealTracks, "Look Ma! More MIDI!" – 30 MIDI Styles, 12 new MIDI SuperTracks, 240 new Instrumental Studies, 18 new Artist Performances, and a new Xtra Styles PAK 7!

We're having a SALE on Band-in-a-Box® 2019 Upgrade purchases until October 15, 2019 - save UP TO 50% when you purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Mac Upgrade!

We've packed our Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK with some amazing Add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is automatically included with most Band-in-a-Box® for Mac 2019 packages, but for more even more Add-ons (including 40 Unreleased RealTracks) upgrade it to the 2019 49-PAK for only $49. You can see the full lists of items in each package, and listen to demos here.

Check out our packages page for all the purchase options available, or visit this discussion on our Band-in-a-Box® for Mac forum.

Video - 202 NEW RealTracks for Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Mac!

With the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Mac we also released 202 NEW RealTracks (in Sets 301-328)!

Listen to all the individual demos here, or watch our Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Mac - 202 New RealTracks Overview Video here

Get all 202 new RealTracks when you purchase any Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Mac UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition, or the PlusPAK upgrade, on sale until October 15th!

Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Mac - 49 Requests Fulfilled!

49 of your Problems solved? List of 49 Requests fulfilled in Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Mac.

With Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Mac there are a lot of new features, 202 RealTracks, and more. We get ideas for the new features and new RealTracks from our users. There are several sources, our Wishlist and general forum, support phone calls, trade shows, etc. In most cases, customers are not describing a new feature – they are describing a problem they have that they would like to have solved.

Here is a list of our features and additions in Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Mac, presented from a unique perspective. It is from this customer list of "problems they would like solved." These are not exact quotes, they are paraphrased from our discussions with our customers. They explain what problems and requests they discussed with us, that resulted in the various new features and RealTracks. Hopefully this answers the question "Why did you add this feature/content?"

So, without further ado, here are the 49 requests/problems that we (hopefully) have solved with the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2019. We hope that many of them are relevant to you as well. And please keep suggesting new ones, we appreciate that.

Q. Almost all of my music apps are 64 bit, as is my Mac OS. But Band-in-a-Box® is 32 bit. And Apple's next OS, Catalina 10.15 is set to be released in October 2019 (the beta is available now), and that won't even run 32-bit apps! Can you make a 64 bit version?
A. Yes, we’ve done this with Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Mac. The app is 64 bit and the executable name is still Band-in-a-Box®.app (if you have an older 32-bit version it will get automatically renamed during the install to Band-in-a-Box®-32bit.app ).

Q. I have 64 bit plugins that I want to use with Band-in-a-Box®. But they only work with 64 bit apps. Can I use them with Band-in-a-Box® 2019, without having to use any special software for this?
A. Yes, 64 bit Plugins work natively with the 64 bit version of Band-in-a-Box® 2019. This means you can use your 64 bit plugins, including ones that use huge amounts of memory (more than 2GB).

Q. Does Band-in-a-Box® 2019 work on the latest OS, Catalina 10.15, as that has many changes?
A. Yes, Band-in-a-Box® 2019 is 64-bit and runs great on Catalina (and older OS's down to and including 10.6.8 Snow Leopard)

Q. I like Snow Leopard as an OS (10.6.8), will Band-in-a-Box® 2019 still run on that with all features working?
A. Yes, Band-in-a-Box® 2019 64 bit version runs great on older OS's including Snow Leopard, and has identical features and operation to the newer OS's

See the full list here!

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